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playing a support in solo queue atm is fun because you win every single fight you take part in, because supports are actually extremely powerful, but the other lanes are all dying 1v1 while you're not there so it's literally impossible to win regardless of how impactful you personally are 
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support is easily top 3 most impactful role.
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Nov 9, 2018 08:40
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You could argue its the most important role at the moment. Junglers have had the rug pulled out from underneath them, mid doesn't carry as hard as it used to, botlaners are facing 4 enemies from level 3 onward. The rise of carry tops over dog champs probably puts them in second - its a real win lane win game place at the moment
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Nov 9, 2018 09:04
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Oh hey they finally did the thing I've been wanting them to do for years ie give you a 2nd win in your third attempt at a rank promos. It doesn't just give you the next rank for free if you do it again does it?
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Nov 9, 2018 09:59
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el dingo posted:You could argue its the most important role at the moment. Junglers have had the rug pulled out from underneath them, mid doesn't carry as hard as it used to, botlaners are facing 4 enemies from level 3 onward. Bot is still more important in my experience, just because if you start snowballing, there's more targets to kill. It's super anecdotal but I was unable to carry a game as a snowballing Fiora top lane because for every one kill I got top, the enemy Vayne got two in bot.
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Nov 9, 2018 10:04
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marksmen cant really snowball from kills the way more bursty champions can. if you kill then you get more cs and lane priority but you cant really impact other lanes too much
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Nov 9, 2018 11:29
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el dingo posted:You could argue its the most important role at the moment. Junglers have had the rug pulled out from underneath them, mid doesn't carry as hard as it used to, botlaners are facing 4 enemies from level 3 onward. I think jungle is the most impactful but the caveat is that you can only play like 3 champs (xin, Camille, and maybe jax or nidalee)
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Nov 9, 2018 11:36
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yeah that's 7 losses in a row of which 2 are actually meaningfully my fault (one where i fed out of my mind on pyke and the other where i picked a character that wasn't viktor into top viktor and had to play against top viktor) http://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=das+kappatal (so you can find replays and tell me i'm Just A Bad Player, i guess)
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Nov 9, 2018 11:47
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 Not bad considering I spammed ~40-50 games last minute from S3 0LP after basically not playing for like a year. My teammates all laughed at me for picking nasus into darius but then the 30 minute mark happened Monicro fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Nov 9, 2018 |
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Nov 9, 2018 11:49
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Slaapaav posted:marksmen cant really snowball from kills the way more bursty champions can. if you kill then you get more cs and lane priority but you cant really impact other lanes too much Play Ashe. Or just get your team to force team fights if you're ahead on an adc.
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Nov 9, 2018 13:59
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How do I Kindred? With most other junglers I can at least do ok enough to not throw on a regular basis, but I can't seem to wrap my head around this one.
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Nov 9, 2018 14:53
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Big McHuge posted:How do I Kindred? With most other junglers I can at least do ok enough to not throw on a regular basis, but I can't seem to wrap my head around this one. Make sure you press R instead of the alternative (not pressing R)
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Nov 9, 2018 15:04
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You know, after watching that K/DA video a few more times, it's actually really great.
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Nov 9, 2018 15:30
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It's good because its production quality and songwriting choices are basically anything but Kpop, it could have easily been a Charli XCX or Fifth Harmony song Like it's just a western pop song with some Korean lyrics, it's really really well made also goes to show you that with artists like Lil Pump and mumble rap, lyrics are basically not important anymore
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Nov 9, 2018 15:55
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fatal oopsie-daisy posted:It's good because its production quality and songwriting choices are basically anything but Kpop, it could have easily been a Charli XCX or Fifth Harmony song Yeah I totally agree with this. Also I am the walrus is one of the greatest pop songs ever written so I'm not sure lyrics ever mattered.
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Nov 9, 2018 16:22
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Slaapaav posted:support is easily top 3 most impactful role. Not at the moment. Support's only really impactful right now if you have the opportunity to pressure mid early or invade with your jungler. Sitting bot and babysitting Kai'Sa for 15 minutes is a coinflip as to whether your other lanes do well or not. I'd put order of importance at something like: Top = Mid > Jungle > Support > Bot. The current meta is a really weird inverse of the past three seasons. Aside from a few strong early scaling ADCs (Lucian, Klepto Ez, Dark Harvest MF), every other ADC needs 2.5 - 3 items before they can even begin to teamfight effectively. Even when they do get 3 items, they're still in constant danger of getting instantly blown up by any one of the numerous strong divers or assassins in the meta. Teamfights are usually a game of rocket tag because of the near total lack of good frontline in the meta. The best you can hope for is maybe an Alistar/Braum and a Sion/Poppy from top, but that's comparatively rare. It's a situation that doesn't favor ADC in the slightest, and that means that support's comparative strength as a position is diminished.
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Vermain posted:It's a situation that doesn't favor ADC in the slightest, and that means that support's comparative strength as a position is diminished.
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Nov 9, 2018 18:29
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Chris de Sperg posted:removing sightstone as a buyable item was lowkey the biggest long-term balance mistake riot's made in a long, long time Other than completely messing with Lee Sin, why do you think this is? I like the current meta a lot, I think it's a lot more enjoyable to play and watch than the game has been in a long time.
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Nov 9, 2018 18:40
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Chris de Sperg posted:removing sightstone as a buyable item was lowkey the biggest long-term balance mistake riot's made in a long, long time I'm not nearly good enough to agree or disagree with this but i really miss sightstone
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Nov 9, 2018 18:41
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alas - the role i play is the hardest and also least important one
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Nov 9, 2018 18:42
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its very cool how removing all the ninjas and samurais would make the game much better for everyone except for the broke brains who play those condemnable archetypes, whom can be safely ignored for their perfidy
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Nov 9, 2018 18:43
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Assassins need to be all reworked or removed. It’s real cool having so much mobility on one dude but they’re either gods or useless they can’t balance them for poo poo. But I could say the same for bruisers too so hire me Riot I won’t even try sexually harass anyone.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:10
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Sexpansion posted:Other than completely messing with Lee Sin, why do you think this is?
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Nov 9, 2018 19:33
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They’re reasoning was that junglers couldn’t ever tank cause of all the wards that were there. Which is true. I can see the argument for both sides but being a support I’ll lean towards gimme all the vision I can handle cause nobody else will.
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Nov 9, 2018 20:31
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What do you guys think of Zyra mid? I main her as support and I have been trying her mid lately in normals. I have been doing great, getting S's. My last game was 11/0/2. I know she's not in the meta mid right now, though.
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Nov 9, 2018 20:49
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I'm going to say that top lane is far more influential now than people think. If you can win its easy to get first tower then snag the rift herald. That will let you easily get another tower then just snowball from there. Fighty top laners are good right now and hard tanks are kind of meh.
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Nov 9, 2018 20:51
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The Dregs posted:What do you guys think of Zyra mid? I main her as support and I have been trying her mid lately in normals. I have been doing great, getting S's. My last game was 11/0/2. I know she's not in the meta mid right now, though. It probably would work fine in any elo people here are playing in.
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Nov 9, 2018 21:11
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Invalid Validation posted:Assassins need to be all reworked or removed. It’s real cool having so much mobility on one dude but they’re either gods or useless they can’t balance them for poo poo. But I could say the same for bruisers too so hire me Riot I won’t even try sexually harass anyone. That's literally the point of assassins, though.
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Nov 9, 2018 21:45
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The Dregs posted:What do you guys think of Zyra mid? I main her as support and I have been trying her mid lately in normals. I have been doing great, getting S's. My last game was 11/0/2. I know she's not in the meta mid right now, though. No roam potential or mobility, no kill pressure, some really bad matchups against decent or good players, early mana problems. Terrible when behind. Nightmarish when shoved under turret by an Ahri or Azir. If you can land a combo, that’s cool, but you also put yourself at a lot of risk doing so and you don’t even push the lane as well as other champs. If you’re going to play Zyra mid you should probably just play Xerath because he’s an easier, better version of the same thing and has some small amount of side lane pressure.
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Nov 9, 2018 21:50
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fatal oopsie-daisy posted:No roam potential or mobility, no kill pressure, some really bad matchups against decent or good players, early mana problems. Terrible when behind. Nightmarish when shoved under turret by an Ahri or Azir. I've never tried Xerath. I'll check him out. thank you. I think I am doing so well with her because I know her backwards and forwards.
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Nov 9, 2018 21:52
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The Dregs posted:I've never tried Xerath. I'll check him out. thank you. I think I am doing so well with her because I know her backwards and forwards. That's way more important than the champ itself being powerful, really. If you know zyra, you are enjoying zyra, and are doing well with zyra then gently caress it, play zyra.
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Nov 9, 2018 22:00
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Most people who climb do it by getting really good at 1 or 2 champs, honestly. Knowing all the matchups inside and out makes up for a lot.
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Nov 9, 2018 22:04
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bros.... its happening https://twitter.com/loltyler1/status/1061011357590605829
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Nov 9, 2018 22:44
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A champion you know like the back of your hand is always going to be more effective than whatever is in the meta right now. Even ignoring he fun factor.
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Nov 9, 2018 22:47
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frajaq posted:bros.... its happening Someone might want to let him know Spring 2018 is already done. Unless he's a time wizard.
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Nov 10, 2018 00:57
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It's Spring in the southern hemisphere 
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Nov 10, 2018 01:22
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Is there a way to cheese the last watch and earn quest or should I just leave a couple vods running in a tab
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Nov 10, 2018 03:01
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Monicro posted:Is there a way to cheese the last watch and earn quest or should I just leave a couple vods running in a tab Aren't they the same thing
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Nov 10, 2018 03:23
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Listen that would take like, a full hour or so. i need to find a way to circumvent that
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RealFoxy posted:My favorite part of the end of this season has been playing Vayne Spotting, but extended to every role but support where all players are ACTUALLY masters smurfs despite sitting at a ~50% win rate and a 1.4 KDA on their "main" champion. But of course, they're playing off role. Normally they're a Zed main in Masters but they're only feeding in the Jungle because they're not used to it. you joke but i legit drop like 2 tiers of skill if i get put in mid lane, i loving suck at mid lane
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