moist turtleneck posted:

what the gently caress was up with the one bite peaches

Brawnfire posted:

So Frank has brain cancer or something, right? The whole time his nose was gushing I kept thinking they were going to do something with that. How crazy would it have been if Frank died next season.

Agronox posted:

Kudos to the casting a few seasons back; swollen Frank looked a lot like a messed-up Jon Polito (from Frank's Brother).

The Sean posted:

I didn't fully get the meaning of the dance. Like, I did on at the top-level but not really any of the detail.

Whalley posted:

So basically the whole dance was about Mac overcoming how he's powered his self loathing with a warped view of what he thinks God is, and how he used oversexualization as a means to not really be his true self, and how that was literally killing him.

Krankenstyle posted:

Although there were never any injuries, everyone recalls a freak flip that happened during rehearsals once the rain had been added to a section of the dance they called “the death spiral.” Faulk practiced it first with McElhenney to make sure that Shea would be safe. He was supposed to swing her around, twirl her with one hand, and then let her go in the gushing water, but something unexpected happened when he moved his foot and lost the grip. As Faulk spun, McElhenney flipped forward, landing like a ninja to prevent her from falling. “It was insane!” said Shea, who watched it happen alongside Moctezuma.

“I don’t know what happened there, it was like holdover jujitsu training,” McElhenney recalled. “I lost my footing and I did some kind of bizarre flip and landed like Spider-Man. Unfortunately, the cameras weren’t rolling.”

Whalley posted:

So basically the whole dance was about Mac overcoming how he's powered his self loathing with a warped view of what he thinks God is, and how he used oversexualization as a means to not really be his true self, and how that was literally killing him.

It opens with Mac alternating between pushing God away whenever he moves more by himself and going into tango-esque sequences, showing an alternating and conflicting view where he couldn't be himself while loving how he'd built up God in his head without reverting to over the top sexuality towards women. As the dance goes on, these pushes and moments get stronger and stronger, sometimes literally throwing himself and God across the stage, until Mac's awakening - this is the point where his dad leaves. He's broken here, and full of pain, and he tries to hide in God but can't, because who that is to him doesn't fit with who he is to himself. This is, in the overall story, the point when Mac finally realizes to himself that he is gay, after a few seasons of increasingly over the top gay jokes. He got absurd in the show, but the dance shows that right here was the lowest he's been in his whole fuckin' life. Throughout that sequence, God is getting more and more desperate to gain Mac's attention, with larger, more elaborate movements, which was Mac's internal struggle where he desperately wanted to cling to his faith, but couldn't find a way to mesh the two in his heart.

Then, poo poo starts to change. He returns furiously to sex and violence, which was the last moments before he came out in his life, and after a massive push where he and God fly to other ends of the stage, they start dancing together, properly. This was his coming out. It's awkward at first, there's flirtations with those more tango-like movements, showing how he can't really get himself together... and then, it clicks. We have some final amazing moments, before Mac literally holds God over his head in a feat of strength, showing he's finally learned that he doesn't need to change, he's strong enough to be the warrior he sees himself as in the eyes of God... then, in just a loving perfect moment, he lets her down and cries in her lap while she whispers "it's okay." This here was the final moment, where Mac has identified this massive strength in himself, but also that he can finally be a complete person who is vulnerable, who is allowed to be weak, who no longer needs the bravado of strength because he's more than that.

It's insane that this 13th season comedy show about a bunch of trash gremlins from the worst bar in Philadelphia could have such a loving powerful dance that also fully reveals this huuuuge underbelly to a character who, previously, had been the butt of every joke, and to do it effectively seconds after Cricket was dressed like a leather grandpa sex dancing some ringworm scars onto a swollen-headed Frank.

Also charlie eet rat

timp posted:

Jesus I hope this doesn't make him well-adjusted! It'd ruin the goddamn show!

Krankenstyle posted:

Although there were never any injuries, everyone recalls a freak flip that happened during rehearsals once the rain had been added to a section of the dance they called “the death spiral.” Faulk practiced it first with McElhenney to make sure that Shea would be safe. He was supposed to swing her around, twirl her with one hand, and then let her go in the gushing water, but something unexpected happened when he moved his foot and lost the grip. As Faulk spun, McElhenney flipped forward, landing like a ninja to prevent her from falling. “It was insane!” said Shea, who watched it happen alongside Moctezuma.

“I don’t know what happened there, it was like holdover jujitsu training,” McElhenney recalled. “I lost my footing and I did some kind of bizarre flip and landed like Spider-Man. Unfortunately, the cameras weren’t rolling.”

tarlibone posted:

Whalley posted:

So basically the whole dance was about Mac overcoming how he's powered his self loathing with a warped view of what he thinks God is, and how he used oversexualization as a means to not really be his true self, and how that was literally killing him.

It opens with Mac alternating between pushing God away whenever he moves more by himself and going into tango-esque sequences, showing an alternating and conflicting view where he couldn't be himself while loving how he'd built up God in his head without reverting to over the top sexuality towards women. As the dance goes on, these pushes and moments get stronger and stronger, sometimes literally throwing himself and God across the stage, until Mac's awakening - this is the point where his dad leaves. He's broken here, and full of pain, and he tries to hide in God but can't, because who that is to him doesn't fit with who he is to himself. This is, in the overall story, the point when Mac finally realizes to himself that he is gay, after a few seasons of increasingly over the top gay jokes. He got absurd in the show, but the dance shows that right here was the lowest he's been in his whole fuckin' life. Throughout that sequence, God is getting more and more desperate to gain Mac's attention, with larger, more elaborate movements, which was Mac's internal struggle where he desperately wanted to cling to his faith, but couldn't find a way to mesh the two in his heart.

Then, poo poo starts to change. He returns furiously to sex and violence, which was the last moments before he came out in his life, and after a massive push where he and God fly to other ends of the stage, they start dancing together, properly. This was his coming out. It's awkward at first, there's flirtations with those more tango-like movements, showing how he can't really get himself together... and then, it clicks. We have some final amazing moments, before Mac literally holds God over his head in a feat of strength, showing he's finally learned that he doesn't need to change, he's strong enough to be the warrior he sees himself as in the eyes of God... then, in just a loving perfect moment, he lets her down and cries in her lap while she whispers "it's okay." This here was the final moment, where Mac has identified this massive strength in himself, but also that he can finally be a complete person who is vulnerable, who is allowed to be weak, who no longer needs the bravado of strength because he's more than that.

It's insane that this 13th season comedy show about a bunch of trash gremlins from the worst bar in Philadelphia could have such a loving powerful dance that also fully reveals this huuuuge underbelly to a character who, previously, had been the butt of every joke, and to do it effectively seconds after Cricket was dressed like a leather grandpa sex dancing some ringworm scars onto a swollen-headed Frank.

Also charlie eet rat

Doltos posted:

I'm pretty sure IASIP wants you to think there was meaning behind the dance but in reality there was no meaning and it was just an absurd dance done in a philly prison by an insane guy which makes it so funny. Everyone in the prison was inspired except for his Dad, and Frank 'understanding' the dance was part of the joke.

multijoe posted:

Christ you really loving suck dude

Doltos posted:

Sorry for interpreting the dance as a straight forward joke?

multijoe posted:

It was the one earnest thing the show's ever done, taking it as a joke at Mac's expense is really kind of horrible

Whalley posted:

Y'all know that interpretive dance and ballet are like explicit storytelling mediums, right? And that they went to great lengths to get people who knew how to tell these kind of stories? And that they explicitly did not want to end this episode on a joke out of respect for the numerous LGBT people who have voiced support to the show since Mac's coming out, because the whole team didn't want to make a joke of a really serious event?

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

I too derive meaning from the show where danny devito covered himself in hand sanitizer and rolled around on the floor

Doltos posted:

I'm sorry for watching a comedy show and interpreting an absurd dance done in an absurd environment as a joke.

Super Deuce posted:

I don’t know what about it was absurd.

Waltzing Along posted:

It was in a prison?

Doltos posted:

I'm sorry for watching a comedy show and interpreting an absurd dance done in an absurd environment as a joke.

Enderzero posted:

The environment was absurd, but he's referring to the dance as absurd as well, which it was not. I've been to a friend's show where they danced as a staticy voice kept repeating "Always Coca-Cola". That was absurd. This was just insanely impressive interpretive dance, and not even the boring kind.