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Tucker is trying the typical trick of trying to equivocate ANY response to his actions as violent in order to create the impression he's the civil one and everyone else is bad. Notice he says that they didn't want to debate his points and instead were just yelling. It's the Calm Hilter cartoon in real life and don't fall for it.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:10
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sexpig by night posted:so basically you consider it 'evil' (You're the dude who said protesting was becoming 'evil' like Tucker) if some dude brings up some hypothetical and you don't give a poo poo about it? Congrats, you can't read. I don't want anyone ITT to bend over backwards to condemn things that didn't happen, I'm saying that you shouldn't read about someone's kids getting threatened - whether that threat actually happened or not - and then declare 'that's cool and good and the right way to beat the fascists.'
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Radish posted:Tucker is trying the typical trick of trying to equivocate ANY response to his actions as violent in order to create the impression he's the civil one and everyone else is bad. It's the Calm Hilter cartoon in real life and don't fall for it. it's that twitter thread of all the liberal violence where 99.99 percent of the examples were people saying slightly stern words about republicans.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:11
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Lightning Knight posted:How about go gently caress yourself you sniveling little poo poo.  Now you're getting it (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 8, 2018 21:13
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Groovelord Neato posted:it's that twitter thread of all the liberal violence where 99.99 percent of the examples were people saying slightly stern words about republicans. Now, look, one guy lost his job and all he did was write a weird manifesto about how women don't belong in tech. And at one point, Sarah Sanders had to go somewhere else for a sandwich.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:13
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Brony Car posted:Basically, as long as Fox News and Sinclair Media exist, the GOP can easily rile up its base or sway people on the fence. Do you have any ideas either? I mean apart from putting parental locks on grandpas' television
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Nov 8, 2018 21:14
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Do you have any ideas either? Restoring the fairness doctrine and requiring FOX to register itself as a news company which is broadcasting news would be good first steps. We also desperately need the FCC to be headed up by people who have an actual interest in doing things the FCC was established to do.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:15
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Is there anything about Florida elections that isn't completely insane
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Nov 8, 2018 21:16
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I am nowhere close to a lawyer but isn't a law like this unconstitutional? I'd appreciate eke out or evilweasel to weigh in on this. It's one thing if the voter screws up and gets their vote disqualified for whatever reason, but in this case the voters did nothing wrong and their votes would not be counted due to government incompetence. This seems like blatant codified disenfranchisement rather than *wink-wink* *nudge-nudge* disenfranchisement that other laws like photo id aim to accomplish. Mind_Taker fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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Nov 8, 2018 21:16
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Do you have any ideas either? What if we played into the Republican's game, and eliminated health care for the non-wealthy entirely. That would make each year a 5%-10% attrition rate in Republican voters, which should only take a single presidential term to totally eliminate the republican base....
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Nov 8, 2018 21:16
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mistaya posted:No one wants to see leftist violence, (INCLUDING ME) I don't think this is true for everyone in this thread and forum.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:16
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A chain of right-wing terror attacks directly inspired by Carlson and his ilk, let's devote time and resources to making nazi propagandists a protected class. https://twitter.com/AP/status/1060623258561724416  Poor widdle Tucker Carlson all defenseless and vulnerable
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Nov 8, 2018 21:16
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enraged_camel posted:who does fox news go to after murdoch dies? Depending on which media report you read, it seems like he's stepped away from FN pretty hard around the time of Bill O and Roger Ailes. I think his plan was to do that anyway but obviously with the increased media scrutiny it worked out. He does have two failsons Lachlan and...James I think? One of them wants to modernize FN and drag it more toward the middle and the other wants to keep it more like it is...so the media reports have noted some tension between the two. They were also the sons who handled the upcoming Disney/Fox merger.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:17
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Right wing media is only part of the problem. The rest of the issue is mainstream outlets allow their messaging to be dominated by whatever the right is howling about. The Caravans, EMAILS, or the 2014 Ebola outbreak are examples of this.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:17
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Mind_Taker posted:I am nowhere close to a lawyer but isn't a law like this unconstitutional? I'd appreciate eke out or evilweasel to weigh in on this. Republican's didn't stack the SC so that they'd have to keep pussyfooting around with appearances anymore.....
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Nov 8, 2018 21:17
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Radish posted:Tucker is trying the typical trick of trying to equivocate ANY response to his actions as violent in order to create the impression he's the civil one and everyone else is bad. It's the Calm Hilter cartoon in real life and don't fall for it.  The only thing that offended Two-Buck Tuck is that there was some kind of practical repercussion to his words and actions. Until last night he was yelling into a void and just hearing applause in return.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:17
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Brony Car posted:Basically, as long as Fox News and Sinclair Media exist, the GOP can easily rile up its base or sway people on the fence. There’s no money for a network that could potentially tell them the truth in a way that would resonate for them because it would be an indictment of the ruling class that spans both parties to do so. MSNBC isn’t the antidote; a network of the most charismatic men and women you can find at meat processing plants, auto body shops and fast food joints is. There are TV ready telegenic people in every socioeconomic class. Charismatic, attractive, well spoken and funny. The poor ones are absolutely not allowed on TV except by accident, or if they agree to sell out.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:17
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Still trying to think of good signs for the protests tonight. “Where’s my receipt for Holy Hell?!” “No Justice, No Peace” “The Prez is covered in Cheeto Dust and his Brain is Swiss Cheese” “Don’t let him get away!” “I got feathers if you got tar” “1 month to do something useful, Mark (Sanford)” Help me spitball here.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:18
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Ague Proof posted:The defeated judge who got so mad that he became good has gone AWOL. Anti-Judge Dredd is on the loose
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Nov 8, 2018 21:18
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Office Pig posted:A chain of right-wing terror attacks directly inspired by Carlson and his ilk, let's devote time and resources to making nazi propagandists a protected class. ... under what definition would it possibly be a hate crime?
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Nov 8, 2018 21:18
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Do you have any ideas either? Are there browser plugins that redirect right wing sites to something else? You can also use router based blocks. I have no problems with using technology against our elders in this way.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:18
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The unspoken context here is that left (and right) wing revolutionary activities - that often begin with protests like this - end in violence and that violence is often targeted at innocent people. That isn't a comment on whether this protest is a legitimate tactic or not.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:18
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Brony Car posted:Basically, as long as Fox News and Sinclair Media exist, the GOP can easily rile up its base or sway people on the fence. It’s a tough problem to solve. How do you break people out of a propaganda bubble they put themselves in? There are a few solutions I can think of: 1) Create more laws and regulation that make it illegal to lie to people posing as a news source and/or expanding hate speech penalties. Probably never going to happen because the freeze peach messaging would be too easy. 2) Find a left wing Mercer/Murdoch and convince them to fund a propaganda machine for Democrats like the Republicans have. Probably not going to happen, but maybe someone will be pissed enough at the fascists/racists to do it. 3) Massive boycott campaign, also backed by left leaning politicians and community organizers. Come down hard against ANY advertiser that gives a single penny to Fox News, any of the Sinclair stations, OAN, etc. This is probably the most likely to work of my three ideas. Assholes like the Mercers will probably keep funding a solid chunk of the brain worms factories, but their reach and influence can be severely mitigated at least.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:19
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Mendrian posted:... under what definition would it possibly be a hate crime? Someone committed a crime against a hateful racist, i think.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:19
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political ideology being a protected class is extremely stupid.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:19
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Mind_Taker posted:I am nowhere close to a lawyer but isn't a law like this unconstitutional? I'd appreciate eke out or evilweasel to weigh in on this.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:20
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Mendrian posted:... under what definition would it possibly be a hate crime? Inconveniencing a rich white man, the most egregious hate crime of all
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Nov 8, 2018 21:21
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selec posted:There’s no money for a network that could potentially tell them the truth in a way that would resonate for them because it would be an indictment of the ruling class that spans both parties to do so. Oh, like Mike Rowe? 
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Nov 8, 2018 21:21
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Triskelli posted:Still trying to think of good signs for the protests tonight. "Down with this sort of thing"
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Nov 8, 2018 21:22
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Groovelord Neato posted:political ideology being a protected class is extremely stupid. Like, communist witch hunts were definitely a real thing, but the "Perhaps you're the real bigot for not tolerating conservative bigotry" is the most tired retort in existence.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:22
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Ginsburg breaking any bone at her age could be a problem
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Nov 8, 2018 21:22
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Mendrian posted:... under what definition would it possibly be a hate crime? in dc political affiliation is a protected class.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:22
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Bicyclops posted:Like, communist witch hunts were definitely a real thing, but the "Perhaps you're the real bigot for not tolerating conservative bigotry" is the most tired retort in existence. So? This thread just proved it works.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:23
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Triskelli posted:Still trying to think of good signs for the protests tonight. Print this as a giant poster:
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Nov 8, 2018 21:25
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I hate Tucker Carlson and I support crimes.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:25
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Groovelord Neato posted:political ideology being a protected class is extremely stupid. It’s amazing because it’s almost completely transparent in its intent to protect white supremacists. If someone’s house was firebombed because they are communist the police wouldn’t even think about trying to label it a hate crime.
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Nov 8, 2018 21:25
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Mendrian posted:... under what definition would it possibly be a hate crime? Cops consider fellow Nazis to be a protected class
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Bicyclops posted:Like, communist witch hunts were definitely a real thing, but the "Perhaps you're the real bigot for not tolerating conservative bigotry" is the most tired retort in existence. Making protected classes be protected period and not "just the good ones" is a good thing unless they let you be in charge of exactly picking who the good ones are. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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enraged_camel posted:who does fox news go to after murdoch dies? Is it going to matter?
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