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corn in the bible posted:yeah and also the entirety of houston's court system is now run by democrats lol That one republican judge having a temper tantrum and just releasing all juvenile defendants was just great  Also apparently two of the judges kicked out were responsible for the majority of juvenile PoC sent to prison.
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Prester Jane posted:No, he was literally the deciding vote. He should have at the very least Force the Republicans to do whatever they would have had to do to pass Kavanagh without him, instead he decided to be the deciding vote and to give one of the GOP Senators a hall pass. He was only the deciding vote in that any given vote can arguably be called a "deciding" vote. HIs vote was not announced until after other announcements had made his vote moot. You can argue he made some private statement first but that's speculative.
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god loving drat it rbg that is all
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Prester Jane posted:No, he was literally the deciding vote. He should have at the very least forced the Republicans to do whatever they would have had to do to pass Kavanagh without him- instead he chose to be the deciding vote and to give one of the GOP Senators a hall pass. 50-48. If it were 49-49, Pence puts him in. That is not the deciding vote.
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we've seen a lot of 'zeroing in on Roger Stone' reports but here's some of the first confirmed requests about Stone's contacts with the trump campaign (as opposed to wikileaks) https://twitter.com/eorden/status/1060550600964870146
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corn in the bible posted:yeah and also the entirety of houston's court system is now run by democrats lol It's extremely good Imagine these 19 women(out of 75 judges voted in) replacing 19 chuds because that's exactly what happened. Every black woman won her race. 
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FizFashizzle posted:Atlanta is the capital. Unless you’re saying he’s just going onget plastered somewhere in which case yes savannah is God’s country. Why did I think Savannah was the capital? God, I need to go back to fifth grade geography. 
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eke out posted:he's repeatedly said he supports the mueller probe. He also kneecapped Rubio for Trump in that debate, and is an unabashed suckup to get what he wants. I could see him bullshitting Trump into thinking he's "loyal" then encouraging Mueller to piledrive Kushner just for funsies. He might not even need to be circumspect about it, Trump would probably actually be all for a "pin it all on Kushner" strategy.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:He was only the deciding vote in that any given vote can arguably be called a "deciding" vote. HIs vote was not announced until after other announcements had made his vote moot. You can argue he made some private statement first but that's speculative. When it came time to actually do the deed, he cast the deciding vote. That's what matters. HappyHippo posted:50-48. If it were 49-49, Pence puts him in. That is not the deciding vote. No, he chose to be the deciding vote (because he perceived personal gain in throwing LGBT/Women under the bus) instead of making Pence do it.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:He was only the deciding vote in that any given vote can arguably be called a "deciding" vote. HIs vote was not announced until after other announcements had made his vote moot. You can argue he made some private statement first but that's speculative. also there is no sense in which he was the deciding vote, because kavanaugh was confirmed by two votes. the vote was 50-48, meaning you needed to flip two votes because of the VP tiebreaker and no one vote was the deciding vote in the technical "when you win by one, every vote is the deciding vote" sense. so there's only the actual, useful meaning of the deciding vote, the person whose vote actually ended any chance he would not be confirmed - Collins.
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that's not what deciding means. he did not cast the deciding vote, collins did.
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 For as much bitching about how nyt (they do) paints trump in a far too favorable light, today’s paper at school has a nice headline. Loyalist is a good way to put the state of things.
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its curtains for Kevin posted:
They're nicer than me. I consider him a political hack.
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Blitz7x posted:It's extremely good yes, and i realize that this level of turnout's probably not sustainable and they'll go back to gop assholes over time, but also a lot of judicial seats simply go unopposed because, hey, why bother? seems like that might stop happening now that people have shown you can, you know, win them sometimes
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Shifty Pony posted:He also kneecapped Rubio for Trump in that debate, and is an unabashed suckup to get what he wants. I hate Christie's stinking toady guts but he'd be light-years better than Kobach or Bondi at Justice, so if I have to pick a horse, he's my horse.
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corn in the bible posted:It doesn't seem like this fixes the problem--recounts never overturn races and certainly not ones as far apart as that one was Hi, Virginia here, you’re wrong and uninformed
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eke out posted:he's repeatedly said he supports the mueller probe. yeah chris christie probably really, really wants to be there to smile and wave at Kushner as he's led away in handcuffs Fritz Coldcockin posted:I hate Christie's stinking toady guts but he'd be light-years better than Kobach or Bondi at Justice, so if I have to pick a horse, he's my horse. pence's ears perk up for a moment
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Your Boy Fancy posted:Hi, Virginia here, you’re wrong and uninformed I'd be ecstatic for it to happen so I'm willing to live and hope
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:I hate Christie's stinking toady guts but he'd be light-years better than Kobach or Bondi at Justice, so if I have to pick a horse, he's my horse. The only reason Christie is being considered is so Trump can poo poo-crush his spirit again when he laughs at him and says it was a joke after he picks Kobach.
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Prester Jane posted:When it came time to actually do the deed, he cast the deciding vote. That's what matters. No one cares about your made up definition of a deciding vote. If he voted the other way Kavanaugh would still be confirmed. That is not "deciding."
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Prester Jane posted:No, he chose to be the deciding vote instead of making Pence do it. when you decide to be a "technically correct" nitwit, you need to actually be technically correct, and you are not correct no matter how badly you try to mangle the english language to turn every vote into a "deciding vote" "well, the vote was 68-32, but one of the votes in the 68 was technically the deciding vote because they chose to be the deciding vote instead of making one of the other 67 be it, which is a useful and intelligable use of the phrase 'deciding vote' instead of redefining a term into meaninglessness in a vain attempt to not be wrong"
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DandyLion posted:The only reason Christie is being considered is so Trump can poo poo-crush his spirit again when he laughs at him and says it was a joke after he picks Kobach. That's very appealing
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HappyHippo posted:50-48. If it were 49-49, Pence puts him in. That is not the deciding vote. VP only breaks the tie if it's 50-50
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eke out posted:we've seen a lot of 'zeroing in on Roger Stone' reports but here's some of the first confirmed requests about Stone's contacts with the trump campaign (as opposed to wikileaks) This means he already has those call logs, correct? And is asking for Trump to produce a copy so they can check for deletion, yes?
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GreyjoyBastard posted:yeah chris christie probably really, really wants to be there to smile and wave at Kushner as he's led away in handcuffs I think that if the Senate has their way that they will tell Trump he can easily get Christie confirmed with 60+ votes and he will get all kinds of sloppy media blowjobs for appointing a "moderate" (even though Christie isn't really a moderate), so could be induced to do it. Plus, Christie did bow and scrape and endorse Trump during the campaign and you know how much Donny loves having his ring kissed.
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Prester Jane posted:When it came time to actually do the deed, he cast the deciding vote. That's what matters. THat's not what "deciding vote" means and I wish you wouldn't do this sort of fact-agnostic derail. Like, your actual point was fine without trying to re-define the meaning of the phrase "deciding vote". Instead now the discussion is going down this weird semantic derail because nothing distracts goons like a factually inaccurate statement about semantics. Just make your argument without gilding it. You can argue Manchin's horrible in a lot of other ways without making Kavanaugh his fault too. Like, just say "Look, Manchin voted for Kavanaugh, he's horrible." Point made, and it's factually indisputable. Whether or not your assertion that Manchin was the deciding vote is correct, it is a weak point that causes distraction.
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evilweasel posted:when you decide to be a "technically correct" nitwit, you need to actually be technically correct, and you are not correct no matter how badly you try to mangle the english language to turn every vote into a "deciding vote" but i didn't even say anything in this conversation!
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FuturePastNow posted:VP only breaks the tie if it's 50-50 not correct
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The NYT does lots of good anti-Trump reporting, and lots of pants-shittingly awful BOTH SIDES  editorializing.With Haberman's shitfuck access "journalism" tweeting on the side.
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Trasson posted:Beto should run in Texas in 2020 no matter how much of a snowball's chance he has. Yes! New plan: kidnap Beto's, uh, dog, I guess? Every two years and say he only gets the pooch back if he finds something to run for statewide.
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FuturePastNow posted:VP only breaks the tie if it's 50-50 Wrong.
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get ready for a third chud-justice!
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its curtains for Kevin posted:
This is a plot-exposition front page for an establishing shot of our world if ever there was one. Or maybe for spinning out at us wildly during a montage.
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FuturePastNow posted:VP only breaks the tie if it's 50-50 Nope. Here's Pence breaking a 49-49 tie: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=115&session=2&vote=00040
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Any NC goons want to confirm something for me? It appears based on local news articles that Roy Cooper is moderately popular in NC despite his ongoing battles with the legislature. Would that be a fair assessment?
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:I hate Christie's stinking toady guts but he'd be light-years better than Kobach or Bondi at Justice, so if I have to pick a horse, he's my horse. I dunno is a horse so fat that it can't walk better than a nazi horse?
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