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CelestialScribe posted:[Ocasio Cortez shitpost] Republicans call her financially illiterate when they love Mr TRADE IS BAD and trade wars are easy to win. I'm even more done with Republicans and their election theft and bad faith. 
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Ither posted:Can we go back to having a separate Trump thread? Just use suck chat as exercise for your ignore button and you'll mostly fix the problem.
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Nov 9, 2018 14:57
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Quorum posted:Yeah, the Republican playbook since 2010 has been "label doing everything they want the way they want 'bipartisan,' nakedly wield whatever power you have, look wide-eyed and innocent whenever anyone complains and ask them why they hate America." Whether or not you think House Democratic leadership intends to do the latter two things, we haven't actually gotten to that point yet since it's not January, so all we've got is the first part and that's indistinguishable from actually planning to make yooge deals. I think the past 10 years in which Obama meant "bipartisan" to include "cuts to Social Security larger than the ones Republicans are requesting" have obliterated any hope that any Democrat is playing nth-dimensional chess with the word "bipartisan", even if Pelosi wasn't involved in that incident
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Nov 9, 2018 14:59
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So Sinema actually pulled it off?
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marshmonkey posted:This thread perfectly illustrates why it’s futile to debate conservatives, chiefly that their “beliefs” will shift to suit their need to troll you: https://twitter.com/AmandaMarcotte/status/1060511898347692032 This is a good point, that has been made for decades, but still worth remembering. I would sacrifice a small child if Twitter would just make it automatically collect "tweet threads" into a single long post or if people would just post a link to a blogspot or Medium post instead. Scrolling through 18 chained tweets, with random replies and replies to replies in the middle of the flow, is obnoxious. Twitter very obviously was not made for that type of content and can't display it in a readable and concise way.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So Sinema actually pulled it off? Being that the only poo poo outstanding is absentee ballots, yeah, I'd say so.
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Nov 9, 2018 15:00
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So Sinema actually pulled it off? Probably, based on where there are still votes left to count. Which makes me feel a lot better about Tuesday, when we all thought Tester and Sinema were toast and the grand total would be R+4. Keeping it to R+2 (and maybe R+1 if Nelson's recount shows there was a misread in South Florida, but don't hold your breath) makes 2020 a much easier lift.
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Nov 9, 2018 15:02
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Ms Adequate posted:Except that we already have abundant evidence that us Millennials are far more progressive than preceding generations and that, so far, the Gen Zs are making even us look like loving Pinochet. The environment we've all grown up in has fundamentally soured us on right wing economics because the Great Recession annihilated us so hard our kids are hosed too, and on social issues we're about ten minutes out from demanding mandatory transitioning and discovering the Gay Gene so we can give it to everyone. There's plenty of noisy loving nazis and other edgelords out there, and we sure as hell have to take them seriously, but don't mistake them being noisy fuckers with them being numerous. Millennials overall are more progressive than preceding generations, but white millennials still voted for Trump and lean GOP. The Millennial generation is just more progressive because it is less white (and the whites are slightly more liberal than before) and not because of any grand ideological shift.
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Nov 9, 2018 15:03
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reignonyourparade posted:What the gently caress are you even saying? That dozens of people have died over the past two years, in part because the president stirs up anger and resentment and it causes an atmosphere that encourages violence.
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Nov 9, 2018 15:03
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At some point yesterday someone posted a good take-down/analysis of that godawful "I'll still be your friend no matter who you vote for" meme. Anyone have that link handy?
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Nov 9, 2018 15:04
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Millennials overall are more progressive than preceding generations, but white millennials still voted for Trump and lean GOP. Yeah, even white millenials trend *slightly* more left wing than other white folks, though even part of that effect is because of young white women, not so much millenial white men).
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Nov 9, 2018 15:05
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Give me that fukkin Don Jr indictment already
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Nov 9, 2018 15:06
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If Sinema pulls it out, then we will have a sitting gay, sitting bisexual, and sitting heterosexual Senator serving simultaneously. We just need to shoot for an aromantic asexual in 2020 and we'll have representation of every sexuality in the U.S. Senate.
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Nov 9, 2018 15:06
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:If Sinema pulls it out, then we will have a sitting gay, sitting bisexual, and sitting heterosexual Senator serving simultaneously. Trump is legit probably asexual, going by rumors about his bedroom shenanigans.
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Nov 9, 2018 15:07
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smoobles posted:Give me that fukkin Don Jr indictment already Yeah, what's the over/under on some poo poo happening? Do we have any proof stuff will come down the pipe sometime today?
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Nov 9, 2018 15:09
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Deified Data posted:Trump is legit probably asexual, going by rumors about his bedroom shenanigans. Nah, just impotent. Being a human balloon made of McDonalds, spite, and dementia will do that for you.
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Nov 9, 2018 15:09
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Deified Data posted:Trump is legit probably asexual, going by rumors about his bedroom shenanigans. Trump isn't a Senator, though. And I don't know if someone who has paid multiple porn stars to have sex with him, had 3 wives (one of whom he divorced because she stopped having sex after an illness and childbirth), and creeps around in the Miss America dressing room is likely to be asexual.
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Deified Data posted:Trump is legit probably asexual, going by rumors about his bedroom shenanigans. he's not asexual he's just hosed up
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Quorum posted:Probably, based on where there are still votes left to count. Which makes me feel a lot better about Tuesday, when we all thought Tester and Sinema were toast and the grand total would be R+4. Keeping it to R+2 (and maybe R+1 if Nelson's recount shows there was a misread in South Florida, but don't hold your breath) makes 2020 a much easier lift. It really irks me that because the results in NV/AZ/WI came in late all the pundit hot takes about this being an "okay" night for Dems instead of a good one are what people will remember. If we end up winning one or both of the Florida recounts it'll pretty much be the best night we could've reasonably hoped for.
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Nov 9, 2018 15:09
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axeil posted:It really irks me that because the results in NV/AZ/WI came in late all the pundit hot takes about this being an "okay" night for Dems instead of a good one are what people will remember. But Beto lost so... pfffft, try again next time DEMS edit: seriously Beto owns and his campaign loving changed the political landscape of Texas and I hope to see him again.
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Nov 9, 2018 15:14
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Chilichimp posted:But Beto lost so... pfffft, try again next time DEMS Sadly he can't run for governor next year, which would have been the best thing
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Nov 9, 2018 15:17
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:he's not asexual he's just hosed up Yeah he isn’t asexual. It’s more that it’s a power thing and now his toad dick don’t work.
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Nov 9, 2018 15:18
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Demon Of The Fall posted:Yeah, what's the over/under on some poo poo happening? Do we have any proof stuff will come down the pipe sometime today? 7.5. The over/under is 7.5.
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Nov 9, 2018 15:19
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Chilichimp posted:But Beto lost so... pfffft, try again next time DEMS His best role may be texas dem party chair or DNC chair.
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Nov 9, 2018 15:20
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If it's true that the Mueller team is beginning to write the final report, then are all the indictments etc done?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:This is a good point, that has been made for decades, but still worth remembering. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1060511898347692032.html
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Nov 9, 2018 15:22
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Demon Of The Fall posted:Yeah, what's the over/under on some poo poo happening? Do we have any proof stuff will come down the pipe sometime today? DC rumor mill is that Mueller is about to gay marry Guiliani
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Nov 9, 2018 15:22
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:
I think you are overlooking a bunch of overton window shifting type stuff, current republicans are monstrous ghouls on virtually every issue but they are still kinda softer on a lot of it than what was just mainstream two generations ago. Like the republican platform is monstrous evil on racism, sexism, homophobia, etc but like, even britebart or something would be seen as being pretty progressive if you time traveled it back a pretty small number of generations. Like 40% of republicans support gay marriage now. And whatever bajillion percent want marijuana legalization, even kids on the right are more progressive on lots of issues than their grandfathers, even if they are still holding objectively evil regressive opinions. Like there is definitely young republicans that are drooling about old conservative issues and it's not like the window could never slide back, but like you don't have olde timey conservative ideas like coverture getting big mainstream republican support, even if you still have general awful regressive ideas about women. Kids are more progressive now, even the regressive ones.
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Your Taint posted:If it's true that the Mueller team is beginning to write the final report, then are all the indictments etc done? We don't know and won't know until it happens.
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Nov 9, 2018 15:23
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Topsail HS active shooter was a false alarm: https://www.wral.com/law-enforcement-officers-called-to-topsail-high-school-for-active-shooter-report-says/17981565/
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Your Taint posted:If it's true that the Mueller team is beginning to write the final report, then are all the indictments etc done? I put that up there with Jr getting perp walked. Believe it when I see it.
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https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1060898944581033985
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Koalas Massacre posted:We don't know and won't know until it happens. I guess to me, it stands to reason that if they're writing the final report then they have all the evidence and if there was more to indict on they'd have done it by now, otherwise why start writing the final report if there's still more to do?
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A source close to an involved party says that rather than a report, Mueller is actually writing a detailed apology to the president.
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Chilichimp posted:But Beto lost so... pfffft, try again next time DEMS As the Pod Save America guys pointed out Beto, Abrams and Gillum all did way better running leftist campaigns than Heitkamp, Donnelly and McCaskill did running mushy centrist campaigns. Manchin and Tester were the only centrists that won and I think that was more about them knowing their states well than their positions.
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Your Taint posted:If it's true that the Mueller team is beginning to write the final report, then are all the indictments etc done? All we have on this front is yet another unsubstantiated "sources say" from CNN. Until Mueller's team says it, you shouldn't believe anything regarding his actions or intentions.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Kids are more progressive now, even the regressive ones. Counterpoint: with the exception of the Vegas shooter, iirc our most recent domestic terrorists have been millennials. I think it's a big (and dangerous) mistake to lean too much on the "young people are more progressive" trope. Especially when it seems to be more like "they support progress for white people"
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This is the first Friday after the elections and with the new acting attorney general. A big indictment today would make killing the investigation in the short term downright radioactive, especially if it requires the acting AG to straight up say "No, we're not going to prosecute Donald Trump Jr. for reasons we're not going to disclose."
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Koalas Massacre posted:Counterpoint: with the exception of the Vegas shooter, iirc our most recent domestic terrorists have been millennials.
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Koalas Massacre posted:Counterpoint: with the exception of the Vegas shooter, iirc our most recent domestic terrorists have been millennials. These can both be the case and are not mutually exclusive, if more young people are progressive and the non-progressive ones are more violent.
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