|
I am so glad that every aspect of my day to day life rests in the hands of a bunch of extremely old people.
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:32
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 29, 2024 10:50 |
|
|
My grandfather fell at 90 years old and despite being in pretty great health all of his life was never the same. Turned out he got a blood clot in his leg that eventually caused a stroke or aneurism which slowly killed him over a year or so.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:32
|
|
|
TulliusCicero posted:My grandmother was that age and had a massive stroke. First day doctors told us she may never wake up from a coma, and they showed us a CT scan where it looked like some severe damage to areas of the brain. Old people tend to die from these injuries only when they don't have an active life and just sit around and wait for death. I have always said that "if you stop moving, you die" and RGB is a loving immortal goddess in compared to her age group.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:32
|
|
"
|
Get hosed Handel https://mobile.twitter.com/karenhandel/status/1060519654756630529
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:32
|
|
|
corn in the bible posted:
No, they'll just slowly shred the reasonable burden test
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:34
|
|
|
Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Get hosed Handel I enjoy that this is one of the seats that Trump enjoyed bragging about winning a year ago. This is so good.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:34
|
|
|
I knew hope couldn't last for long. gently caress everything.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:34
|
|
|
Munkeymon posted:No, they'll just slowly shred the reasonable burden test Not a frozen chance in hell so long as they want to preserve 2nd amendment rights. They'll have to just reverse or wait for another case and erode it. Undue burden is the conservative silver bullet judicially.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:35
|
|
|
My understanding is that when old people "fall and break their hip", it really means their hip breaks on its own just because that joint is so drat fragile and osteoporotic at that age and can't hold up their weight anymore, and then they fall. Broken ribs from actually falling are kind of a different thing.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:35
|
|
|
Gripweed posted:One fun thing I'm expecting is the return of obscenity laws. A lot of states still have them on the books, but former Supreme Court decisions have made them somewhat unenforceable. this kind of fatalistic fan fiction is pretty unhelpful and it's not really representative of conservative judicial priorities, either. sweeping restrictions on speech aren't even at the bottom of the list right now
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:35
|
|
|
terrorist ambulance posted:This kind of poo poo really is a good example of the creeping, corrupting effect that violent culture has on people's thinking. The fact this guy thinks for a second that's plausible or realistic is the direct effect of him having watched every loving stupid action movie made in the last 15 years. This is what teachers are mandated to teach 3rd graders in Florida. Basically zerg rush.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:37
|
|
|
Fritz Coldcockin posted:That depends on AZ. If Sinema pulls out the win then it's only four seats. Flipping 4 seats is a lot easier than flipping 5. If we were looking at a night where you needed to flip 6... the Senate would be all but impossible to take in 2020.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:38
|
|
|
Kimsemus posted:Not a frozen chance in hell so long as they want to preserve 2nd amendment rights. They'll have to just reverse or wait for another case and erode it. Reasonable Burden is the conservative silver bullet judicially. I'm pretty sure a court can recognize a different (un?)reasonable burden standard for different things like buying a murder machine vs getting an elective medical procedure.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:38
|
|
|
this whole family is pretty great https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1060541723464683520
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:38
|
|
|
Data Graham posted:My understanding is that when old people "fall and break their hip", it really means their hip breaks on its own just because that joint is so drat fragile and osteoporotic at that age and can't hold up their weight anymore, and then they fall. Some people fall and break, some people break and fall.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:38
|
|
|
At least RBG gets to miss this poo poo show https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1060532983386566656
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:38
|
|
|
Hieronymous Alloy posted:Side discussion: Very slim. Doug Jones will have a very difficult reelection, so I'm going to start us at D-1--his loss isn't a foregone conclusion, but it's likely enough. I'd say the rest of the Democrats up for reelection are pretty safe--one or two of them might face a primary challenge, but they're reasonably popular incumbents in relatively blue states so I wouldn't necessarily expect to lose their seats. One of them is in Michigan, which Trump won in 2016, but we just saw Michigan go mega-blue on Tuesday and it's beginning to enact voting reforms so I'd say Michigan is very winnable for Democrats in 2020. As for picking up seats from Republicans, the most possibly winnable seats are in Colorado, Maine, and maybe Iowa and North Carolina. If we assume all four go blue, that puts us at a net D+3 from where we are now. Frankly, if you forced me to right now, I would put money on Colorado and Maine flipping. Maine especially--Collins tanked her approval rating with Kavanaugh, and she might even be retiring so the incumbency bias might not even factor in. The rest are... not super likely. I'd give a big "mayyyyyyyybe?" to Kansas and Montana after Tuesday--neither seem likely to flip, but I think it can be done. The rest of the list includes Mitch McConnell, who is an immortal lich with a stranglehold on his seat; Lindsey Graham, who I'd absolutely love to unseat but it's South Carolina; John Cornyn in Texas, who has all of Ted Cruz's built-in "Republican in Texas" advantages while also not being some sort of strange slime monster; and then a long list of deeply red states. I sort of wonder what a Democrat running on free healthcare in West Virginia could accomplish, though. Harrow fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Nov 8, 2018 |
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:39
|
|
|
Munkeymon posted:I'm pretty sure a court can recognize a different (un?)reasonable burden standard for different things like buying a murder machine vs getting an elective medical procedure. No they can't. The standard is constitutional. It's the thread that runs through everything from Terry v Ohio through Heller & McDonald. To contort the standard in this way would basically destroy it. It's also VERY hard to move as a needle of judgment since it's been deemed to be written into the constitution.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:39
|
|
|
Doccykins posted:At least RBG gets to miss this poo poo show And he'll make a comment about how happy he is he'll soon go to a third of one of these events and the press will get the vapors and fall on the nearest fainting couch and the usual suspects will honk and holler their empty words and then he'll actually do it with minor opposition
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:41
|
|
|
Doccykins posted:At least RBG gets to miss this poo poo show Maybe she just threw herself down the stairs to get out of seeing El Barto get his robe.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:41
|
|
|
Gripweed posted:One fun thing I'm expecting is the return of obscenity laws. A lot of states still have them on the books, but former Supreme Court decisions have made them somewhat unenforceable. Near the end of the reign of obscenity laws they were mostly used to target LGBT people by considering anything casting homosexuality in even a remotely positive light as "obscene". Considering how evangelicals are loving terrified of all things trans I could easily see the same thing happening again.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:41
|
|
|
Taking the Senate in 2020 relies a lot on picking a good Presidential candidate that will get voters excited to vote. The Democrats can't afford to nominate another Hillary Clinton.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:41
|
|
|
I want to be able to give myself blowjobs anyway so I'll happily give RBG two of my ribs.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:41
|
|
|
Tibalt posted:This is a good post and is correct. It also illustrates why Senators like Manchin are so valuable and so good. I did forget that Doug Jones is probably gone unless Roy Moore runs again though  That said, we can take another crack at Arizona, maybe John Cornyn...plus, you know, there's a Presidential election that year, so it might not matter either way.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:42
|
|
|
Kimsemus posted:No they can't. The standard is constitutional. It's the thread that runs through everything from Terry v Ohio through Heller & McDonald. To contort the standard in this way would basically destroy it. It's also VERY hard to move as a needle of judgment since it's been deemed to be written into the constitution. scalia's dissent to gay marriage was that it's gross and he hates it
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:42
|
|
|
Fritz Coldcockin posted:I did forget that Doug Jones is probably gone unless Roy Moore runs again though That depends. The country may be doing well economically but Alabama is still struggling. If their economy turns around Doug Jones can ride on that wave.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:43
|
|
|
Fritz Coldcockin posted:I did forget that Doug Jones is probably gone unless Roy Moore runs again though pray for a Jeff Sessions vs. Roy Moore primary, where the Trump people punish Sessions for his disloyalty
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:43
|
|
|
eke out posted:this kind of fatalistic fan fiction is pretty unhelpful and it's not really representative of conservative judicial priorities, either. sweeping restrictions on speech aren't even at the bottom of the list right now Nah, I don't think people really understand how tenuous social progress made on the basis of judicial decisions is.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:43
|
|
|
Shifty Pony posted:Near the end of the reign of obscenity laws they were mostly used to target LGBT people by considering anything casting homosexuality in even a remotely positive light as "obscene". Considering how evangelicals are loving terrified of all things trans I could easily see the same thing happening again. Don't forget that there's constantly lawsuits over sexuality-based discrimination. They're perfectly free to say that's religious freedom and the law of the land and overturn every state's protection laws at once
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:44
|
|
|
Kimsemus posted:That depends. The country may be doing well economically but Alabama is still struggling. If their economy turns around Doug Jones can ride on that wave. He's a democrat, he will get voted out even if Nick Saban and Tua suck him off on live television
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:44
|
|
|
Lemming posted:Lmfao no loving way, what the hell? Is this seriously as dumb as it sounds? Thread moves fast so apologies if this was already posted but until 2009 they could veto individual letters https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-item_veto_in_the_United_States#Wisconsin
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:44
|
|
|
Hieronymous Alloy posted:Side discussion: Non-zero, but a lot lower than people would like to admit. The demographic issues with the senate are still there and Trump on the ballot may be a wildcard but he's probably going to keep the chud turnout high. Even if by some miracle the democrats manage to not democrat it up with their nominees, it's too close to be comfortable. But 2020 is a long way out. We might not even be having elections due to the war by then! Which war? Well, the survivors in the wasteland will just call it "the war" so we might as well get a jump on that now.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:44
|
|
|
I am finding it progressively more difficult to imagine a world where our politics are not permanently and increasingly hosed.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:45
|
|
|
Kimsemus posted:No they can't. The standard is constitutional. It's the thread that runs through everything from Terry v Ohio through Heller & McDonald. To contort the standard in this way would basically destroy it. It's also VERY hard to move as a needle of judgment since it's been deemed to be written into the constitution. I very well may be using the wrong legal term, but my understanding is that a different test is applied to laws restricting abortions and laws restricting murder fetish purchases. All they have to do is slowly alter the former test until it's only unconstitutional to deny access to abortion if the law states a clinic must be in an aircraft connected to a level one trauma center by a paper mache tunnel or something.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:45
|
|
|
Fritz Coldcockin posted:I did forget that Doug Jones is probably gone unless Roy Moore runs again though I don't think this is true. Doug Jones won through the votes of black men and women. We can do that again. Texas showed us that EVERY state can be competitive. Democrats just need a candidate with charisma that will bring people to the polls. I know that things look bleak because...Alabama, but every state can be won if you run an actual person and not an empty suit.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:45
|
|
|
eke out posted:pray for a Jeff Sessions vs. Roy Moore primary, where the Trump people punish Sessions for his disloyalty Moore is certainly not above taking another shot at it, and Republican primary voters are not above voting for him. If it is Sessions v. Moore I give him a better-than-50% chance of actually winning the primary.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:45
|
|
|
corn in the bible posted:Don't forget that there's constantly lawsuits over sexuality-based discrimination. They're perfectly free to say that's religious freedom and the law of the land and overturn every state's protection laws at once The bar is WELL below that now. the Hobby Lobby case basically ratified "sincerely held belief" as the standard for doing/not doing something, not even religious protections.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:45
|
|
|
Xand_Man posted:Thread moves fast so apologies if this was already posted but until 2009 they could veto individual letters AHAHA, this is the dumbest god drat thing and I love it.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:46
|
|
|
friendbot2000 posted:I don't think this is true. Doug Jones won through the votes of black men and women. We can do that again. Texas showed us that EVERY state can be competitive. Democrats just need a candidate with charisma that will bring people to the polls. I know that things look bleak because...Alabama, but every state can be won if you run an actual person and not an empty suit. Doug Jones loving sucks dude
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:46
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 29, 2024 10:50 |
|
|
mango sentinel posted:I am finding it progressively more difficult to imagine a world where our politics are not permanently and increasingly hosed. We made progress this election, cling onto that with both hands. People are pissed and there is only so much the right can do against that.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2018 15:46
|
|
