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Z. Autobahn posted:I'm seeing people tweeting about Rosenstein also being removed? Anyone confirm this? They didn't fire him but there's not much reason to, since Rosenstein was only in charge due to Sessions being recused. As soon as an AG shows up who doesn't recuse himself Rosenstein goes back to just being the deputy
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corn in the bible posted:They didn't fire him but there's not much reason to, since Rosenstein was only in charge due to Sessions being recused. As soon as an AG shows up who doesn't recuse himself Rosenstein goes back to just being the deputy sure but can't the acting dude fire mueller or "starve" him out.
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Charliegrs posted:So will there be a new Trump thread? sorry, buddy, you're locked in here with us
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:What actual papers? is it 1882? Do you think there is literally one page he writes on with a quill?
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Dick Trauma posted:Holy shitfuck. What is even going on.
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Diogines posted:A prosecutor won't be able to use any record in a court if they can't prove when and how it was made. Copies of documents Mueller hides on a USB in his boot can't be used in a court, or at least not easily. So all they have to do is say he can't access them any more and that's it?
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Diogines posted:A prosecution won't be able to use any record in a court if they can't prove when and how it was made. Copies of documents Mueller hides on a USB in his boot can't be used in a court, or at least not easily.
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Bottom Liner posted:You think Mueller is stupid enough to not have a bunch of failsafes? E: Also hit me up on twitter @HarikMCO if you're the guy I'm thinking of in orlando.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:sorry, buddy, you're locked in here with us  Seriously though, a divided house cannot stand. the left and the center need to work out their poo poo before 2020, and it mostly involves the center getting up and moving left. We unfortunately don't have a blue naked man to obliterate the rorschachs of our timeline. 
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eke out posted:okay so the answer to the VRA question is that Whitaker is a GS-15 that has served more than 90 days, making him eligible the hell are you doing posting actual useful information in here? especially now?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:sure but can't the acting dude fire mueller or "starve" him out. Oh. Yeah, obviously, if he wants to. But that doesn't mean that Rod Rosenstein gets to have a say in it anymore
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I am sure defeated, Trump-piss-soaked Republican Congressman Ryan Costello will now call for this.
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Diogines posted:A prosecutor won't be able to use any record in a court if they can't prove when and how it was made. Copies of documents Mueller hides on a USB in his boot can't be used in a court, or at least not easily. As far as I know DOJ officers could just recite all the stuff from memory and it could be admissible as evidence in court because they're DOJ officers.
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Tibalt posted:... what do you think happens to grand jury testimony and those sealed indictments if Mueller is fired? I would imagine delivered to the ranking Republican committee member, who then promptly loses it, only for the backup to be declared a fake and a Democratic plot to take over the country from its rightful Russian rulers.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:almost certainly not sufficiently for the president to clearly and flagrantly violate the explicit letter of the law and go "lol i dictator now" Where have you been the last two years? Trump will do what he wants and never face consequences for it, except possibly by losing reelection if Democrats can figure out how to campaign between now and 2020. This is dumb and infuriating but it also ultimately isn’t that important.
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Nucleic Acids posted:So all they have to do is say he can't access them any more and that's it? Tibalt posted:... what do you think happens to grand jury testimony and those sealed indictments if Mueller is fired?
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corn in the bible posted:They didn't fire him but there's not much reason to, since Rosenstein was only in charge due to Sessions being recused. As soon as an AG shows up who doesn't recuse himself Rosenstein goes back to just being the deputy Technically this appears to not be the case due to the "acting" but it may get ignored.
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Diogines posted:A prosecutor won't be able to use any record in a court if they can't prove when and how it was made. Copies of documents Mueller hides on a USB in his boot can't be used in a court, or at least not easily. I mean, he's the former head of the FBI with a bunch of ultra top people, at least one of them probably knows what a file hash is or something to verify some documents were unaltered.
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Sulphagnist posted:As far as I know DOJ officers could just recite all the stuff from memory and it could be admissible as evidence in court because they're DOJ officers.
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Diogines posted:Very possibly, yes? Grand Jury testimony, while sealed, is a court record and can't just be burned that easily.
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DandyLion posted:I would imagine delivered to the ranking Republican committee member, who then promptly loses it, only for the backup to be declared a fake and a Democratic plot to take over the country from its rightful Russian rulers. If we're talking about how the Republicans will just spin poo poo away, that is going to happen regardless of whether a Mueller report is published or not. It's also possible that there never was gonna be a Mueller report and the indictments and the prosecutions are the "report." Diogines posted:Possibly, but that is way too many documents for anyone to memorize The point was that DOJ officers get special dispensation and could, in fact, have an off-site backup to refer to and it would be totally fine.
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eke out posted:yeah things don't work the way you think Isn’t it because he’s appointed as ‘acting’ so he’s only filling in until someone who’s passed confirmation takes over?
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correction to previously quoted tweet: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1060271131406540803 (Mariotti's usually a good follow for this stuff, apologies for signs of hope) eviltastic fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Nov 7, 2018 |
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Literally the last piece of news I heard was Trump's conference where he was saying he had no plans to fire anyone and now this happens
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Tibalt posted:... what do you think happens to grand jury testimony and those sealed indictments if Mueller is fired? Some stooge takes over the investigation and either finishes unwinding it and burying the evidence or they turn it around and use it to investigate and discredit anti-trump accusers. No reason to assume they’ll be illegally leaked.
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Remember, if Mueller gets fired, there are plans for large scale same-day or next-day protests. Be prepared!
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Looks like we are gonna be testing my hypothesis that Mueller has a dead man’s switch.
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Lote posted:Looks like we are gonna be testing my hypothesis that Mueller has a dead man’s switch. It is entirely possible that Mueller can finish up his task by the end of the week. If there was anything coming down the pipe, this would likely force it out ASAP.
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squirrelzipper posted:Isn’t it because he’s appointed as ‘acting’ so he’s only filling in until someone who’s passed confirmation takes over? nah that's not it, i posted above. the VRA's provision for letting a GS-15 serve is obviously meant to let high ranking career civil servants fill in for the job. They just realized there's a good workaround because chiefs of staff and poo poo happen to also be GS-15s.
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Mr_Moose posted:Can someone explain how funds/property previously seized by the special council is used at a government level? That would lead to massive conflicts of interest, I'd think.
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On the books that’s a crime.
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