Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Those signs are ironic. It’s the most obvious thing in the world.

TulliusCicero posted:

Lock up who you complete dipshits?

I love how Hillary lives rent free in all chud brains.

Skex posted:

I "love" how most of the "leftists" in the Dems are bad Brigade rely largely on repeating and reinforcing Right Wing Framing. Here's a hint, there is a reason why the Right absolutely hates and uses Nancy Pelosi as their political chew toy of choice and it's not because she's too centrist. It's because she's effective and the last loving thing the left needs to be doing at this point is jettisoning effective leaders because the Republicans say poo poo.

We're currently fighting a war for the survival of the Human species. It's well loving past time for people to drop petty differences and focus on the common foe, that foe is the regressive forces of ignorance that characterizes the political right. Know your loving enemy and stop engaging in friendly fire. We're running out of time and all of the time and energy that's devoted to the circular firing squad is energy and time that could be focused on that actual enemy.

We're what maybe 10 years from experiencing food shortages as a result of climate change? 20 from mass famine and migrations world wide. Hell if anything Climate Change advocates and scientists are not being alarmist enough regarding how bad things are going to be. This crisis would be bad enough if it just came down to arguing over the best way to address and mitigate the issue, yet we're still stuck fighting against people who not only don't accept it as a threat but are actively encouraging more of the activities that created and intensify the problem to begin with for no obvious reason than to upset those of us who do believe in it.

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I'm sorry this is more important than whatever you think is the most important issue facing us politically because if we don't address this particular problem there won't be anyone around to even experience those other issues. At this point you are either a part of the solution or you are part of the problem. If your answer to Trump and the GOP is to blame the Democrats and sit on your rear end or actively undermine Democrats then you are a part of the loving problem and are just as bad as the Republicans. Whether the Democrats are good is irrelevant. because as imperfect as they may be they are currently the most effective weapon that we in the United States have that can be used to thwart the suicide pact that the Republican Party is.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Those signs are ironic. It’s the most obvious thing in the world.

Astro7x posted:

What the hell is the rush? Are there actual positions where people are set to take office this year?

Chomskyan posted:

A majority of self identified Democrats have a positive view of George W Bush

Taintrunner posted:

my bony fealty posted:

An investigation that has led to the conviction of Trump's campaign manager on several Federal charges and means he will probably die in prison: "led to nothing" according to the brokebrains here lol

evilweasel posted:

this is a lot of well-thought out posting and interpretation by a guy who definitely can understand when a sign is ironic who would never, ever miss the point

Mustached Demon posted:

"Hey look! An interracial couple!'

*Steals a handful*

eke out posted:

people need to get out and protest in the streets

no not those people in the streets right now, those are democrats, who are bad

Chomskyan posted:

A majority of self identified Democrats have a positive view of George W Bush

Deified Data posted:

Honestly kind of fine with the strict timeline in Florida if it means Scott or Desantis can't just demand a recount of the recount and take this poo poo into December if it comes up not favoring them

Thaddius the Large posted:

That largely depends on your conceptualization of the criminal justice system and the law enforcement community. For example, if you subscribe to the ideals of community oriented restorative justice by democratic organizations as apposed to a federal appointment-based institution that utilize imprisonment and have been used for political enforcement since their creation, then yeah, the FBI is fundamentally bad.

Deified Data posted:

Honestly kind of fine with the strict timeline in Florida if it means Scott or Desantis can't just demand a recount of the recount and take this poo poo into December if it comes up not favoring them

Taintrunner posted:

Politely protesting in support of an outspoken white supremacist, but like, ironically, is a new level of galaxy brain.

Civil disobedience is one thing. This is not that.

Chomskyan posted:

This is my real problem with the #resistance types. Their causes, like defending the Mueller investigation (which will lead to nothing), suck oxygen out of potential protest movements that could be impactful, and could change our society for the better. Instead they choose to use that energy to prop up wholly compromised institutions like the FBI and Justice Department

Chomskyan posted:

A majority of self identified Democrats have a positive view of George W Bush

KickerOfMice posted:

Uh is it wierd to ask for evidence of this silly claim from Trolly Trollerson?

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Most of Bush's climb back to popularity came from Democrats and independents. His favorability mark among Democrats has soared from only 11% in February 2009 to a majority 54% now.

evilweasel posted:

yeah i think that clear, strict rules on how a recount is to work are a net plus when you agree on them before you know what the results are going to be: the more clear the process is, the less room there is to manipulate it and the clearer the results are.

that said, the short deadline seems like a thumb on the scales because historically due to the fact that democrats in poorer areas are the ones with shittier voting machines, a well done recount finds more democratic votes than republicans, so a short deadline favors republicans over a slightly longer one.

Beastie posted:

Are we actually getting an indictment today or is Twitter just all spun up because Mueller is wrapping up?

Sky Shadowing posted:

My opinion of GWB has admittedly swung from evil to well-meaning but incompetent, ineffective, misguided, and completely unaware of the realities of the country and its people. A bad president but not pure evil. I wouldn't say my opinion of him is positive, but he tried to be a good president and failed.

Like, I think GWB is capable of empathy,

Party Plane Jones posted:

Majorian posted:

It was true as of the beginning of 2018:


I'm guessing it's dipped since then, but still, anything above 0% is too high.

evilweasel posted:

Mueller's grand jury meets on Fridays (today), and there is a reasonable theory that Mueller would not have issued indictments during the "quiet period" before the election, but afterwards would want to move quickly because the firing of Sessions was telegraphed way in advance. So those two things together make it reasonable to believe that there's a good chance of indictments today, but as far as I'm aware those are the only things supporting that belief, and there are no other hard facts that do (because Mueller just doesn't leak).

Sky Shadowing posted:

My opinion of GWB has admittedly swung from evil to well-meaning but incompetent, ineffective, misguided, and completely unaware of the realities of the country and its people. A bad president but not pure evil. I wouldn't say my opinion of him is positive, but he tried to be a good president and failed.

Like, I think GWB is capable of empathy, like he'd sit there and be able to sympathize with a parent about losing their child. Trump would just make fun of them for crying and call them an idiot liberal for asking for gun control and tell them their child didn't want to live enough or they'd be alive.

KickerOfMice posted:

Well, here's hoping that was just comparative thinking. drat.

eke out posted:

here's new reporting

https://twitter.com/AndreaWNYC/status/1060957944706224130

evilweasel posted:

i have some sympathy for the argument that pelosi isn't a political benefit in elections, but (a) we just won the house with her as the "face" of the party so there's no need to worry about the past; and (b) in the next election, the "face" of the party is gonna be whoever the nominee is, not pelosi, so who gives a poo poo

that said, i do think that the house leadership needs to let in new people and start grooming younger reps, and that this should probably be pelosi's last term and she should spend these two years grooming successors

Mummy Xzibit posted:

It's been a wild week.

evilweasel posted:

i still do not get what the hell is going on where the murdoch-owned WSJ keeps breaking these stories. is there some floor with actual journalists that none of the executives have managed to find and fire everyone on?

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RJGatorEsq/status/1060948350542008320

Sky Shadowing posted:

My opinion of GWB has admittedly swung from evil to well-meaning but incompetent, ineffective, misguided, and completely unaware of the realities of the country and its people. A bad president but not pure evil. I wouldn't say my opinion of him is positive, but he tried to be a good president and failed.

Like, I think GWB is capable of empathy, like he'd sit there and be able to sympathize with a parent about losing their child. Trump would just make fun of them for crying and call them an idiot liberal for asking for gun control and tell them their child didn't want to live enough or they'd be alive.

evilweasel posted:

i still do not get what the hell is going on where the murdoch-owned WSJ keeps breaking these stories. is there some floor with actual journalists that none of the executives have managed to find and fire everyone on?