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pookel posted:Beto is the only white male politician I have ever seen black women get genuinely excited about on the internet. Sure, black women reliably vote for Democratic candidates no matter who the party runs, but usually that involves less enthusiasm and more pragmatism. Usually when some "woke" white politician steps into racial politics, he gets polite approval mixed with eyerolls, distrust, and critique of the white savior mentality (which is a completely fair assessment for most of them!). Not Beto though. He wrote a column for Essence magazine about the maternal mortality rate for black women! He got Beyonce plugging his campaign! He has worked hard to earn that trust. Oh Beto could do the job. But it isn't just about him. Representation matters too and it's important that the Democratic Party ticket not be two white dudes. Like, demographically speaking Beto is like voting for a better-looking, harder-working version of myself. I'd love to vote for Beto someday. But if it's a two person ticket I don't want two white guys on the ticket even if one is Bernie and the other is Beto.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Oh Beto could do the job. But it isn't just about him. Representation matters too and it's important that the Democratic Party ticket not be two white dudes. Kamala/Beto 2020
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Rinkles posted:That early concession was a weird choice I thought it was weird at the time and brought up that the margin was less than 80k votes when he started his speech. Decorum strikes again
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big boi posted:Kamala/Beto 2020 I'm not sure the AG who refused to prosecute Mnuchin for his role in the '08 financial collapse is the nominee we need. (also draconian truancy laws, shittiness on trans issues, etc etc)
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Oh Beto could do the job. But it isn't just about him. Representation matters too and it's important that the Democratic Party ticket not be two white dudes. His running mate would 100% have to be someone like Kamala Harris though.
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pookel posted:Beto is the only white male politician I have ever seen black women get genuinely excited about on the internet. Sure, black women reliably vote for Democratic candidates no matter who the party runs, but usually that involves less enthusiasm and more pragmatism. Usually when some "woke" white politician steps into racial politics, he gets polite approval mixed with eyerolls, distrust, and critique of the white savior mentality (which is a completely fair assessment for most of them!). Not Beto though. He wrote a column for Essence magazine about the maternal mortality rate for black women! He got Beyonce plugging his campaign! He has worked hard to earn that trust. He has been called "white Obama" by quite a few people and I literally think a huge part of it is that he actually reminds people of Barack Obama in the way he looks and speaks.
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I think it's gonna be Gillibrand that ends up leading the ticket, if for nothing else that she could maybe pull white women away from Trump
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Rabble posted:I thought it was weird at the time and brought up that the margin was less than 80k votes when he started his speech. Decorum strikes again Conceding is not legally binding.
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Not enough Amy Klobachar president talk. She won by 20 points in a purple state. Massively popular even in Trumpist areas.
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I really wanted one gently caress you to some people in my life with Beto or Gillum. Not getting that despite the positives is disappointing.
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Mahoning posted:He has been called "white Obama" by quite a few people and I literally think a huge part of it is that he actually reminds people of Barack Obama in the way he looks and speaks. They both kind of look like gangly kids I guess
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Conceding is not legally binding. No you see all we have to do is get a piece of paper in front of the president that reads "I retroactively concede the election." Bing bang boom, easy as pie!
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Majorian posted:I'm not sure the AG who refused to prosecute Mnuchin for his role in the '08 financial collapse is the nominee we need. for me harris is at the bottom of the 'acceptable / people i would not be gritting my teeth voting for' tiers she's not biden/booker, but she's definitely not gillibrand /
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Nov 7, 2018 19:42
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2020 Bernie/Barbara Lee. But who am I kidding, it'll be Warren and some gigantic waste like Tim Kaine lmao
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Mahoning posted:He has been called "white Obama" by quite a few people and I literally think a huge part of it is that he actually reminds people of Barack Obama in the way he looks and speaks.
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Carlosologist posted:I think it's gonna be Gillibrand that ends up leading the ticket, if for nothing else that she could maybe pull white women away from Trump gillibrand is very good sanders is better, but gillibrand is very good she's currently either my #2 or #3 pick out of the prominent likely candidates, depending on whether Warren can shore up her campaigning chops (Warren is a great Senator, and would be a great Cabinet member, but those aren't all the qualifications we want in a nominee)
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mcmagic posted:Not enough Amy Klobachar president talk. She won by 20 points in a purple state. Massively popular even in Trumpist areas. I’ve been saying for years that she would win any kind of presidential race. She is comically electable in Minnesota. She is not progressive, more center left/liberal and gets tons of legislation passed. I don’t really want her to run but she’d probably win if she did. E: also, lol at calling Minnesota Purple. RembrandtQEinstein fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Nov 7, 2018 |
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Carlosologist posted:I think it's gonna be Gillibrand that ends up leading the ticket, if for nothing else that she could maybe pull white women away from Trump Same, but I wonder if her time as a member of the Blue Dog caucus is going to help or hurt her when people start paying attention.
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mcmagic posted:Not enough Amy Klobachar president talk. She won by 20 points in a purple state. Massively popular even in Trumpist areas.
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Failed Imagineer posted:2020 Bernie/Barbara Lee. Tim Kaine was to shore up Virginia, but at this point, Virginia doesn't need shoring up. Pander posted:2020 Waters/Beto I loving wish But to be honest, there is an entire thread about the 2020 primaries, we should probably take a lot of this chat over there
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Edmund Lava posted:Same, but I wonder if her time as a member of the Blue Dog caucus is going to help or hurt her when people start paying attention. No one who would abide a second Trump term will care. Gillebrand's big challenge will be avoiding the Hillary 2.0 branding, that Trump will likely force on her. "Hillary didn't beat me, so they are sending her successor to try".
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mcmagic posted:Not enough Amy Klobachar president talk. She won by 20 points in a purple state. Massively popular even in Trumpist areas. Not sure I'd call Minnesota a purple state. We're two state senate seats off a DFL trifecta, all of our other statewide elections went D, and we haven't gone red for president in ages. We're no California, but we're still solidly blue. 20 points is quite impressive even with that in mind, though.
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Pander posted:2020 Waters/Beto How old is Maxine.
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Edmund Lava posted:Same, but I wonder if her time as a member of the Blue Dog caucus is going to help or hurt her when people start paying attention. she swung hard to the left the moment she was no longer the House member for a pretty purple district best case scenario: she actually believes in left things but had to pretend she didn't because her constituents were bad worst case scenario: she's a soulless triangulator with no conviction, which isn't actually completely terrible in a leftward-moving Democratic Party but is definitely the stance some people are going to take medium scenario: she actually believed her less-great positions but has genuinely come around on them and is now good
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How old is Maxine. very
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Edmund Lava posted:Same, but I wonder if her time as a member of the Blue Dog caucus is going to help or hurt her when people start paying attention. I mean, we only need to win back 3 out of the 4 following states: Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania I don't think the Blue Dog Caucus is a huge turnoff to voters in those states.
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Crows Turn Off posted:We do not need an 80 year old running for President. No Bernie please. Yeah, I don't want an 80 year old president. Not to be ageist, but male life expectancy tops out at 80-81. US President is not something you should be rolling the dice on.
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Pander posted:2020 Waters/Beto I mean, it'll never happen. But imagine the loving infarction Trump would have if Maxine beats him.
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TyrantWD posted:No one who would abide a second Trump term will care. Gillebrand's big challenge will be avoiding the Hillary 2.0 branding, that Trump will likely force on her. "Hillary didn't beat me, so they are sending her successor to try". If a woman is the nominee, I think this is going to happen regardless.
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Imagine a Bernie/Waters ticket with Pelosi as Speaker lol. Gonna get real deep in the line of succession.
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Mahoning posted:I mean, we only need to win back 3 out of the 4 following states: Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania plus she's been a Good Dem for 10 years 10 years ain't nothing (and even as a Bad Dem she had some pretty progressive positions on a bunch of things for the time) Shimrra Jamaane posted:Imagine a Bernie/Waters ticket with Pelosi as Speaker lol. Gonna get real deep in the line of succession. Orrin Hatch smiles. At long last, his master plan is nearly complete.
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mcmagic posted:Not enough Amy Klobachar president talk. She won by 20 points in a purple state. Massively popular even in Trumpist areas. Klobuchar/Beto 2020
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:I’ve been saying for years that she would win any kind of presidential race. She is comically electable in Minnesota. She is not progressive, more center left/liberal and gets tons of legislation passed. Klobuchar/Beto? That would work I think. I'd picture that ticket pulling a ton of swing state voters not many others could. That said, it's literally the day after the midterms so nothing said is worth too much merit.
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