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quote:One GOP official received a phone call from a Republican donor who was pleading for a phone call from Kobach because the donor wanted to give to the campaign, but Kobach never called.
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ChipNDip posted:All of the close states that the Dems need to win in 2020 (PA, MI, WI) delivered solid victories in their Senate and Governor races. Iowa was close in the governors race and a success in the House (flipped 2 out of 3 GOP held seats). This is mostly true, but I think not quite as rosy as you're painting it. Those states did vote for Dems, but on a way smaller margin than they should have, and way smaller than general national trends. Stabenow went from winning +20 in 2012 to hanging onto her seat by +6 now. That's not a disaster, but it ain't nothing, either. Those states are clearly swingy and up for grabs, especially once Trump starts really campaigning in them. At this point, I kind of feel like the entire 2020 campaign is going to play out in WI, MI, and PA.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:08
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regular mike posted:Rick Scott is the corruptest politician in America and I wouldn't let him break a dollar for me without counting out all four quarters into my palm. If anything is fishy at all in Florida, it is because of fraud. is he more corrupt than wisconsin's walker? (well, i guess walker can no longer be considered a "politician", lmao)
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Z. Autobahn posted:This is mostly true, but I think not quite as rosy as you're painting it. Those states did vote for Dems, but on a way smaller margin than they should have, and way smaller than general national trends. Stabenow went from winning +20 in 2012 to hanging onto her seat by +6 now. That's not a disaster, but it ain't nothing, either. Those states are clearly swingy and up for grabs, especially once Trump starts really campaigning in them. At this point, I kind of feel like the entire 2020 campaign is going to play out in WI, MI, and PA. Eh sorta. Debbie Stabbanow is largely seen by the greater Michigan populace as at best, a political hack who does some good, to a do nothing Senator that has like one or two issues, to at worst, the embodiment of socialism. She's not exactly unpopular, but there is a lot of apathy towards her, and I could see her getting primaried from the left if an actual candidate ran against her. John James despite being a bog standard Republican was also quite a different pick for the GOP in Michigan, so there is that.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:13
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enraged_camel posted:is he more corrupt than wisconsin's walker? Scott is rich due to committing medicare fraud. He is personally corrupt in the criminal self-enriching sense.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:14
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Feldegast42 posted:Not sure on the whole "military despises Trump" thing though I think it's just the Marines enlisted that love him, and the other branches are more divided.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:16
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Z. Autobahn posted:This is mostly true, but I think not quite as rosy as you're painting it. Those states did vote for Dems, but on a way smaller margin than they should have, and way smaller than general national trends. Stabenow went from winning +20 in 2012 to hanging onto her seat by +6 now. That's not a disaster, but it ain't nothing, either. Those states are clearly swingy and up for grabs, especially once Trump starts really campaigning in them. At this point, I kind of feel like the entire 2020 campaign is going to play out in WI, MI, and PA. Comparing a presidential election year in which a pretty popular president was up for re-election to a midterm year, even one that was bigger than normal, seems like not a good comparison though.
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evilweasel posted:Scott is rich due to committing medicare fraud. He is personally corrupt in the criminal self-enriching sense. Yeah, there's something very old-school and quaint about him in that sense.
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evilweasel posted:Scott is rich due to committing medicare fraud. He is personally corrupt in the criminal self-enriching sense. i see okay, i guess he wins the prize then
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pookel posted:That's nice, but good luck proving whether they googled you before making a hiring decision. If it got to the lawsuit stage that would be hilariously easy to prove.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:18
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Lycus posted:I think it's just the Marines enlisted that love him, and the other branches are more divided. This is not surprising at all From what I know from experience and from what my Navy Yeoman father told me, Marines REALLY buy into the gently caress Yeah America schtick.
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TulliusCicero posted:This is not surprising at all Yeah this can also be determined through the experience of speaking to pretty much any marine
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Riptor posted:Yeah this can also be determined through the experience of speaking to pretty much any marine Eh, I've met some ones that don't suck.
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TulliusCicero posted:Eh, I've met some ones that don't suck. 
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https://twitter.com/AP/status/1061012945499512837quote:Arizona Republicans and Democrats have agreed to give rural voters an extra chance to fix problems with their ballots in the count of the state’s tight Senate race. I think Sinema may have just  'd her senate seat away...
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Nov 9, 2018 23:26
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Democrats are the guys who throw away their gun to get into a fair fistfight before being surprised that the bad guy had a gun hidden in their butt the whole time.
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nine-gear crow posted:https://twitter.com/AP/status/1061012945499512837 The left lacks the shameless hunger for power that the right uses and abuses every day.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:29
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nine-gear crow posted:https://twitter.com/AP/status/1061012945499512837 I mean... objectively speaking... allowing rural and urban regions to correctly have their ballots counted is the right thing to do, right? (also you don't settle a lawsuit you're confident you'll win, so this feels, very likely, better than the alternative, i.e. urban ballots not getting counted)
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Nov 9, 2018 23:30
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nine-gear crow posted:https://twitter.com/AP/status/1061012945499512837 No this is definitely a good thing, the Republicans didn't want anyone to be able to fix mail-in ballots that were rejected, getting Republicans to agree to let everyone do it is a clear win for the side that's leading in mail-in ballots (Democrats)
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lol rest in peace senator sinoma
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enraged_camel posted:i see He passed a law requiring welfare recipients to take drug tests to get benefits, and his wife just happens to own a big stake in the company the got the contract 
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Nov 9, 2018 23:31
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Ahahaha. The good thing about all the gerrymandering and voter suppression is that some of them have gotten so loving complacent, they're not even trying anymore.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:31
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Z. Autobahn posted:I mean... objectively speaking... allowing rural and urban regions to correctly have their ballots counted is the right thing to do, right? lmao I love rushing to declare that not disenfranchising your enemies is yet-another failure of the democratic party
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VitalSigns posted:No this is definitely a good thing, the Republicans didn't want anyone to be able to fix mail-in ballots that were rejected, getting Republicans to agree to let everyone do it is a clear win for the side that's leading in mail-in ballots (Democrats) Not only that, but how many rural mail in votes can there be compared to urban?
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TulliusCicero posted:Not only that, but how many rural mail in votes can there be compared to urban? Yeah that too most of them are in urban counties from what I've seen. Also it's just a win for democracy in general. Who cares how long it takes to validate ballots, I don't give a drat if it takes from now til January, better that then eligible voters having their votes tossed out.
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https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/1061022117548814336 Gavin's mustache wax fund is getting cut off.
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Has anybody looked at Whitaker's Wikipedia article? Because he definitely created his own 12 years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Matthew_Whitaker_(attorney)&oldid=66446917
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Nov 9, 2018 23:34
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The Glumslinger posted:He passed a law requiring welfare recipients to take drug tests to get benefits, and his wife just happens to own a big stake in the company the got the contract Sounds exactly like the story about Feinstein and her hubby that someone posted earlier. 
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Jeez, this puts me in an uncomfortable position because I never want to defend decorum, but if you vote your vote should count... so yeah, rural voters should get to fix their ballots cause everyone should. I just put on twitter, I have been called by a nickname my whole life so I sometimes forget what name I have signed for certain things. For instance, my driver's license is in my legal name, but the signature is my nickname. So I had to guess when I signed my ballot. So like, signature laws suck. Let people fix their ballots. And if this is applied universally that would be good both ethically and tactically.
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eke out posted:lmao I love rushing to declare that not disenfranchising your enemies is yet-another failure of the democratic party VitalSigns posted:Yeah that too most of them are in urban counties from what I've seen. yeah i'm vaguely queasy about the immediate "gently caress, why didn't they throw out ballots from republican-leaning areas  "
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...I am agreeing with Vitalsigns? Huh, this thread has brought people closer together!  The best part to me about Whitaker is I remembered there is this really lovely Bond villain played by Joe Don Baker called Whitaker, and boy does that just fit. The character is like a proto maga chud.
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I wonder if there's a transcript of the hearing, because it sounds like Republicans might have hosed it up. Their goal was to stop any ballots from being fixed period, I wonder if they were trying to make the Dems sound unreasonable by arguing "why is it only urban counties, we're not trying to suppress anyone, we want every vote counted too but the Democrats don't want the same extensions for everyone" and the Dems said "great thanks, doing it everywhere is fine by us judge!"
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duodenum posted:Sounds exactly like the story about Feinstein and her hubby that someone posted earlier. I prefer the spinning fly wheel model personally.
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Love that we've gone so far down the rabbit hole that "Let's accurately count the votes to determine who won" is now apparently
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GreyjoyBastard posted:yeah i'm vaguely queasy about the immediate "gently caress, why didn't they throw out ballots from republican-leaning areas it's also completely counter-intuitive because we're fighting bullshit signature-matching laws in other states right now. "every vote should count" is a good uniform message to have in the multiple ongoing recounts also, if people actually read that extremely brief article: the suit was filed by republicans to try to get urban counties to stop allowing people to fix their ballots, because apparently rural ones weren't doing it. the settlement is "We'll just let everyone do this" which is... totally fine and not only is ideologically consistent but benefits democrats as well.
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VitalSigns posted:I wonder if there's a transcript of the hearing, because it sounds like Republicans might have hosed it up. i dont get it either, this does nothing for the gop
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regular mike posted:Rick Scott is the corruptest politician in America and I wouldn't let him break a dollar for me without counting out all four quarters into my palm. If anything is fishy at all in Florida, it is because of fraud. Rick Scott's the type of guy who'd pass off old subway tokens as quarters.
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eke out posted:it's also completely counter-intuitive because we're fighting bullshit signature-matching laws in other states right now. "every vote should count" is a good uniform message to have in the multiple ongoing recounts Exactly. And many of these rural counties are really small for reference, with the three largest all breaking for Sinema right now. I’m more terrified at how the early ballot/mail-in period more favorable to McSally is going to break.
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