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Xarbala posted:To be fair, all those extra movement options raises the skill ceiling really high for dumb idiot casuals like myself. I've never gotten more hate mail in any game than Titanfall 2 because I spent every generation using nothing but A-Wall and the Devotion. No amount of parkour beats a shield and a death ray.
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What the hell even is CoD campaigns after Titanfall 2? I'm playing through Blops 3 campaign I guess.
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Nov 6, 2018 16:05
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TF2 is / was so good. Not only possibly the best MP of any shooter I played (Maybe Quake 3 is tied) but the best SP of any first person shooter by far.
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Nov 6, 2018 18:18
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The movement tricks in Titanfall 2 aren't very hard. A couple of hours in custom games practicing and I was good to go. Don't get me wrong, I'm not an expert/great at it but I can slide-hop around and Grapple slingshot myself well enough to get position on folks.
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Nov 6, 2018 18:59
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I think the jaded, hyper-reactive instant gratification oriented gamer market these days was ready to trash the game before it even came out and was never going to give the single player mode a real shot after the TF1. Which is a drat shame because I genuinely enjoyed A Boy and His Bot. The time jumper level felt like something right out of Half Life and, again, was focused on letting you feel like the baddest, scariest thing on two meat-legs around.
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Nov 6, 2018 19:50
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That level was so sick. I want respawn to make a nightcrawler game. Heck, a Spiderman game from them would probably rule too, given how good movement feels in this. Haven't played the new PS4 Spidey game but apparently the web swinging is really simplified and basically just automatically works for you. I want more skill based movement systems dammit.
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Nov 6, 2018 20:05
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On the whole movement skill thing, I gotta ask you guys: How much of the general gaming population do you think can land a shock combo without standing still from UT? TF2 was doomed from the start.
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Nov 6, 2018 20:28
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I probably couldn't honestly, my aim blows. Edit: More of a flack cannon man myself Dr. Red Ranger fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Nov 6, 2018 |
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Nov 6, 2018 20:46
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Oh hey, guys also the Anti Titan Sentry Turret is good! Just save 3 up for late match and find a battle where 2 friendly titans are losing against 4 enemies, smack all three down on a rooftop and watch your titan meter and killcount skyrocket I got 45 points in under 10 seconds last night
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Nov 6, 2018 21:43
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TF2 campaign should be counted among the greats. That honor may be stolen just for releasing during the turn to multiplayer-focused games and shooters.
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Nov 6, 2018 21:45
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Yeah that's the best single player campaign I've ever played in a shooter hands down.
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Nov 6, 2018 22:51
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Zigmidge posted:On the whole movement skill thing, I gotta ask you guys: How much of the general gaming population do you think can land a shock combo without standing still from UT? I can't do that, but then I haven't played much UT. You guys seriously overstimate the skill requirement for multiplayer TF2.
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Nov 6, 2018 22:58
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And you underestimate how bad people are at video games. This is a world where 360 no scope is considered a trick shot.
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Nov 6, 2018 23:03
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Also even when arena shooters were the king of the world in terms of online multiplayer 99% of players couldn't do that stuff either. People played it because a lot of people played it and it was fun even if you sucked
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Condoleezza Nice! posted:
I don't think so, I know some real decent players that don't know how to employ slidehopping.
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Nov 6, 2018 23:04
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Zigmidge posted:And you underestimate how bad people are at video games. ???? It is??
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Nov 6, 2018 23:08
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Condoleezza Nice! posted:You guys seriously overstimate the skill requirement for multiplayer TF2. What would you consider higher skill than Titanfall 2? I honestly can't think of a game that plays as quick as TF2 that has so much depth due to it's options and movement. Quake Champions maybe? I haven't played it so I can't say.
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Nov 7, 2018 05:06
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I think TF2 is the best shooter out there, but tbh I don't think it really has a higher bar for entry than any other popular shooter or a higher skill ceiling either. I don't get why people in this thread think that. Look at any popular shooter and there are people that are at a level that is way beyond any of us. And for the record it's good that the bar for entry isn't too high in TF2. It's a good game that tries to let everyone have fun.
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A game with a high skill ceiling doesn't bar anyone from entry, it only allows for players to get a lot better. And TF2 is definitely one of those games where a good player will just bodybag anyone that isn't that skilled. This is why Matchmaking and rankings are a thing now.
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Nov 7, 2018 07:17
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That's every shooter dude.
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Nov 7, 2018 07:29
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Not quite because Titanfall adds verticality that most shooters lack, unique movement options to deal with it all at a speed that most shooters don't run at. In a lot of shooters the player movement has two speeds, no momentum and isn't variable. This is where the depth of Titanfall comes from.
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Zigmidge posted:On the whole movement skill thing, I gotta ask you guys: How much of the general gaming population do you think can land a shock combo without standing still from UT? I still play Unreal and UT99 from time to time and can do (at 10-15m max while jumping/dodging) but with a controller hell no and my aim with a controller is quite decent. Also, you'd be surprised the amount of people that didn't know the shock combo back in the days.
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Nov 7, 2018 10:04
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Making me wanna go play UT and Q3, guys...
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Yeah you guys are confusing a high skill ceiling with ease of play. The game is just as easy to get into as any other game. My 13 year old nephew only has played COD like games and jumped in easy. He just needed to be exposed to the game and give it a chance. He says the real problem which is he just forgot about the game,it got buried and was scared to jump in fearing it was dead or harder than it is. The game is very much alive and playable and not hard and people need to spread that word instead of potentially scaring people off with the false fears.
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Nov 7, 2018 12:21
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Yeah, for all of its movement options, TF2 is still primarily a hitscan game, unlike, say, arena shooters and Tribes.
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Nov 7, 2018 15:41
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I keep seeing this thread have 20 or so new posts. Is anyone playing regularly on PS4? I;d love to get into this game again.
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Nov 7, 2018 15:45
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We're goons we don't play the games we talk about are you high
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Nov 7, 2018 16:49
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I play often. Killed 8 titans with Tone in one match last night. Suck it nerds.
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I still play sporadically as Kithyen on Ps4. I haven't had to wait longer than 30 seconds to a minute for games regardless of time of day.
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Add HAIL-KING-BEAR on PS4. I'll re-install TF2 tonight.
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bear is driving! posted:Add HAIL-KING-BEAR on PS4. I'll re-install TF2 tonight. I'm sure you have it already but if not I noticed there's a banner in the game of Bear Riding Tiny Tricycle Up Ramp that you definitely should aspire to given your proclivities.
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RBX posted:Yeah you guys are confusing a high skill ceiling with ease of play. The game is just as easy to get into as any other game. My 13 year old nephew only has played COD like games and jumped in easy. He just needed to be exposed to the game and give it a chance. He says the real problem which is he just forgot about the game,it got buried and was scared to jump in fearing it was dead or harder than it is. The game is very much alive and playable and not hard and people need to spread that word instead of potentially scaring people off with the false fears. 
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Nov 7, 2018 22:15
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Skill Floor and Skill Ceiling are distinct, yes, and yet I still don't think Tf2's Skill Floor is all that accessible.
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I think there are quite a few things that really compound skill gaps. I don't think its hard to pick up, but I do think you will get dominated to the point where you learn very little.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Okay, try this loadout. Start watching the minimap for crowds of peons and just throw C4 at them, instant death. C4 and Thunderbolt combo also works on Reapers. Also, if you decide to take A-Wall and see a couple Reapers throw that wall down and tear them to shreds with the R97. Hey BP, just posting that I tried the R97+A-wall combo and someone got legit mad at me because after a match he ended on my team and started to scream at his mic. I always used SMGs with stim or grappling hook but drat, is my new favourite combo.
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Nov 7, 2018 22:37
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Zigmidge posted:And you underestimate how bad people are at video games. wtf does this even mean
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Is it too on the nose for you?
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If you guys see DoctorCatHaver on pissfore give me a yell and I'll be all over another run at TF2.
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Zigmidge posted:Is it too on the nose for you? It really isn't, it's the opposite.
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