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Eren's decision to commit to global genocide is cool and good
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Nov 9, 2018 22:27
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Kerning Chameleon posted:lol if you don't see eren as he is now is the logical conclusion to his character arc since chapter loving one So, does he have any agency as a person at all, or is he as he is now, "the logical conclusion to his character arc since chapter loving one?" Then again, with recent developments, he literally might not have agency!
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Nov 9, 2018 22:27
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we've spent a lot of time orbiting around eren hearing other people discuss what they think his goals are, so I doubt we actually have an accurate view of what he thinks or is planning. I'm very curious about what's going on in his head at this point
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Nov 9, 2018 22:31
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Schwarzwald posted:So, does he have any agency as a person at all, or is he as he is now, "the logical conclusion to his character arc since chapter loving one?" If he truly was ever in control of his own faculties, then yes, he had quite a few chances to turn off the path that leads to him triggering national holocaust. In my mind, his last chance was when he looked over the sea for the first time. Knowing the people he threatened were human, knowing most of them were innocent victims of a repressive system and generations of propaganda, having already actively participated in the mercy kill genocide of his fellow Eldians-as-Titans, knowing all that, he still chose "if it's us or them, I guess I gotta do a whole genocide then." He may have been weary, or remorseful, or whatever earns sympathy points with you, but he still chose to perpetuate genocide that day. And if he isn't in control of his faculties? Then that means he's just a puppet, and has been since the day his father forced the Titan powers onto him. Which means he's not really human anymore, is he? Not in the ways that matter, anyway. Kerning Chameleon fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Nov 9, 2018 |
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Nov 9, 2018 22:38
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So I may be having trouble following due to the translations, but are we supposed to assume that all the higher ups have been drinking contaminated wine for a while now or was that specific bottle being saved for a special occasion? I know zeke can activate people with his spinal fluid at will, but what we saw at the start of the Marley arc seemed to imply that his spinal fluid put them in a mildly catatonic state, so I have trouble believing a bunch of higher ups are walking talking titan bombs that have no idea.
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Nov 9, 2018 22:56
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JahRoo posted:So I may be having trouble following due to the translations, but are we supposed to assume that all the higher ups have been drinking contaminated wine for a while now or was that specific bottle being saved for a special occasion? we don't know either way but it seems like a reasonable conclusion to make
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Nov 9, 2018 22:58
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Kerning Chameleon posted:He may have been weary, or remorseful, or whatever earns sympathy points with you, but he still chose to perpetuate genocide that day. Attacking a nation's military leadership in response to a declaration of war is not perpetuating a genocide.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:00
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Schwarzwald posted:Attacking a nation's military leadership in response to a declaration of war is not perpetuating a genocide. Let it be known that Eren Jaeger is going to open up the walls, unleash the wall titans, and be personally responsible for the deaths of billions of humans. And Schwarzwald is going to defend it when it happens.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:18
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Kerning Chameleon posted:Let it be known that Eren Jaeger is going to open up the walls, unleash the wall titans, and be personally responsible for the deaths of billions of humans. gently caress yeah, it's gonna own
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Nov 9, 2018 23:31
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U-DO Burger posted:gently caress yeah, it's gonna own I mean, I totally agree, but some folks itt seem to take offense at the idea of the protagonists of this manga doing that, for some reason.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:34
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Kerning Chameleon posted:Let it be known that Eren Jaeger is going to open up the walls, unleash the wall titans, and be personally responsible for the deaths of billions of humans. And Schwarzwald is going to defend it when it happens. My dude, you literally defended that exact course of action like twelve posts ago. Don't lose your head just because I suggest that not all violent actions are on the level of "genocide." Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Nov 9, 2018 |
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Nov 9, 2018 23:39
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JahRoo posted:So I may be having trouble following due to the translations, but are we supposed to assume that all the higher ups have been drinking contaminated wine for a while now or was that specific bottle being saved for a special occasion? This was my thought too.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:50
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Schwarzwald posted:My dude, you literally defended that exact course of action like twelve posts ago. Don't lose your head just because I suggest that not all violent actions are on the level of "genocide." I approve of it because I hate all the characters in this manga, have always thought they were horrible people, and want them to go extinct as punishment for it. You, obviously, have a more sympathetic opinion towards them, and thus the onus is on you to defend them whenever they commit atrocities. To me, it's just confirmation of what I always knew about who they really are as characters. You're the one who has to square the moral circle here to maintain your faith in the protagonists as "good people". (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 9, 2018 23:51
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Kerning Chameleon posted:I approve of it because I hate all the characters in this manga, have always thought they were horrible people, and want them to go extinct as punishment for it. I think you're projecting a bit. Which characters have I been describing as good?
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Nov 10, 2018 00:01
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for the love of god don't actually engage with kerning
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Nov 10, 2018 00:07
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Kerning is a horrendous d&d poster who is bringing his longing for death into the aot thread, it is best to not respond to his doomsaying.
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Nov 10, 2018 00:12
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JahRoo posted:So I may be having trouble following due to the translations, but are we supposed to assume that all the higher ups have been drinking contaminated wine for a while now or was that specific bottle being saved for a special occasion? I think those people were possibly drugged, maybe half aware of what was going to happen, or possibly 'redundant' people suffering from mental illness or war trauma.
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Nov 10, 2018 00:32
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Kerning Chameleon posted:I approve of it because I hate all the characters in this manga, have always thought they were horrible people, and want them to go extinct as punishment for it. 
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Nov 10, 2018 00:57
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Piriwi posted:I think those people were possibly drugged, maybe half aware of what was going to happen, or possibly 'redundant' people suffering from mental illness or war trauma. They already had that slack-jaw titan face going on pre-transformation, and they were in strait jackets weren't they?
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Nov 10, 2018 01:21
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U-DO Burger posted:Eren's decision to commit to global genocide is cool and good
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Nov 10, 2018 02:15
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HoneyBoy posted:They already had that slack-jaw titan face going on pre-transformation, and they were in strait jackets weren't they? Yeah, I'm thinking that they kinda blundered into figuring out part of the plot. Gabi is on pace to be a bigger fuckup than early Eren at this rate
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Nov 10, 2018 02:47
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kerwyn posted:Gabi is on pace to be a bigger fuckup than early Eren at this rate I can't wait. When Gabi turns into a Titan, can we Titanize a Horse to bite her stupid head again. EDIT: GET CARTMAN!
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Nov 11, 2018 02:37
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If Reiner is predestined to be eaten by Falco (or Gabi) because he had a future-memory, does that mean that he, Pieck and probably Porco are about to bust into the restaurant right now? Also I don't give a gently caress about what happens to the world. All that matters to me is that by the time this is over, Historia eats Porco and inherits Jaws so that she and Ymir can be together in some form. Liquid Dinosaur fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Nov 11, 2018 |
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Nov 11, 2018 03:13
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Hopefully no one eats Pieck and she just dies naturally, the cart titan is loving ugly and sucks
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Nov 11, 2018 06:59
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:If Reiner is predestined to be eaten by Falco (or Gabi) because he had a future-memory, does that mean that he, Pieck and probably Porco are about to bust into the restaurant right now? Wait, what future memory?
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Nov 11, 2018 15:34
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Aumanor posted:Wait, what future memory? I don’t even recall where it was myself but, but didn’t someone just mention that Reiner had a “memory” or Gabi or Falco or something which would indicate one of them will eat him, like how Eren Krueger said something about Mikasa and Armin? I’d link back to it but I’m on mobile, forgive me.
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Nov 11, 2018 22:48
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JahRoo posted:So I may be having trouble following due to the translations, but are we supposed to assume that all the higher ups have been drinking contaminated wine for a while now or was that specific bottle being saved for a special occasion? Page 21 answers your first question. Liquid Dinosaur posted:If Reiner is predestined to be eaten by Falco (or Gabi) because he had a future-memory, does that mean that he, Pieck and probably Porco are about to bust into the restaurant right now? I think Eren is totally picking Falco to get his attacker titan. Falco helped Eren up, fixed his devil badge, and he talked with him a hospital. Owl simply decided that Eren's father should have the attacker titan because he left the walled village. I like this page back when Eren is talking with Reiner after the time skip. I think it also hows how Eren feels about Falco's nature.  And I think Eren will either tell Reiner to decide his successor or heavily imply Gabi. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 10:03 on Nov 12, 2018 |
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Nov 12, 2018 09:33
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:I don’t even recall where it was myself but, but didn’t someone just mention that Reiner had a “memory” or Gabi or Falco or something which would indicate one of them will eat him, like how Eren Krueger said something about Mikasa and Armin? I asked about this due to the end of chapter 107. Gabi and Falco escape prison, then Reiner wakes up from a bad dream, claims he heard the voices of Gabi and Falco and asks where they are.
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Nov 12, 2018 10:44
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I thought he was just referring to Falco and Gabi shouting out for him, which is what got him to get back up and save the Jaw Titan dude from Eren.
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Nov 12, 2018 11:50
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Tenzarin posted:Page 21 answers your first question. But it's not clear whether the "wine that's only drunk by the higher ups" has always been contaminated or if they intentionally contaminated that type of wine this one time, knowing who would be drinking it.
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Nov 12, 2018 13:36
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https://goboiano.com/attack-on-titan-manga-is-entering-its-final-arc/quote:The Attack on Titan manga is marching towards its conclusion as Hajime Isayama begins writing the final arc.
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Nov 13, 2018 04:54
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Man what a wild ride. Can't believe how much has gone on over the years.
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Nov 13, 2018 04:58
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Keep in mind the final arc could go for years.
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Nov 13, 2018 06:28
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This definitely feels like the final arc, but I think right before Eren starts the Rumbling he'll trigger a multi-chapter flashback arc of Ymir Fritz's life and the history of Eldia. There's still too many questions that noone alive can answer, like Ackermans and the ultimate 'to you in 2000 years' mystery.
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Nov 13, 2018 06:44
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Sub Harrison posted:This definitely feels like the final arc, but I think right before Eren starts the Rumbling he'll trigger a multi-chapter flashback arc of Ymir Fritz's life and the history of Eldia. There's still too many questions that noone alive can answer, like Ackermans and the ultimate 'to you in 2000 years' mystery.
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Nov 14, 2018 01:08
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comedyblissoption posted:still waiting on chekhov's wall titans
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Nov 17, 2018 00:07
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Um, major spoilers for the final panel of the manga? That Isayama tv special aired, and it shows his preliminary sketch for the final panel along with some text. https://kotaku.com/see-how-the-attack-on-titan-manga-will-end-1830531715
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Nov 19, 2018 16:08
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Teek posted:Um, major spoilers for the final panel of the manga? That Isayama tv special aired, and it shows his preliminary sketch for the final panel along with some text. Basically.......this is all I hear and see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yYS0ZZdsnA
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Nov 19, 2018 19:18
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Teek posted:Um, major spoilers for the final panel of the manga? That Isayama tv special aired, and it shows his preliminary sketch for the final panel along with some text. So yeah whoever said this was going to end with Mikasa/one person and a baby good job.
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Nov 19, 2018 20:02
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:If Reiner is predestined to be eaten by Falco (or Gabi) because he had a future-memory, does that mean that he, Pieck and probably Porco are about to bust into the restaurant right now? Historia is going to eat all of the titans and become the real Ymir once again Then we'll get an inspiring speech about how Eldia was really inside all of us all along, and then we'll get cake
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