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Nephzinho posted:She shuts down Chainwhirler and Pyromancer ping, nothing else? Steamkin also gets hit. Edit: poo poo wait was it Tocatli that shut down my Steamkin? That doesn't seem to make sense.
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GrandpaPants posted:Steamkin also gets hit. It shouldn’t since the steam kin triggers are on cast
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Yeah I was mistaking it for another game where my Steam Kin got Merfolk Trickster'ed.
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Dehtraen posted:It shouldn’t since the steam kin triggers are on cast So many exact lethal kills where I play something into a counter and get the +1 on steamkin anyway.
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GrandpaPants posted:
Tocatli fuckin rules and I love slamming it right in the face of Golgari cowards. My breathing visibly quickens when I see G/B mana on turn 2 with her in the grip. I will definitely be changing my tune when I come around to spending WC on a Golgari deck of my own.
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I'm finding Golgari fun when I don't slam into the guard. I'm actually finding the Giant a respecable way to get reach for the big finish.
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What is the format of this PT? Do they draft 8-mans over and over or just play the same draft deck all day and play Standard tomorrow? Or shift to Standard this afternoon or something?
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It's the same all the non-team ones have been for the last while. Start each day with a draft then 5 rounds of standard.
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Nov 9, 2018 17:09
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quote:We do love announcing our announcements, but you should pay special attention to this one. https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/major-competitive-magic-gaming-announcement-december-6-2018-11-09 ...okay?
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:It's the same all the non-team ones have been for the last while. Start each day with a draft then 5 rounds of standard. Oh good, I was hoping to listen to some Standard at work today.
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Huxley posted:What is the format of this PT? Do they draft 8-mans over and over or just play the same draft deck all day and play Standard tomorrow? Or shift to Standard this afternoon or something? 3 rounds of draft then 4 rounds of standard on Friday and Saturday then a cut to top 8 for Sunday. The top 8 is standard. Tomorrow they will draft new decks. They also said that all top 8 matches will be best of 5s instead of just the final.
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Nov 9, 2018 17:24
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odiv posted:https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/major-competitive-magic-gaming-announcement-december-6-2018-11-09 How much goodwill can WotC incinerate in just one year? Let's find out!
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Nov 9, 2018 17:49
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Its during the VGAs so I assume it is just announcing an Arena championship.
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80s James Hetfield posted:jeskai control will win the pro tour Probably, its the one deck that doesnt have either a silver bullet hate card that turns the deck off or an auto lose matchup. I wouldnt be shocked if something else won but Jeskai has the best odds to walk away with the crown.
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an_mutt posted:Tuning into the draft and saw that Ben Stark just p1p1'd a Nightveil Sprite over a Dead Weight and a Disinformation campaign. I haven't really followed the draft format for the last 3-4 weeks, and what on earth have I missed? P1P1 sprite puts you in the best two guilds, dimir and izzet, is an uncommon so you see less of them, and gives repeatable surveil for the other build around uncommons (spy bug, phantasm, and fake news). There are going to be dimir control decks that want dead weight more than sprite but early on the more powerful flexible card is best.
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Tainen posted:3 rounds of draft then 4 rounds of standard on Friday and Saturday then a cut to top 8 for Sunday. The top 8 is standard. Tomorrow they will draft new decks. Isn't it 3 draft and 5 standard? Or did something change since the last time I paid attention.
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Tainen posted:Its during the VGAs so I assume it is just announcing an Arena championship. All future PT's will be standard and will be played on Arena.
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Elyv posted:they don't really like onboard tricks anymore Or at least repeatable ones that don’t also require a mana cost.
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Cactrot posted:All future PT's will be standard and will be played on Arena. Pretty big improvement over the status quo tbh Edit: at least if they add a spectator mode. I expect they’d actually take blurry video of the players’ screens over their shoulders Tom Clancy is Dead fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Nov 9, 2018 |
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I think the pt being in arena would be fantastic. I also am a fan of the pt when it isn’t just standard though.
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Sickening posted:I think the pt being in arena would be fantastic. I also am a fan of the pt when it isn’t just standard though. No one is a bigger proponent of moving the game to digital than me, but I feel like having actual drafts on arena before you make it the PT medium would be nice.
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Eh, maybe good for general viewership, but I like my cards physical.
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Marketing New Brain posted:No one is a bigger proponent of moving the game to digital than me, but I feel like having actual drafts on arena before you make it the PT medium would be nice. just lol that there aren't actual drafts on Arena one year after its playable release
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https://clips.twitch.tv/ComfortableUgliestMulePraiseIt
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AnEdgelord posted:Probably, its the one deck that doesnt have either a silver bullet hate card that turns the deck off or an auto lose matchup. I wouldnt be shocked if something else won but Jeskai has the best odds to walk away with the crown. Carnage Tyrant is pretty hard to beat. It’s not that it literally can’t but it people have been maindecking them for a while now. Hellsau posted:just lol that there aren't actual drafts on Arena one year after its playable release I would be really surprised if those are ever coming. I don't know if the demand exists, really. It's not a feature I see requested much anymore. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Nov 9, 2018 |
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Interesting. Jeskai midrange seems to be the biggest new player, followed by Turbofog, UB control, and Grixis control. Lots of people on mono r. I’m not sure about that being a good idea. I feel like it got a lot of % points from people not knowing how to side against it. Not as much Jeskai control as I expected. I guess that goes hand in hand with the other control decks having a surprising amount of representation.
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Angry Grimace posted:Carnage Tyrant is pretty hard to beat. It’s not that it literally can’t but it people have been maindecking them for a while now. Carnage Tyrant is little more than a speed bump for the new version of the Jeskai decks. The sheer density of boardwipes they run let them clear it with ease, and if the Jeskai player is on the Crackling Drake version then they can outright race it/profitably block it. Golgari's Jeskai matchup has gotten worse and worse over the weeks as Jeskai has refined their deck with better and better answers to Golgari's threats. Star of Extinction in particular is a frighteningly powerful card against Golgari.
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I'm of the opinion the phoenix decks are the best decks and whoever gets the build right should take down standard.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Pro tour breakdown: I really dislike the way they break some of this down. What is the difference between Red-White aggro and Boros Aggro?
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Cactrot posted:I really dislike the way they break some of this down. What is the difference between Red-White aggro and Boros Aggro? One is Red-White, the other is White-Red, presumably.
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Cactrot posted:I really dislike the way they break some of this down. What is the difference between Red-White aggro and Boros Aggro? This was my exact question, but I'm also not sure what the difference is between Boros aggro vs. Boros angels?
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Probably a matter of RDW splash white versus either a more even split or White Weenie splash red.
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Cactrot posted:I really dislike the way they break some of this down. What is the difference between Red-White aggro and Boros Aggro? Yeah it's pretty bad. In this case, I assume Red-White is white weenie + Heroic Reinforcements and Boros is a more even split of colors.
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Marketing New Brain posted:I'm of the opinion the phoenix decks are the best decks and whoever gets the build right should take down standard. You may very well be right. Im looking forward to seeing the more refined lists from the pt. The lists we've seen so far have had certain amount of clunkiness that id love to see ironed out.
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Cactrot posted:I really dislike the way they break some of this down. What is the difference between Red-White aggro and Boros Aggro? It's weird they would do this since standard has so many archetypes there's no reason to have another "B/R aggro, B/R midrange, B/R Control". It's honestly refreshing where the most played deck is just a fifth of the field and probably has 3-4 distinct builds within that group. AnEdgelord posted:You may very well be right. Im looking forward to seeing the more refined lists from the pt. The lists we've seen so far have had certain amount of clunkiness that id love to see ironed out. While I don't think the lists are streamlined yet, there's also something to be said for how much play the deck has, between the drakes and electromancers you can build it to attack whatever is popular, similar to Golgari.
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AnEdgelord posted:Carnage Tyrant is little more than a speed bump for the new version of the Jeskai decks. The sheer density of boardwipes they run let them clear it with ease, and if the Jeskai player is on the Crackling Drake version then they can outright race it/profitably block it. I'm willing to make a friendly bet that the matchup isn't anywhere near as favorable for control as you are implying.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Pro tour breakdown: How does Jeskai Control lose against this field lmao
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GrandpaPants posted:This was my exact question, but I'm also not sure what the difference is between Boros aggro vs. Boros angels? At least Boros angels is "The one with Angels", the rest are just nonsense. It's not like they couldn't have picked out specific cards for naming these, even Benalish Boros does more to inform the difference between the Boros decks.
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