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CommieGIR posted:Nobody is advocating killing Nazis Hey speak for yourself
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The kids weren't even home. And no, no one should be targeting kids. I'm not saying they should, calm the gently caress down. But what is this dumb patriarchal bullshit about "wives" being off the table because what, the women are just helpless fainting waifs? They're adults, they live with and greatly benefit from the Nazi they married being a Nazi. Wives and husbands for that matter are not off the table.
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Nov 8, 2018 20:16
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TheScott2K posted:The kids being put in chain link cages in abandoned Walmarts with zero bureaucratic mechanism to be reunited with their parents would happily switch places. One totally crazy idea is that maybe doing bad things to children is bad regardless of whose children they are?
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Nov 8, 2018 20:16
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Z. Autobahn posted:"Republicans do terrible things to children therefore we should do terrible things to their children" is super hosed up chief If that’s what you got from my Modest Proposal you should take a break bud.
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Nov 8, 2018 20:17
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Framboise posted:Is there a way I can read this thread for the sake of rapid news updates from people who are obsessively checking it but not have to sift through all the slap fights? This is why I quit the Trump thread last time I was around it, christ. In the third post after the OP there is a Javascript snippet that will strip out every post that does not contain offsite content.
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Mind_Taker posted:https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1060609799719714817?s=21 "Tell us how many more you have yet to count of the things you haven't counted yet!" -a US Senator
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Framboise posted:Is there a way I can read this thread for the sake of rapid news updates from people who are obsessively checking it but not have to sift through all the slap fights? This is why I quit the Trump thread last time I was around it, christ. I mostly just scroll in between the tweets or links.
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Nov 8, 2018 20:18
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VH4Ever posted:And his wife and kids deserve said same as well? Reasons, please?
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Nov 8, 2018 20:18
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VH4Ever posted:Yeah I don't want to live in this country anymore. ladies and gentlemen, I give you the liberal solution to fascism: "if I lick James Fields' tires hard enough, maybe he'll decide not to run me over." (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 8, 2018 20:19
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VH4Ever posted:FINE, beat him up all you like. I'll help. Leave the wife and kids out of it. Why is this so loving difficult for people to grasp today? I'll loving die on thsi hill and gently caress the lot of you for not doing the same. I mean, gently caress the fash, that's established. But where are we drawing lines to not become what we seek to oppose? Good loving God, folks. You scare me as much as they do. he brought it upon them.
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Nov 8, 2018 20:20
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Z. Autobahn posted:One totally crazy idea is that maybe doing bad things to children is bad regardless of whose children they are? Severity is a thing. So is context. Both render all of us dropping everything to condemn the Horrible Leftist Violence being violented to Tucker Carlson and his family's pampered existence to be loving nonsense. Yeah, his kids shouldn't be hosed with. Neither should migrants' kids, and he hosed with them first. Gonna take a while to reach the front of the sympathy queue.
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Nov 8, 2018 20:21
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Z. Autobahn posted:One totally crazy idea is that maybe doing bad things to children is bad regardless of whose children they are? America, as a society has accept the concept of collateral damage even when it applies to the bombing of American children. There is very little outcry when we murder American children in the name of our forever war on the concept of terror. Likewise, we're all numb to the murder of children at the hands of their fellow Americans for no reason at all. Be it school shootings or police executions. So is it that surprising that in a culture that readily accepts the murder of children, even American children, someone might advocate that it could be acceptable collateral damage to threaten the children of Nazis? 
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Nov 8, 2018 20:21
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Like, I don't think it's good that this happened. Let me make that clear. I do think it is both inevitable and it is his own god damned fault. Also I think that Nazis are gonna Nazi until they are made to be afraid. And as long as they can go home after work without feeling a single iota of fear that the hate they spouted all day at work is going to follow them there, they will KEEP DOING IT. It doesn't matter how many protests you organize at Fox HQ if Tucker gets to go home to his white suburban mansion and ignore it. He can't ignore "We know where you live, Tucker". mistaya fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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Nov 8, 2018 20:22
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https://twitter.com/bombsfall/status/1060595402691538944 kamala harris 2020 lol
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Nov 8, 2018 20:23
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(spraying bullets into innocent staff at an abortion clinic shown on Fox News) Gunman: Terribly sorry to inconvenience you. Anybody who is here for a pap smear can line up against the wall, if they don’t want to be shot.
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Nov 8, 2018 20:23
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Trabisnikof posted:There is very little outcry when we murder American children in the name of our forever war on the concept of terror. I'm going to make the bold suggestion that the moral course of action is to care more about the first two things, rather than to care less about the third, but I'm weird like that
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Nov 8, 2018 20:23
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VH4Ever posted:Yeah, we start supporting poo poo like this and how long until we get the real fascist boot on our throats in response? Punch them in the street but I'm still drawing a line at threatening wives and kids in their home. name a more iconic pair than liberals and not understanding that the fash doesn't need an excuse
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Nov 8, 2018 20:24
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mistaya posted:Like, I don't think it's good that this happened. Let me make that clear. I do think it is both inevitable and it is his own god damned fault. Would you say he was asking for it?
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Nov 8, 2018 20:24
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Failed Imagineer posted:Basically this Hard to be alarmed by an event everyone knew was going to happen within 2 months.
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Spiritus Nox posted:I'm going to make the bold suggestion that the moral course of action is to care more about the first two things, rather than to care less about the third, but I'm weird like that excellent. what do you propose be done about the people calling constantly for more of the first two
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Nov 8, 2018 20:25
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https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/1060609438468501505 The Donnelly race was a little weird with just how different the polls were from the real result. I know Donnelly ran a bad campaign and demotivated his base with triangulating to blood and soil fascism* but he was up in polls and in the end it wasn't even close. * Okay, putting it like that then it's not a surprise, but still he was up in the polls and it's not like he changed his position that much. Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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Nov 8, 2018 20:26
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Nevvy Z posted:Hard to be alarmed by an event everyone knew was going to happen within 2 months. That's the entire point of the article yes
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Nov 8, 2018 20:26
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Nevvy Z posted:Hard to be alarmed by an event everyone knew was going to happen within 2 months. That's the point of the article- it's not alarming on its own because it happened with advance warning, but it should be alarming because many such events with no one becoming alarmed will result in the end of democracy.
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Nov 8, 2018 20:26
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:excellent. what do you propose be done about the people calling constantly for more of the first two Vote them out, disempower them, dunk constantly on them in the public sphere Terrorizing their children is rather less desirable.
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Nov 8, 2018 20:26
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TheScott2K posted:Severity is a thing. So is context. Both render all of us dropping everything to condemn the Horrible Leftist Violence being violented to Tucker Carlson and his family's pampered existence to be loving nonsense. Yeah, his kids shouldn't be hosed with. Neither should migrants' kids, and he hosed with them first. Gonna take a while to reach the front of the sympathy queue. I don't disagree with any of this, and I absolutely agree we should be focusing the sympathy queue on the immigrant children being ripped away from their parents. But IMO there's a difference between the 'let's focus on migrant children, guys' and shouting 'hell yeah' to TC's family being targeted. The latter feels super hosed up. Trabisnikof posted:
It's not surprising, no, but it's wrong. Children really honestly should be off-limits. It's... kind of shocking that's not universally agreed upon.
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Nov 8, 2018 20:26
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Politely request a change in tone the fash
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haveblue posted:That's the point of the article- it's not alarming on its own because it happened with advance warning, but it should be alarming because many such events with no one becoming alarmed will result in the end of democracy. Of course, we all know that democracy ended in the 80s, but we can hope it returns
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Nov 8, 2018 20:27
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Catalyst-proof posted:Would you say he was asking for it? Does Richard Spencer ask to be punched with his words and actions? Yes. Don't try to make a "lol, tucker wore a short dress at a bar." Get hosed. Tucker is stoking violence and hatred on national television every night.
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Nov 8, 2018 20:27
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Either ya'll start posting better or your 6 hour tour to Probation Island is going to turn out to be a long stay in Devil's Island.
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Spiritus Nox posted:Vote them out, disempower them, dunk constantly on them in the public sphere We can't vote Tucker out, we don't have much leverage over whether or not Fox fires him, and dunking on him constantly is fun and cathartic but doesn't seem to have much of an effect. What do you propose we do instead?
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Nov 8, 2018 20:28
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mistaya posted:Like, I don't think it's good that this happened. Let me make that clear. I do think it is both inevitable and it is his own god damned fault. Yeah pretty much. It's not a good thing but from a sociological point of view, bad things happen when people get pissed enough. Like, just as a hypothetical - I want you to imagine a Senator committed a series of crimes and continued to get away with it because of rampant corruption within law enforcement. I want you to imagine in this hypothetical that it goes on for years, and there is no appreciable change in the status quo. First question, do you think that American should wait patiently for good to triumph and that it inevitably will? Second question, how bad do the crimes have to be before his constituents tear him apart in his home? Because if we're unwilling to face the possibility that those points exist, we can't realistically talk about how to avoid the worst parts of our nature.
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Also Tucker did this exact thing already to someone else by doxing their family. https://twitter.com/slpng_giants/status/1060430009414733824?s=19 It's really up in the air about the morality of this, especially once you involve kids, but he specifically is starting this and then acting like the victim when it inevitable comes around to him. The right is already doing the exact thing but of course no one cares until suddenly they are affected. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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Spiritus Nox posted:I'm going to make the bold suggestion that the moral course of action is to care more about the first two things, rather than to care less about the third, but I'm weird like that What if someone honestly believes that doing the third will help work to end the first two? Like that's why we kill American kids from bombers in planes, so that we can keep American kids from getting killed by bombers without planes. You're arguing that collateral damage is always bad, and while that might be compelling, it isn't exactly congruent with the world we live in. Collateral damage, the killing of children, and the killing of American children, is part of the society we both inhabit. Our victory over the Nazis and Japanese is filled with the mass death of children. Does that make American action in ww2 immoral in your eyes, or do you believe like most Americans, that killing kids is sometimes justified? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Majorian posted:We can't vote Tucker out, we don't have much leverage over whether or not Fox fires him, and dunking on him constantly is fun and cathartic but doesn't seem to have much of an effect. What do you propose we do instead? Sponsor boycotts, protest the man himself, enact stronger hate speech/libel laws, a wide array of options that do not involve threatening violence on children. Trabisnikof posted:Our victory over the Nazis and Japanese is filled with the mass death of children. Does that make American action in ww2 immoral in your eyes, or do you believe like most Americans, that killing kids is sometimes justified? Oh today I learned that the woke leftist position is that firebombing Dresden and nuking Hiroshima were actually justifiable, noble courses of action, cool, cool gently caress. Off.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:i hate that smiley and disagree with your assertion I'm just sort of starting to tune it out and skip posts with it in them because ive determined people just like using it and its maybe at best going to marginally apply to a given situation and maybe not something i need to read. Its always "This person is going to drop the ball on that because reasons" *decorumemote* For the mass shooting thing its just sadly become a common occurence that RBGs fall feels like the top news item for the day. Its slow creeping desensitation in real time. How long ago was the the pittsburgh shooting? I feel like it cant have been more than a couple weeks. I remember being horrified by the Pulse Shooting back before the Orange Man was elected. Now it feels weekly or bi-weekly and the death tolls often in the double digits.
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Nov 8, 2018 20:32
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haveblue posted:That's the point of the article- it's not alarming on its own because it happened with advance warning, but it should be alarming because many such events with no one becoming alarmed will result in the end of democracy. *revoking press passes because the president doesn't like being asked questions he can't lie about and claiming it was because of assault on a staffer that everyone decried as bullshit* I think we're well on our way there all ready
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Trabisnikof posted:What if someone honestly believes that doing the third will help work to end the first two? Outside of the huge reach of this analogy, this is patently incorrect because nothing would galvanize the nation against us more than if we started killing children. I'm pretty loving leftist, but that's the point where I get off the train, and a whole lot of other people would too.
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Spiritus Nox posted:Sponsor boycotts, protest the man himself, enact stronger hate speech/libel laws, a wide array of options that do not involve threatening violence on children. But again, his kids weren't home. I'm not okay with threatening kids either, but that doesn't seem to be what happened here.
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Catalyst-proof posted:Would you say he was asking for it?
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