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Party Plane Jones posted:This is a very dangerous toxx, we already had some guy lose a hat eating toxx and make himself some sort of Carmen Miranda hat to get out of, you know, poisoning himself
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mistaya posted:Fixed for the proper escapist tones.  Kimsemus posted:since you like injecting race into everything you and shaun king should probably hang out, you have stupid points in common. lmao shut the gently caress up.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:oh, absolutely. that's part of the equation. Sorry, just gotta point out you mean straight, able bodied, cis white guy. I'm a white guy with a disability and literally spend my life working on trying to get just a base level of hosed by millennial standards, not turbofucked, and I have more people than I should accuse me of "being bitter" if I ever lose composure.
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Dick Trauma posted:Even Captain Disillusion has been dragged into this... The fact they did this is just so loving stupid. Jesus Christ. Why? What possible outcome was going to come of this that benefited them against the millions of other captures of this? How loving dumb does the president and his gang of morons have to be?
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https://twitter.com/JohnQBarrett/status/1060333390153560064 The exit poll apparently show 18% of black women who voted voted for DeSantis. These exit polls are trash. Lightning Knight posted:You're impressively dumb. His avatar is Trump trying to run over a stereotype of a Mexican. Jared for prison. 
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just an fyi every time i see a cat picture itt, i will pet a cat against the grain ie backwards ie a reverse petting
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evilweasel posted:There were (and still somewhat are, but they diminish with each passing day) reasons to believe that Mueller was prepared to pull the trigger ASAP after the midterms, mostly because it's reasonable to assume (A) he did not want to release anything during the DOJ "quiet period" around an election and (B) that he is not as dumb as a sack of potatoes and also read the reports that Trump was likely to try to shut his investigation down after the midterms. yeah i'm just of the opinion that we have more indictments to go, then we need to see if those people who are indicted flip, and what they say, etc etc. the one 'report' element I think is more reasonable is on obstruction alone, if they have concluded that they don't have an actionable case for obstruction. but that's the one they're still (supposedly) actively negotiating with Trump on
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Kimsemus posted:sacrifices life/sanity for country Not sure that's what's going on, op. Calibanibal posted:just an fyi every time i see a cat picture itt, i will pet a cat against the grain ie backwards ie a reverse petting I don't think that will turn out well for you.
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Pretty sure "domestic disputes" and "tractors" are in that concept pool as well
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Calibanibal posted:just an fyi every time i see a cat picture itt, i will pet a cat against the grain ie backwards ie a reverse petting
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Solaris 2.0 posted:A take so hot only D&D could cook it up and defend it. gently caress off with this. Actually cspam would probably defend it as well. Here’s a good question for you, can things get bad enough that you’d agree? Say if cops were executing minorities on the street and taking them to concentration camps would you still be defending the honor of “the good ones”?
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Calibanibal posted:just an fyi every time i see a cat picture itt, i will pet a cat against the grain ie backwards ie a reverse petting Jesus. You monster.  Ague Proof posted:His avatar is Trump trying to run over a stereotype of a Mexican. I'm aware, he was one of the original shitposters in Negrotown. I was waiting for him to dig himself deeper and he delivered.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:And who will force the US Senate to have a trial? How to conduct a trial is clearly a political question, but whether to conduct a trial may not be one. Googled some more and there is actually a Senate rule on point: https://www.law.cornell.edu/background/impeach/senaterules.pdf quote:I. Whensoever the Senate shall receive notice from the As of now the trial process must be prompt. The only time these rules could be changed is on the first day of the next Senate session in January. That would set off such a shitshow in itself that I don't think the GOP touches them.
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this signalling is moderately interesting in light of the AG rumors https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/1060580239212978176
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Lightning Knight posted:Seems like Gillum would have more impact in the long-term imo. Almost certainly (unless Florida governors serve a 2 year term, which I doubt but also don't know for certain), but I'm also of the opinion that 2020 is a key inflection point and that it's necessary to win a D trifecta in that year to get enough passed in two years to reverse the bend of the Senate towards a permanently Republican institution. So that's the only reason I'd hesitate, but I still think Gillum would probably be the right answer. That said, I think that it is much more likely Nelson wins a recount than Gillum, because (a) he's got less of a gap to make up; and (b) one of his key arguments is apparently a ton of votes where a governor vote was registered but not a senate vote, in a D heavy area, so that's an avenue for him to win in a way that doesn't help Gillum.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Someone impeach this man The cats will take care of themselves, soon he won't have enough hands to keep doing that
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Ague Proof posted:https://twitter.com/JohnQBarrett/status/1060333390153560064 Wait, I thought Handel lost though
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even from a strictly mercenary perspective, gillum would be better for me / my consulting and consulting-adjacent stuff than desantis, although not by the margins you might think gillum's inclinations re transportation stuff are compatible with our expertise, but desantis wants to burn everything to the ground and give the ashes to private enterprise, which could be profitable enough for us to build a solid fleet of armored trucks with mounted guns in the few years before we need them to set ourselves up as warlords of the wastelands
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axeil posted:Yeah I think in Florida with Gillum/Nelson basically getting the exact same vote share the message we should go with is "policy preference doesn't really matter in FL". I'm not sure if that's because everyone in FL is old, the GOP voters there are all CHUDs, Dems just vote Dem regardless of policy, Indies have no clue what they're doing or what. Since I like M4A and other leftist positions those are what I want to see next time in Florida, but a centrist can look at the same data and argue for centrist positions and we both will be right because policy appears not to matter in FL. We know with pretty good certainty that your typical regressive voter cares about party affiliation first and policy second. If the GOP candidate is too distasteful to them they're more likely to stay home than switch sides but in general they're reliably pull the R lever after the primary. Progressive voters are policy first and party second, especially those that are more progressive, and there's a much larger risk of them staying home or voting third party if their preferred candidate doesn't win the Primary. Neither group is all that likely to vote for the other party. This also, of course, completely ignores all of the voters (predominantly Dem-voting, of course) that are kept from voting by one means of suppression or another. Calibanibal posted:just an fyi every time i see a cat picture itt, i will pet a cat against the grain ie backwards ie a reverse petting 
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Calibanibal posted:just an fyi every time i see a cat picture itt, i will pet a cat against the grain ie backwards ie a reverse petting Just don't be surprised when they scratch the poo poo out of you.
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Who, I tell you. Who in all of this hosed world could have expected a white guy to just flip out and kill people?!
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evilweasel posted:Almost certainly (unless Florida governors serve a 2 year term, which I doubt but also don't know for certain), but I'm also of the opinion that 2020 is a key inflection point and that it's necessary to win a D trifecta in that year to get enough passed in two years to reverse the bend of the Senate towards a permanently Republican institution. So that's the only reason I'd hesitate, but I still think Gillum would probably be the right answer. flgov serves for four years, up to two consecutive terms (which is why scott got shuffled over to senate)
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Adar posted:How to conduct a trial is clearly a political question, but whether to conduct a trial may not be one.
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corn in the bible posted:Wait, I thought Handel lost though Sorry there, reddit magachud!
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Calibanibal posted:just an fyi every time i see a cat picture itt, i will pet a cat against the grain ie backwards ie a reverse petting A friend once owned this cat who liked that and would get mad if you pet him the proper way, it was very unsettling
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That's the most full-blown white fragility I've seen in awhile in the Trump thread.eke out posted:this signalling is moderately interesting in light of the AG rumors Ugh, I can see Christie working out for them. Bondi is too obviously a Fox News talking head, but Christie has been doing the talking head circuit on ABC for awhile trying to rehabilitate his image into some kind of rational-but-still-for-Trump jerkwad. Mostly around New Jersey issues, but he can branch out.
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evilweasel posted:Almost certainly (unless Florida governors serve a 2 year term, which I doubt but also don't know for certain), but I'm also of the opinion that 2020 is a key inflection point and that it's necessary to win a D trifecta in that year to get enough passed in two years to reverse the bend of the Senate towards a permanently Republican institution. So that's the only reason I'd hesitate, but I still think Gillum would probably be the right answer. I heard rumors yesterday there were ~100k votes uncounted in Broward County, has anyone else heard this or is it just Twitter rumors/wishcasting? I'm real nervous for those absentee/early votes in AZ getting released at 5 PST today. I assume the AZ GOP suing to try and not count some of them means it's probably good for Sinema. 
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corn in the bible posted:Wait, I thought Handel lost though She did!
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Taerkar posted:We know with pretty good certainty that your typical regressive voter cares about party affiliation first and policy second. If the GOP candidate is too distasteful to them they're more likely to stay home than switch sides but in general they're reliably pull the R lever after the primary. i do not believe that the results from last night support your second conclusion. I think that the correct way to phrase it is that GOP voters are more likely to vote than Democratic voters, and so boosting turnout (somehow) is more important to Democrats. that can be through progressive policy; it can be through exciting candidates; it can be through good old-fashioned turnout operations. but the results from last night did not support the idea that policy is what dictates turnout, at least any analysis I've seen of it (and if you have any, I'd be happy to read it).
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corn in the bible posted:Wait, I thought Handel lost though She did. 
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Bicyclops posted:Ugh, I can see Christie working out for them. Bondi is too obviously a Fox News talking head, but Christie has been doing the talking head circuit on ABC for awhile trying to rehabilitate his image into some kind of rational-but-still-for-Trump jerkwad. Mostly around New Jersey issues, but he can branch out. sorry but i've solidified behind christie as by far the least bad person we can possibly hope for all I know is that every other name is loving crazy, evil, and also absolutely poo poo no-nothing lawyers (see: Bondi, Kobach). i'll take the comically corrupt guy who holds no real opinions over that any day, it'll be a huge upgrade from Sessions
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evilweasel posted:i do not believe that the results from last night support your second conclusion. I think that the correct way to phrase it is that GOP voters are more likely to vote than Democratic voters, and so boosting turnout (somehow) is more important to Democrats. that can be through progressive policy; it can be through exciting candidates; it can be through good old-fashioned turnout operations. but the results from last night did not support the idea that policy is what dictates turnout, at least any analysis I've seen of it (and if you have any, I'd be happy to read it). One interesting thing I'd like to see is if policy boosts volunteering/donations and if that has an impact on turnout/results. But volunteer numbers aren't publicly available so I doubt we'll ever have an answer unless someone itt is a high-ish level campaign person for a Dem and can get data from other campaigns. Actually, the DNC/DCCC might be able to figure it out but they'll likely never publicly release any study around it as it's too likely to cause more problems than it solves.
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Lightning Knight posted:
Lightning Knight you are tough but fair. I like it!  On topic, have we heard anything else out of Aizona today? Edit: drat beaten. Thread moves fast
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I'm going to float a theory, thread. Voters in Florida are materially different from Ohio voters.
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SocketWrench posted:The fact they did this is just so loving stupid. Jesus Christ. Why? What possible outcome was going to come of this that benefited them against the millions of other captures of this? How loving dumb does the president and his gang of morons have to be? The destruction of truth, as a shared ideal, is a critical point in the implementation of a fascist society
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Bicyclops posted:That's the most full-blown white fragility I've seen in awhile in the Trump thread. Christie has every single conflict that Sessions did and he was also a MASSIVELY corrupt governor.
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Solaris 2.0 posted:A take so hot only D&D could cook it up and defend it. gently caress off with this. Cops as an institution have been utterly corrupted and degraded and the only reason they have any credibility are because of 24/7 pro-cop propaganda aimed mostly at boomers. Read "The Cadaver King and the Country Dentist" by Radley Balko
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