Hav posted:

His name is a shilling word!

colonelwest posted:

I'm losing track of this discussion. How many Skyrims is that?

I love when Citizens fetishize shear size over any consideration of how that space will be filled with actual gameplay content. If CIG's space city is as a big or bigger than a real city, then it must also have the same level of complexity and things to do in it.

zcrow posted:

In a world with spaceships that travel faster than the speed of light, AI, holograms and planets made entirely of manmade structures...

I'm the society that still uses 20th century vehicles. I am Skeuomorphism: The Game.

iospace posted:

So, someone at CIG should watch the masters produce a galaxy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz3nhCykZNw

Actual content starts 6 minutes in, but it's a lot about the galaxy and how the proc gen works in ED.

Dementropy posted:

The Titanic posted:

This is the magic of Chris Roberts.

His civilizations always seem to barely be hanging on with junky technology, but under the hood is something like gravity goo that harnesses the very power of gravity itself in a liquid form that pumps through the whole ship.

And instead of weaponizing something fun like gravity goo, you'll have "mass drivers" and "machine guns" and "lasers that shoot real slow".

And the problem is that while he can just do what most games like his do and say "duuude it's a game. It's all fake!" he yells instead "it's a realistic simulation where we are measuring the content of argon in the air and how it affects your breathing and your blood oxygen content that we painstakingly track because it's so real!"

At that point you need to criticize it because you can't have it both ways. You can't do a hyper realistic simulation except when you don't want to and "oh it's magic" except this, because it's "hyper realistic" but this over here is more "video game magic lol just roll with it bro!" but oh poo poo you need to wait 5 minutes for the next train to trundle in because "this is a virtual world that mirrors real life..."

The only thing stopping him from just going full on Rebel Galaxy or Beyond Good and Evil in space with flying monkeys and jet packs is his own weird need for realism; when the only reality is it causes him more harm than just hand waving it and not caring if your guy goes in space without a space suit.

In a nutshell, nobody pulled him aside and asked "is this reality of yours fun? Do we need to have it? Why?" and he's just went full sperg with nobody trying to stop him.


It's been a great several years.

Sectopod posted:

In case you were wondering what Ben Lesnick, developer is up to these days. In between all the hard remote work he's doing for CIG he still has time to post walls of text about the intricate political system of the WC universe.

https://www.wcnews.com/

The amount of time and energy he puts into his WC obsession still completely baffles me.

Deadguy2322 posted:

It just occurred to me that what B’Tak wants isn’t the BDSSE, he wants the BDSSSE, the Best drat Safe Space Sim Ever.

SoftNum posted:

to be completely fair Ben's WC obsession is probably his least dangerous / threatening obsession. it doesn't hurt anyone for him to buy WC translated into whatever language or spend a week writing a huge blog post nobody cares about.

The Titanic posted:

I like how people seem to think a company needs to never move past a single product.

I have news for you guys: unless your Chris Roberts and money rains from heaven, your company needs to remain solvent by constantly building new products people will buy. Upkeeping a years old product sure is nice, but it probably won't bring in the high dollar new sales.

I know it's hard to understand that in the time CIG is still working on the poo poo tier alpha of a single game, Frontier actually made 3 full product releases, with one of them attached to a rather large IP. That they focus anything at all on Elite is just kind of a nice thing they really don't have to do.

The only IP that may be interested in Star Citizen would be Scientology.

Frog Act posted:

so DayZ is entering official "beta" status after five years and with significantly less content than it had a few years ago, along with the most significant gamebreaking bugs still unfixed (like zombies clipping through doors and walls). the missing features aren't just promised stuff like guns, clothing, balanced loot, vehicles, weapon attachments, helicopters, or dynamic events, but also fundamental gameplay mechanics that are absolutely necessary for the game to be playable. these include systems like vaulting over waist high things (which if you've seen the map you'll know are literally every ten feet), bleeding and bandaging (apparently semi-functional sometimes but only bandageable when inflicted by bullets, zombies don't do it anymore), a functional UI, zombies in the same number as the mod (empty maps really gently caress up the game's flow) and, hilariously, limb breaking mechanics. this led to a hilarious exchange on the subreddit where someone made a post trying to remind people that they had "fixed the problem where small inclines, ladders, hills, and rocks randomly break your legs and so the system is working fine" until someone pointed out that they had fixed it by removing the ability to have limbs broken entirely

they "fixed" DayZ over five years by adding no content or systems and pilfering the engine for ARMA4, imo its a shameless a scam as Star Citizen

sharknado slashfic posted:

Did they stick with removing the ability to attack while backpedalling

e: Dammit I read this as 7 days to die, another broken game

The Titanic posted:

This is the magic of Chris Roberts.

His civilizations always seem to barely be hanging on with junky technology, but under the hood is something like gravity goo that harnesses the very power of gravity itself in a liquid form that pumps through the whole ship.

And instead of weaponizing something fun like gravity goo, you'll have "mass drivers" and "machine guns" and "lasers that shoot real slow".

And the problem is that while he can just do what most games like his do and say "duuude it's a game. It's all fake!" he yells instead "it's a realistic simulation where we are measuring the content of argon in the air and how it affects your breathing and your blood oxygen content that we painstakingly track because it's so real!"

At that point you need to criticize it because you can't have it both ways. You can't do a hyper realistic simulation except when you don't want to and "oh it's magic" except this, because it's "hyper realistic" but this over here is more "video game magic lol just roll with it bro!" but oh poo poo you need to wait 5 minutes for the next train to trundle in because "this is a virtual world that mirrors real life..."

The only thing stopping him from just going full on Rebel Galaxy or Beyond Good and Evil in space with flying monkeys and jet packs is his own weird need for realism; when the only reality is it causes him more harm than just hand waving it and not caring if your guy goes in space without a space suit.

In a nutshell, nobody pulled him aside and asked "is this reality of yours fun? Do we need to have it? Why?" and he's just went full sperg with nobody trying to stop him.


It's been a great several years.

Hav posted:

The v1 planet rendering is literally smoke and mirrors.

Edit: ^^^ don’t get me started on gas mix in a 1/6th scale universe.

Lack of Gravitas posted:

Hello friends, does anyone know about gas mixes in 1/6th scale universes? tia

starkebn posted:

I think I've found the perfect game that citizens can actually play and get what they want. I just saw the latest Robbaz video of him buying a PC and playing a game inside another game (and plenty of other madness) in 'my summer car' which he calls a Finland simulator.

Here's the whole playlist, which is pure gold, but watch the latest video to see what I mean.

My Summer Car: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLo1nDt_-WWnUsdns8zTgF7OuTJ5r0gEsr

some examples posted:

Added wasps, also note that player has a wasp sting allergy
Store is now open from 10 to 20, and both are closed on Sunday
Added Saturday night "dance" and related fist fight mechanics
Decreased possibility of AI car veering off to oncoming lane towards Player
Dead moose can be now chopped into meat chunks with Axe
Added electricity bills, will spawn at home mail box
Not using seatbelts is now traffic infraction
Sleeping with cigarette can start a fire
Added possible destructive house fire
Added visible smoke before Player's house bursts into flames
Player can now drown when too drunk
Dumping septic waste into ground is now a felony, any fines will be appear at home mail box
You can now drink from jail cell WC bowl
Shortened the refueling distance from the pumps

The Titanic posted:

This is the magic of Chris Roberts.

His civilizations always seem to barely be hanging on with junky technology, but under the hood is something like gravity goo that harnesses the very power of gravity itself in a liquid form that pumps through the whole ship.

And instead of weaponizing something fun like gravity goo, you'll have "mass drivers" and "machine guns" and "lasers that shoot real slow".

And the problem is that while he can just do what most games like his do and say "duuude it's a game. It's all fake!" he yells instead "it's a realistic simulation where we are measuring the content of argon in the air and how it affects your breathing and your blood oxygen content that we painstakingly track because it's so real!"

At that point you need to criticize it because you can't have it both ways. You can't do a hyper realistic simulation except when you don't want to and "oh it's magic" except this, because it's "hyper realistic" but this over here is more "video game magic lol just roll with it bro!" but oh poo poo you need to wait 5 minutes for the next train to trundle in because "this is a virtual world that mirrors real life..."

The only thing stopping him from just going full on Rebel Galaxy or Beyond Good and Evil in space with flying monkeys and jet packs is his own weird need for realism; when the only reality is it causes him more harm than just hand waving it and not caring if your guy goes in space without a space suit.

In a nutshell, nobody pulled him aside and asked "is this reality of yours fun? Do we need to have it? Why?" and he's just went full sperg with nobody trying to stop him.


It's been a great several years.

quote:

The arrowing design of Eclipse allows the ship to stay stealthy. Inconspicuous twin engines are moulded into the shape of the hull, weapons are stored internally until they’re ready for use.

Dooguk posted:

Probably wears a Hi-Viz vest when he goes shopping.

Frog Act posted:

so DayZ is entering official "beta" status after five years and with significantly less content than it had a few years ago, along with the most significant gamebreaking bugs still unfixed (like zombies clipping through doors and walls). the missing features aren't just promised stuff like guns, clothing, balanced loot, vehicles, weapon attachments, helicopters, or dynamic events, but also fundamental gameplay mechanics that are absolutely necessary for the game to be playable. these include systems like vaulting over waist high things (which if you've seen the map you'll know are literally every ten feet), bleeding and bandaging (apparently semi-functional sometimes but only bandageable when inflicted by bullets, zombies don't do it anymore), a functional UI, zombies in the same number as the mod (empty maps really gently caress up the game's flow) and, hilariously, limb breaking mechanics. this led to a hilarious exchange on the subreddit where someone made a post trying to remind people that they had "fixed the problem where small inclines, ladders, hills, and rocks randomly break your legs and so the system is working fine" until someone pointed out that they had fixed it by removing the ability to have limbs broken entirely

they "fixed" DayZ over five years by adding no content or systems and pilfering the engine for ARMA4, imo its a shameless a scam as Star Citizen

colonelwest posted:

No, your engines would light you up like a Christmas tree compared to the cold background of space, and the game itself is supposed to track your EM emissions and have a passive scanning mechanic.

The Titanic posted:

I like how people seem to think a company needs to never move past a single product.

I have news for you guys: unless your Chris Roberts and money rains from heaven, your company needs to remain solvent by constantly building new products people will buy. Upkeeping a years old product sure is nice, but it probably won't bring in the high dollar new sales.

I know it's hard to understand that in the time CIG is still working on the poo poo tier alpha of a single game, Frontier actually made 3 full product releases, with one of them attached to a rather large IP. That they focus anything at all on Elite is just kind of a nice thing they really don't have to do.

The only IP that may be interested in Star Citizen would be Scientology.

Tnuctip posted:

It means the shadow of the bear in the full moon.

mrking posted:

Who's ready to wait for the next star citizer train?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-06/investigators-visit-runaway-bhp-iron-ore-train-derailment-site/10469802

Aqua Seafoam Shame posted:

Seriously, Chris deserves from credit for pulling this off. 3 years ago if you said that the cultists would have been jumping for joy over maybe a system or two at launch, you would have been laughed out of the building. But here we are, and CR has manipulated them to the point that this is happening. That presentation at the end of CitCon sealed the deal. He told them the game was already released and they praised him for it.

I suspect Ortwin's hand in getting this done. CR isn't that clever, and scammy moneymen know how to sell'em snake oil.

Thief taxxe:

Scruffpuff posted:

It's almost as if - and please bear with me here, I might be out of line - but it's almost as if Chris, and by extension CIG, did not actually sit down and decide what this game was supposed to be before designing and selling high-fidelity art assets, and because of that now, just maybe, and this is just me thinking out loud, but maybe they're making it up as they go along.