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anthonypants posted:The Oregonian put up a flowery opinion piece for Joey Gibson last week, so the Willamette Week decided they needed to do one for the Portland Chief of Police https://twitter.com/wweek/status/1060253050495881216 It's almost like print is a regressive medium.
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SousaphoneColossus posted:according to that link it was passed by the legislature and signed by the governor and was only put up to a popular vote because anti-gay marriage people got enough signatures to challenge it still was passed via popular vote those beloved dems wimped the gently caress out of taking responsibility for the law passing and handed it off to the people they are supposed to represent who said "yeah, gay marriage is pretty good wtf are you asking us to vote on this for just do it"
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Goast posted:still was passed via popular vote no they literally passed it and the governor signed it, and then it was forced onto the ballot by anti-gay marriage signature gatherers, what part of this are you not getting quote:Title 26 of the Revised Code of Washington, entitled "domestic relations", governs marriage in Washington state.[6] A 2012 bill, Senate Bill 6239, would legalize same-sex marriage and convert into a marriage on June 30, 2014, any undissolved state registered domestic partnership that does not involve at least one party aged 62 years or older.[7][8] It also would add language at Section 26.04.010 exempting religious organizations from any requirement to "provide accommodations, facilities, advantages, privileges, services, or goods related to the solemnization or celebration of a marriage".[9] Governor Christine Gregoire signed the engrossed bill on February 13.[10] The bill was scheduled to take effect June 7 – 90 days after the end of the legislative session — but opponents submitted on June 6 the necessary signatures to suspend the bill and require a statewide voter referendum.[11][12][13] On June 12, the Washington secretary of state announced that enough signatures had been submitted to place the referendum on the ballot for the November general election.[3][14] eta: i'm not a huge fan of the WA state legislature either but there's enough to criticize them for without having to make easily disprovable poo poo up SousaphoneColossus fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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Hahahahahaha suck my bright pink dildo, Dino Rossi.
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the part where people in this thread claim that popular direct measures are somehow more undemocratic than representative votes Goast fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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Goast posted:the part where people in this thread claim that popular direct measures are somehow more undemocratic than representative votes i wasn't arguing that, you seemed to be arguing that the legislature didn't pass a bill that they did pass so 
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I think the only salient point is that the kind of abuse being suggested possible with citizen initiatives, in the mentioned case, was successfully prevented
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the right to marry a dude wasn't granted to me by benevolent governors, congresspeople and senators in the end it was granted by the people of washington and you could have thrown every democratic politician into a pit and people still would have voted the same
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looking at polls and seeing that the majority of people think gays aren't evil isn't enough to convince people you are actually worth a poo poo
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Goast posted:the right to marry a dude wasn't granted to me by benevolent governors, congresspeople and senators in the end it was granted by the people of washington and you could have thrown every democratic politician into a pit and people still would have voted the same Ima be pedantic here, but yeah, it was granted to you by the governor, congresspeople and senators. It wasn't almost immediately revoked by the will of the people. We could have easily done it that way, but they got to it first. You've got some real valid anger, but order of operations seems like a real silly hill to die on.
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so if gay marriage opponents hadn't gathered enough signatures for a referendum and it had just passed with no public vote, you would consider that a bad thing?
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Jeez this seems like a dumbshit argument to have.
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Relentless posted:We could have easily done it that way so why didn't that happen earlier? the legislature waited for their donors balmer, gates, starbucks, nike and nordstrom to give them the support before they actually did anything
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the only reason any member of state legislature votes one way or the other is because someone with more capital and money than us tells them to, stop pretending they are actually accountable to you or your opinions
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Relentless posted:Ima be pedantic here, but yeah, it was granted to you by the governor, congresspeople and senators. PEMDAS MOTHERFUCKER!
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middleschool mathematics is the best ideology fight me over it nerd
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Are any of you nerds going to one of the Sessions protests tomorrow
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Probably not. I'm missing a union council meeting tomorrow night because I need to watch my kids solo while my wife has a night out for once in forever. If real life would stop getting in the way I could actually start the drat revolution.
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im on the net me boys posted:Are any of you nerds going to one of the Sessions protests tomorrow I'm working. If there's something on the weekend I'd go. I say this understanding the full irony of it, but midweek protests are tough to attend.
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im on the net me boys posted:Are any of you nerds going to one of the Sessions protests tomorrow It will be a loving cold day in hell before I protest over that piece of poo poo getting fired. I recognize the reasons for it are super lovely, but that man is subhuman garbage. One of the few silver linings to the Trump administration has been watching him get exactly what he wanted (the AG spot) like he had made a wish on a loving monkey's paw for it.
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Thanatosian posted:It will be a loving cold day in hell before I protest over that piece of poo poo getting fired. I honestly can't comprehend how liberals are going to bat for this super racist piece of poo poo.
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DevNull posted:I honestly can't comprehend how liberals are going to bat for this super racist piece of poo poo. I don't really see the point in protesting, but this characterization is totally disingenuous. Nobody protesting cares about Jeff Sessions, they all hate Jeff Sessions. E: You "honestly can't comprehend" how an action could have two consequences, one bad and one good, and people would organize to protest the bad consequence?
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Eggnogium posted:I don't really see the point in protesting, but this characterization is totally disingenuous. Nobody protesting cares about Jeff Sessions, they all hate Jeff Sessions. I get why people are protesting, but I'm also totally okay not doing ANYTHING that might accidentally portray me as being friends with incredibly racist keebler elves.
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A piece of human poo poo is now out of an important job = yay The replacement will be an even bigger piece of human poo poo = boo Thinking about that will help you be prepared when Trump is impeached and you realize that just means President Pence.
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Thanatosian posted:It will be a loving cold day in hell before I protest over that piece of poo poo getting fired. DevNull posted:I honestly can't comprehend how liberals are going to bat for this super racist piece of poo poo. gently caress Sessions. We're protesting Mueller's new boss. The solution is Whitaker recusing himself and putting Rosenstein back in. ACT I: By default, Sessions would have been Mueller's boss. Sessions recused himself and then his replacement was replaced by Rosenstein. Rosenstein's acceptable so cool. ACT II: By default, Whitaker is Mueller's new boss. Rosenstein's out? Cue protest. And Whitaker's a straight up bagman for Trump. Mueller is now overseen by a man whose prior work includes writing up ways to low-key ratfuck Mueller.
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Accretionist posted:gently caress Sessions. We're protesting Mueller's new boss. The solution is Whitaker recusing himself and putting Rosenstein back in. I totally get that. I'm not saying anyone is a bad person for hitting up these protests. I'm just saying there's a line I won't cross, and that's it. Javid posted:A piece of human poo poo is now out of an important job = yay Trump might get impeached, but he's never getting convicted.
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These protests really seem like MoveOn is blowing their load way too loving early. This was a potential one time mass mobilization over something that could be incredibly impactful and you activated it over bureaucratic shuffling. Also gently caress Jeff Sessions.
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Thanatosian posted:I'm just saying there's a line I won't cross, and that's it. Hang on, are you talking about the investigation? Forget Sessions even exists. Whitaker needs to recuse himself. Accretionist fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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Speaking of investigations, what's happening with Joe Fain?
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Schmeichy posted:Speaking of investigations, what's happening with Joe Fain? His race was neck-and-neck. May be a moot point if Mona Das pulls off a win.
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Accretionist posted:gently caress Sessions. We're protesting Mueller's new boss. The solution is Whitaker recusing himself and putting Rosenstein back in. I have seen a whole lot of liberals crying over the loss of Sessions. Any protest in Seattle is going to be in danger of co-opted by the Democrats, and you better be drat strong in messaging that keeps that at bay. An example of protests like this is the counter protest for patriot prayer that was taken over by a bunch of people with a giant constitution that decided singing songs was the best idea. Of the tax march that had more anti-communist propaganda than fox news.
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DevNull posted:I have seen a whole lot of liberals crying over the loss of Sessions. What the gently caress? Someone needs to get on top of the messaging, stat.
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DevNull posted:I have seen a whole lot of liberals crying over the loss of Sessions. Any protest in Seattle is going to be in danger of co-opted by the Democrats, and you better be drat strong in messaging that keeps that at bay. You are incredibly myopic if you think democrats are upset for Sessions' sake. We are upset that Trump fired an AG for properly recusing himself from overseeing an investigation into Trump's campaign, and that this is the first step in burying the investigation
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DevNull posted:I have seen a whole lot of liberals crying over the loss of Sessions. Any protest in Seattle is going to be in danger of co-opted by the Democrats, and you better be drat strong in messaging that keeps that at bay. Please show me one liberal/democrat sad that Sessions is gone, not that his replacement is an unrecused Trump lackey. Maybe you don't understand how recusal or Justice Department oversight of the special counsel works? Though I suspect you do and are just disingenuously looking to score cheap jabs at liberals, "the real enemy", or something.
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therobit posted:You are incredibly myopic if you think democrats are upset for Sessions' sake. We are upset that Trump fired an AG for properly recusing himself from overseeing an investigation into Trump's campaign, and that this is the first step in burying the investigation Because liberals didn't raise a bunch of money for Cohen, McCabe, and Strzok.
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Eggnogium posted:Please show me one liberal/democrat sad that Sessions is gone, not that his replacement is an unrecused Trump lackey.
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I already had tickets to the Sounders Game.
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Eggnogium posted:Please show me one liberal/democrat sad that Sessions is gone, not that his replacement is an unrecused Trump lackey. Maybe you don't understand how recusal or Justice Department oversight of the special counsel works? Though I suspect you do and are just disingenuously looking to score cheap jabs at liberals, "the real enemy", or something. https://twitter.com/RepSwalwell/status/1060305143038652426 https://twitter.com/mirandayaver/status/1060275607735595009 https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1060275110433751044 They are making him out to be a victim. Imagine thinking "our" democracy depended on Sessions. Just like they have rehabbed others, they will do the same with Sessions. They have made a hero out of Bush for the sake of "resisting" Trump. If they aren't defending Session, they could start by not calling it a "Sessions protest"
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lmao get hosed dino rossi. I could imagine failing so publicly for 18 straight years (how long it has been since Rossi won a general election)
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EmbryoSteve posted:lmao get hosed dino rossi. I could imagine failing so publicly for 18 straight years (how long it has been since Rossi won a general election) If our society was actually a meritocracy, Rossi would be some disheveled guy living under a bridge and ranting about taxes.
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