Dick Trauma posted:

I've never seen photos like these before. I can easily picture Trump's supporters doing the same thing.

https://twitter.com/ElishevaAvital/status/1060914913328148480

EDIT: Thread Reader version... https://twitter.com/threadreaderapp/status/1060940413064884226

Skex posted:

I don't actually agree with the former as I think that accepting that premise is accepting the Republican framing that the ideas that they tie to her are actually bad things that we should be running from rather than on.

On the second, I'm hoping that she grafts AOC and several other of the new young women in congress to her hip and starts their master class on how to herd cats and terrorize elephants (the Republican kind not real elephants which are awesome and cool). Cortez would be an excellent choice for grooming in my opinion given her age and that she comes from a very very solid Democratic stronghold she could be a political powerhouse for decades.

Sky Shadowing posted:

My opinion of GWB has admittedly swung from evil to well-meaning but incompetent, ineffective, misguided, and completely unaware of the realities of the country and its people. A bad president but not pure evil. I wouldn't say my opinion of him is positive, but he tried to be a good president and failed.

Like, I think GWB is capable of empathy, like he'd sit there and be able to sympathize with a parent about losing their child. Trump would just make fun of them for crying and call them an idiot liberal for asking for gun control and tell them their child didn't want to live enough or they'd be alive.

evilweasel posted:

i still do not get what the hell is going on where the murdoch-owned WSJ keeps breaking these stories. is there some floor with actual journalists that none of the executives have managed to find and fire everyone on?

Ague Proof posted:

Bio: "Undocumented gynecologist"



Trump won't be able to vote for himself if it's the clock test and he has to identify the camel.


You were right the first time. Sure, GWB isn't a weird freak like Trump, but that's not exculpatory. That's an extremely low bar. Trump hasn't started a war yet.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

Diversity in portfolio or some poo poo. Make money on both sides of the fence.

Taintrunner posted:

Ague Proof posted:

You were right the first time. Sure, GWB isn't a weird freak like Trump, but that's not exculpatory. That's an extremely low bar. Trump hasn't started a war yet.

Sorus posted:

https://twitter.com/BenCardinforMD/status/1060911500305616896

Our friend Ben.

Sky Shadowing posted:

My opinion of GWB has admittedly swung from evil to well-meaning but incompetent, ineffective, misguided, and completely unaware of the realities of the country and its people. A bad president but not pure evil. I wouldn't say my opinion of him is positive, but he tried to be a good president and failed.

Like, I think GWB is capable of empathy, like he'd sit there and be able to sympathize with a parent about losing their child. Trump would just make fun of them for crying and call them an idiot liberal for asking for gun control and tell them their child didn't want to live enough or they'd be alive.

evilweasel posted:

i still do not get what the hell is going on where the murdoch-owned WSJ keeps breaking these stories. is there some floor with actual journalists that none of the executives have managed to find and fire everyone on?

Spacebump posted:

Any idea what the timeline would be until we know the results of Fl?

Gorka posted:

Dab on them haters

Skex posted:

I "love" how most of the "leftists" in the Dems are bad Brigade rely largely on repeating and reinforcing Right Wing Framing. Here's a hint, there is a reason why the Right absolutely hates and uses Nancy Pelosi as their political chew toy of choice and it's not because she's too centrist. It's because she's effective and the last loving thing the left needs to be doing at this point is jettisoning effective leaders because the Republicans say poo poo.

We're currently fighting a war for the survival of the Human species. It's well loving past time for people to drop petty differences and focus on the common foe, that foe is the regressive forces of ignorance that characterizes the political right. Know your loving enemy and stop engaging in friendly fire. We're running out of time and all of the time and energy that's devoted to the circular firing squad is energy and time that could be focused on that actual enemy.

We're what maybe 10 years from experiencing food shortages as a result of climate change? 20 from mass famine and migrations world wide. Hell if anything Climate Change advocates and scientists are not being alarmist enough regarding how bad things are going to be. This crisis would be bad enough if it just came down to arguing over the best way to address and mitigate the issue, yet we're still stuck fighting against people who not only don't accept it as a threat but are actively encouraging more of the activities that created and intensify the problem to begin with for no obvious reason than to upset those of us who do believe in it.

I'm sorry this is more important than whatever you think is the most important issue facing us politically because if we don't address this particular problem there won't be anyone around to even experience those other issues. At this point you are either a part of the solution or you are part of the problem. If your answer to Trump and the GOP is to blame the Democrats and sit on your rear end or actively undermine Democrats then you are a part of the loving problem and are just as bad as the Republicans. Whether the Democrats are good is irrelevant. because as imperfect as they may be they are currently the most effective weapon that we in the United States have that can be used to thwart the suicide pact that the Republican Party is.

eke out posted:

here's new reporting

https://twitter.com/AndreaWNYC/status/1060957944706224130

Squalid posted:

WSJ was also involved in uncovering Elizabeth Holmes' fraud at Theranos, despite Murdoch being heavily invested in the company. Holmes even personally begged Murdoch squash their investigation, a request he declined. I think he's tried to keep a fair bit of editorial independence at the paper. Anyway Trump scandals sell and that's the most important thing isn't it? If WSJ didn't cover it it would just leak to another paper.

GoluboiOgon posted:

considering that AOC unseated crowley, who was the person pelosi was grooming as her replacement, i suspect that there will be a lot of bad blood between them.

evilweasel posted:

yeah but the WSJ exists to support the republican party, publishing the occasional legitimate story to polish their 'journalist' bona fides is one thing, breaking news that eventually lead to the president's lawyer going to jail and flipping on trump and his mistress getting released from her nda seems like the sort that everyone in charge at the WSJ would have tried to bury.

like, a story skewering some no-name republican house rep as corrupt is one thing, attacks on trump himself are so odd coming out of the WSJ i really don't know what to make of it

Ague Proof posted:

https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1060954367891816448

GoluboiOgon posted:

considering that AOC unseated crowley, who was the person pelosi was grooming as her replacement, i suspect that there will be a lot of bad blood between them.

Taintrunner posted:

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Your overall point is generally right, but that is a picture of a woman after two suicide bombs went off from the Badr Organization, which was founded in 1982 and has been using suicide bombs in Iraq for almost 20 years before the Iraq War started.

Sky Shadowing posted:

My opinion of GWB has admittedly swung from evil to well-meaning but incompetent, ineffective, misguided, and completely unaware of the realities of the country and its people. A bad president but not pure evil. I wouldn't say my opinion of him is positive, but he tried to be a good president and failed.

Like, I think GWB is capable of empathy, like he'd sit there and be able to sympathize with a parent about losing their child. Trump would just make fun of them for crying and call them an idiot liberal for asking for gun control and tell them their child didn't want to live enough or they'd be alive.

GreyjoyBastard posted:

oh nooooooooooooooooo

twice burned ice posted:

worstpersonyouknow.onion

Office Pig posted:

Just last year he was out there campaigning for Ed "MS-13" Gillespie and even in 2018 went whole-hog on getting Rapist McBeerstein onto the Supreme Court so even within the dreadfully limited memory of the electorate this is plain wrong.

Au Revoir Shosanna posted:

Worth noting that Trump appears to have violated campaign finance laws with this.

That said:
https://twitter.com/SteveKopack/status/1060960070299803648

Mince Pieface posted:

Trump decided to import something from China afterall

https://twitter.com/melissakchan/status/1060531575492935680?s=19

Skex posted:

Pelosi is a grown up I'm not worried about that. Unlike many "leftists" here Pelosi knows who the real enemy is.

Skex posted:

Pelosi is a grown up I'm not worried about that. Unlike many "leftists" here Pelosi knows who the real enemy is.

quote:

She also reiterated she was willing to work on a bipartisan basis with Mr. Trump. "I worked very productively with President Bush when we had the majority and he had the presidency," she said, referring to the first time she became House speaker, in 2006.

"We will strive for bipartisanship. We believe that we have a responsibility to seek common ground where we can. Where we cannot must stand our ground, but we must try," she added.

Mince Pieface posted:

Trump decided to import something from China afterall

https://twitter.com/melissakchan/status/1060531575492935680?s=19

evilweasel posted:

I think that AOC is a phenomenal political talent, but I think she'd be better in a more public-facing role than in a House leadership role (whose primary job is hearding cats internally, raising money, and other stuff that's not really about galvanizing public support). I'm not sure what that role would be, but I don't think House leadership is it. For an example, I like Senator Warren far, far more than i like Senator Schumer, but I prefer Schumer as majority leader and Warren as someone who doesn't have to play nice with Manchin or other red state dems.

Iron Twinkie posted:

It's "true" that both that self proclaimed leftists and the right hate Nancy Pelosi because she is a representative from "San Fransisco."

On the right, San Fransisco is an evil place. The only white people are hippies and they are the minority. The streets are filled with 1970s pimps, drag queens, illegal immigrant MS13 gang members, and Al Qaeda terrorists. Only the last two groups are allowed to vote. Guns, the Bible, and soft drinks larger than 6 oz have been banned. Children there start everyday pledging allegiance on a Koran to destroy capitalism and the white race. Nancy Pelosi represents San Fransisco as it exists in the Ambien fueled nightmares of Fox News and is the right's enemy.

On the left, San Fransisco is an evil place. The tech industry has turned it into one of the most unequal places in the country. Homelessness is rampant. Gentrification is pushing the poor and working class out of a place they've called home for decades. It's unique culture and character replaced with empty, sterile, corporatism. There is a vast divide between the haves and have nots in that city and that divide is ever growing. As Congresses top corporate fundraiser and with a net worth of hundreds of millions of dollars, it's clear which side of that divide Pelosi represents. Nancy Pelosi represents San Fransisco as it exists as a triumph of capitalism over the rights, health, and well being of it's own citizens and is the left's enemy.

I hope this helps.

Blind Rasputin posted:

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1060960329876697088?s=21

Lol ok