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Sky Shadowing posted:More likely they're hoping to burn all the work Mueller did so the Dems have to start all over again and it takes until the next election to determine anything. I'm pretty sure Mueller has access to copying technology.
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Sky Shadowing posted:More likely they're hoping to burn all the work Mueller did so the Dems have to start all over again and it takes until the next election to determine anything.
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Z. Autobahn posted:Do you guys seriously think Mueller has not considered this scenario and doesn't have a plan for it? yeah seriously, the guy could have been shuttled off so many times before.
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Tibalt posted:But the key states will probably be some combination of NH (4), NM (5), NV (6), IA (6), CO (9), WI (10), IN (11), VA (13), NC (15), MI (16), OH (18), PA (20), & FL (29). I would suggest TX (38) and GA (16) as states that potentially get talked about, but that's "Death of the Republican Party" talk. In reality, only 5 of these states should actually 'matter' on election night - Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina & Michigan. This list might be pretty different in 2 years, but those would be your 'core' swing states. FL, PA, and OH have been the swing state trifecta for 20 years now, while North Carolina was a pick-up by Obama and Michigan was a pick-up by Trump. That's all there really is to say about the 2020 presidential election until we get closer, though. Wisconsin is much more important than Ohio. If Dems take back Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania while losing Ohio (and don't lose any Clinton states) they win and that's their easiest path to the White House.
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Sky Shadowing posted:More likely they're hoping to burn all the work Mueller did so the Dems have to start all over again and it takes until the next election to determine anything. it is not likely now
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Rex-Goliath posted:I’ve been saying that dems gaining subpoena power is the most important outcome of the election and this is why. Trump is shook but it's not like Trump can't just order people to ignore subpoenas
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evilweasel posted:great, pitch that case to the man currently doing the obstruction. oh, he didn't approve you to bring charges? Last time that happened we got Deep Throat though, so wooo speedrun!
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Chilichimp posted:Nah, they'll assign him to head the CFPB via the vacancies act, since he won't resign. Didn't he already offer to resign at least once before?
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eke out posted:the regulation matters, we know this because Matthew Whitaker is already on record speculating how you kill the probe without violating that regulation this is 100% why he was chosen, just like Brett "Presidents can't be prosecuted" Kavanaugh
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(Trump hangs up phone after firing Mueller) (Opens drawer to get a tootsie roll for a job well done) (Instead he finds a tape recorder) Mueller: “Hello, Donald.” (Saw theme starts playing)
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GreyjoyBastard posted:it is not likely now This depends on what you think John Roberts is, at his core.
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So Trump did this to replace sessions with someone to end Mueller's investigation before the new house is sworn in, right?
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mdemone posted:I fully loving expect a 5pm drop about subpoenas or indictments.  lets fuckin hope so don jr first, then roger stone
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Bottom Liner posted:You think Mueller is stupid enough to not have a bunch of failsafes? Like, not even high tech spy stuff, just the whole idea republicans can come physically burn the one paper muller wrote on or something is really funny. Nothing works like that. 3rd graders write their story about sonic the hedgehog in redundantly backed up docs in 2018.
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Spaced God posted:So Trump did this to replace sessions with someone to end Mueller's investigation before the new house is sworn in, right? Not how that works
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DLC Inc posted:yeah seriously, the guy could have been shuttled off so many times before. Just because it can be planned for doesn’t mean it can be 100% mitigated. Classified or privileged information is an easy example of something that runs real risks up to criminal charges if it was leaked, even to Congress.
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mdemone posted:I fully loving expect a 5pm drop about subpoenas or indictments. This would make for one of the craziest 24 hours I could imagine in politics.
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mdemone posted:This depends on what you think John Roberts is, at his core. John Roberts would think far enough ahead to consider if this would prevent loving with future Democratic presidents.
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Trump is shook as hell and he is lashing out because he hates Sessions. I doubt he's thought more past attempting to change the news cycle from the Dem wave.
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https://twitter.com/rachelweinerwp/status/1060266854571225089 lol can't wait to see what this ethics waiver looks like
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brockan posted:Didn't he already offer to resign at least once before? They tried to resign him like 3-4 months ago, don't you remember? One day, the white house said "we've accepted the resignation of Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein", and then Rod Rosenstein was like "the hell you have", and the white house had to eat crow because Kelly was sure that little TWERP got the message, but the little twerp just said "I understand" and had no intention of providing that resignation letter.
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Nov 7, 2018 21:27
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Spaced God posted:So Trump did this to replace sessions with someone to end Mueller's investigation before the new house is sworn in, right? Yes. Hell, the House could appoint him special prosecutor, giving the DOJ a reason to take him off the case... and then fire him. What do they care they're leaving anyway
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Demon Of The Fall posted:Trump is shook as hell and he is lashing out because he hates Sessions. I doubt he's thought more past attempting to change the news cycle from the Dem wave. This is a rare time that him trying to change the conversation feels like it backfired. It seems to just stress that he's shook and the dem wave is scaring him.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Like, not even high tech spy stuff, just the whole idea republicans can come physically burn the one paper muller wrote on or something is really funny. Nothing works like that. 3rd graders write their story about sonic the hedgehog in redundantly backed up docs in 2018. Recall that Trump appears to think Hillary physically poured bleach on a piece of server hardware to delete emails
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corn in the bible posted:Yes. i don't believe they can do this
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Can someone explain how funds/property previously seized by the special council is used at a government level? Does the special council have any access to Manafort's seized assets for self-funding or is it something that just becomes property of the government?
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eke out posted:https://twitter.com/rachelweinerwp/status/1060266854571225089 well it turns out publicly musing about strangling an independent organization might not make you fit to 9versee it so you have to recuse...
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eke out posted:https://twitter.com/rachelweinerwp/status/1060266854571225089 there is plenty of ethics poo poo that might force him to recuse himself if the rage is loud enough. plus there are still some sane GOP Ghouls in the senate during the lame duck.
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Sky Shadowing posted:More likely they're hoping to burn all the work Mueller did so the Dems have to start all over again and it takes until the next election to determine anything. Then you subpoena the conservative majority and they can't rule on something that effects themselves 
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am I wrong that gillum winning handily in the polls and then underperforming bill nelson (!) is some bradley effect poo poo
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Z. Autobahn posted:Do you guys seriously think Mueller has not considered this scenario and doesn't have a plan for it? I mean, there's always the chance that he's a Good Republican Soldier and was just waiting for an opportunity to get his God-King off the hook without breaking some personal moral code. You'd have to be an idiot to bet on that chance, but as they say in the vernacular, "lol we live in hellworld."
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Bread Set Jettison posted:This is a rare time that him trying to change the conversation feels like it backfired. It seems to just stress that he's shook and the dem wave is scaring him. what does it matter, we are literally as far away from an election that this could affect as we possibly could be short of him doing this at midnight last night
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Pollyanna posted:Wait. Is this a good or bad thing? Mostly really loving stupid, especially now that the Democrats are taking the House, because at this point any attempt to bury what Mueller is investigating is doomed to fail hilariously.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:sane GOP Ghouls saner maybe
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Pollyanna posted:Wait. Is this a good or bad thing?
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SousaphoneColossus posted:am I wrong that gillum winning handily in the polls and then underperforming bill nelson (!) is some bradley effect poo poo nelson was also not part of an fbi corruption investigation
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Sky Shadowing posted:More likely they're hoping to burn all the work Mueller did so the Dems have to start all over again and it takes until the next election to determine anything.. Trump could just burn all of Mueller's records and documents. Just hiding a copy somewhere won't work. You can't use mystery secret copies in a court. How if at all could Mueller protect his actual papers? Just starting back up in January is not enough if he has lost all the evidence he has of crimes. Could he pass it off to New York State prospecutors as part of a joint investigation.or something? Diogines fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Nov 7, 2018 |
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