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Ron Jeremy posted:What did nick Mullen do to get the fbi on him his uncle reported him to the fbi for knowing facts about muslims (really)
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little munchkin posted:his uncle reported him to the fbi for knowing facts about muslims (really) Fact: Pork is haraam Fact: Allah is super great Fact: They hoes nasty
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Spoeank posted:If you wanted endless hand wringing watch CNN. You knew exactly what this would be There's miles of space between hand wringing and seemingly genuine glee about literal Nazis being given positions of power. I like Chapo because they have good clear eyed analysis while roasting shitheads, not because they go "LOL everything's gay who cares".
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Ron Jeremy posted:What did nick Mullen do to get the fbi on him He literally explained what ISIS is to one of his dumb relatives who decided knowing the first paragraph of the Wikipedia entry for them amounted to membership The best part of that story is his cool-rear end Chinese neighbors lying to the FBI for him
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Human Tornada posted:There's miles of space between hand wringing and seemingly genuine glee about literal Nazis being given positions of power. I like Chapo because they have good clear eyed analysis while roasting shitheads, not because they go "LOL everything's gay who cares". well where’s your blue wave now binch?
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Human Tornada posted:There's miles of space between hand wringing and seemingly genuine glee about literal Nazis being given positions of power. I like Chapo because they have good clear eyed analysis while roasting shitheads, not because they go "LOL everything's gay who cares". When you can’t cry anymore, you kinda have to laugh.
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Chakan posted:When you can’t cry anymore, you kinda have to laugh. Maybe he just reminded me too much of the disgusting Gen X Republicans I had to deal with at work the day after Trump won.
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Human Tornada posted:There's miles of space between hand wringing and seemingly genuine glee about literal Nazis being given positions of power. I like Chapo because they have good clear eyed analysis while roasting shitheads, not because they go "LOL everything's gay who cares". You need Matt's Hellworld fatalism and Virgil's wonkish optimism in balance. It's the dialectic.
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La Chapo Trap House is CNN for basement dwellers, and I am fine with that.
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Confirmed: listening to way more Chapo now that I'm single again Chapo is for incel commie basement dwellers like me
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If their stream has lots of subs then twitch will probably look the other way over getting wasted. They should probably avoid any sort of "kill xyz" type stuff because if enough right wingers on twitter start bombarding clips they might pull the plug because of advertising etc.
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Human Tornada posted:There's miles of space between hand wringing and seemingly genuine glee about literal Nazis being given positions of power. I like Chapo because they have good clear eyed analysis while roasting shitheads, not because they go "LOL everything's gay who cares". Sounds like you should have tuned into the Pod Save America stream instead where they declared that the #resistance worked. Way more your speed and what you’re looking for.
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Phone posted:Sounds like you should have tuned into the Pod Save America stream instead where they declared that the #resistance worked. Better still, just read this dogshit, courtesy of David Frum: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/11/why-democrats-won-2018-midterms/575179/
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Human Tornada posted:Maybe it's just because he was hosed up but Matt cackling with glee every time another evil prick won (or stole) his election really lowered my opinion of him. I know "Hellworld" is his gimmick and everything but these things still have real effects on millions of people's lives. If I had to guess, I’d say he’s frustrated in part because a ton of Chapo fans don’t really get what he’s saying and are essentially liberals.
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UP AND ADAM posted:I wish Matt was more optimistic about American politics he shouldn't and has no reason to be. its revolution or death
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Phone posted:Sounds like you should have tuned into the Pod Save America stream instead where they declared that the #resistance worked. 
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Serf posted:he shouldn't and has no reason to be. its revolution or death Nice username/post combo. Not that your wrong. This most recent episode was good, especially the trading cards.
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Phone posted:Sounds like you should have tuned into the Pod Save America stream instead where they declared that the #resistance worked. there's a lot of those people in here, reddit is loving leaking again
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Phone posted:Sounds like you should have tuned into the Pod Save America stream instead where they declared that the #resistance worked. Gee didn't see that one coming either. gently caress off.
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I also hate gallows humor and irony, that's why I signed up for https://www.somethingawful.com and listen to Chapo Trap House.
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The actual evidence bares out that no matter who you elect -- Democrat or Republican over the last 46ish years -- things go forwards in the same direction. This covers everything from income, to incarceration rates, to imperialist wars, to healthcare things like preventable deaths. There are only a few knobs to turn and they aren't actually hooked up to anything. The apparatus of American society is mostly self-controlled at this point. The best way to look at elections is taking glee in people you hate being disappointed, but the world isn't going to end any slower or faster if Democrats take the Senate or faceplant like the ineffectual dipshits they are.
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Hmmm maybe it's possible to enjoy gallows humor and aggressive cynicism while also believing there are other ways to achieve leftist political goals than violent revolution. There certainly aren't any examples, like Canada and Western Europe, where such goals have been achieved without bloodshed. And, gasp, I prefer such smart but dark, sardonic political commentary presented by folks that aren't routinely drunk off their rear end and on the verge of vomiting. Maybe I'm just a stale, decorum loving neoliberal idiot. Or just feel it's counter productive towards widespread acceptance and adoption of such ideals outside of internet forums/twitter idk
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KingNastidon posted:Hmmm maybe it's possible to enjoy gallows humor and aggressive cynicism while also believing there are other ways to achieve leftist political goals than violent revolution. There certainly aren't any examples, like Canada and Western Europe, where such goals have been achieved without bloodshed. I don't think you know what leftist political thought is. It extends far beyond "we have healthcare and we're racist in a different way than Americans." The only thing voting does is make you (the voter) feel good. And if that's worth the hassle to you, great! But if you want to actually wrestle with the mechanisms that govern your life and make things better, voting is the last step in the process -- you have to organize and build public pressure first. And that bares out from every historical movement in American history, from the labor movement, to temperance, to the Vietnam war protests, to the Iraq war protests.
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KingNastidon posted:Maybe I'm just a stale, decorum loving neoliberal idiot. It's good that you recognize the problem at least.
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Penisaurus Sex posted:And that bares out from every historical movement in American history, from the labor movement, to temperance, to the Vietnam war protests, to the Iraq war protests. And none of those issues required violent revolution because eventually broad public opinion caught up with "true" leftist politics, right? Maybe not as quickly as one would hope, but none the less. Attacking someone because they don't rigidly adhere to a combination of absolute cynicism and nihilism about democratic elections isn't great. I enjoy Chapo a lot, but that doesn't require making GBS threads on PSA or mainstream liberalism at every opportunity. It's a useful tactic to push the overton window leftward, but we don't have to pretend Felix or Matt had more influence on the recent election gains than Jon Favreau or Tommy Vietor.
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KingNastidon posted:And none of those issues required violent revolution because eventually broad public opinion caught up with "true" leftist politics, right? Maybe not as quickly as one would hope, but none the less. I mean, you can nitpick about 'revolution' but there was absolutely violence in every single case I mentioned. My great uncle was killed by the United States government for striking.
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KingNastidon posted:Hmmm maybe it's possible to enjoy gallows humor and aggressive cynicism while also believing there are other ways to achieve leftist political goals than violent revolution. There certainly aren't any examples, like Canada and Western Europe, where such goals have been achieved without bloodshed. 1)Violent revolution isn't necessary, or the goal, but it has to be a threat. Modern protest movements that work have two things in common: they're nonviolent, and they are associated with a violent or potentially violent sister organization. There have been many stories about how the black panthers were the boogey man that got MLKs foot in the door. Canada and Western Europe don't go far enough, Trudeau would rather see 100,000,000 people die than renounce capitalism, and the death of capitalism is necessary for the survival of the human race. 2) If you're looking for smart, dark, sardonic political commentary, listen to This is Hell. You'll come crawling back in a month begging to forget the true depth of the Hellworld we live in. I love TiH but I can only listen to 1/2 the episodes at most because it makes me immensely depressed. 3) If Chapo is praxis, then loud jokes about how miserable and doomed the world is are necessary because they need to be loud so folks will see them and read the Harvard show interviews so they can say "yeah actually, Harvard grads going into politics is killing us." If Chapo isn't praxis, then who gives a poo poo if Matt gets drunk and calls Trump a 21st century Roman Emperor and laments the purges that we will all soon face, you know he's right. Chapo isn't praxis, btw. KingNastidon posted:And none of those issues required violent revolution because eventually broad public opinion caught up with "true" leftist politics, right? Maybe not as quickly as one would hope, but none the less. You don't have to be cynical or a nihilist, it just helps to get through the day. On the bright side, there's a few sources on twitter saying that Don Jr. is in trouble.
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Penisaurus Sex posted:I mean, you can nitpick about 'revolution' but there was absolutely violence in every single case I mentioned. Being a victim of political violence is different than perpetrating political violence. Chapo is somewhat smart enough to know that optics and widespread acceptance matter (NYT Bestseller!) yet aren't quite there in regards to stopping advocating for violent revolution or not presenting themselves as drunks in public. I really, really like what they do and who they are, but their influence and political message is extremely niche. Demeaning everyone that doesn't jive with Matt's cynicism or Felix's gamer rants isn't building you a coalition. It's possible to like something while acknowledging others may like something that's imperfect, but tangentially beneficial.
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:Lmao why do you think they're trying to build a coalition? I don't. I think they're poo poo posters with a hilarious, smart take on politics. But the condemnation of folks that may enjoy, or at least see the value in, Pod Save America isn't terribly helpful. This is in direct response to the guy telling someone that PSA is more up their alley because they're too liberal/moderate to enjoy CTH. I still think Chapo should go after PSA and mainstream liberalism. It's their bread & butter and unique value as a leftist, brooklyn based podcast. It's why I listen to it. But their fans, including people here, don't have to be as sheltered as to think these are mainstream takes I can share with my moderate-liberal aunt.
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KingNastidon posted:Being a victim of political violence is different than perpetrating political violence. Chapo is somewhat smart enough to know that optics and widespread acceptance matter (NYT Bestseller!) yet aren't quite there in regards to stopping advocating for violent revolution or not presenting themselves as drunks in public. Liberalism is not beneficial. It is demonstrably the opposite of beneficial, in fact.
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Penisaurus Sex posted:Liberalism is not beneficial. It is demonstrably the opposite of beneficial, in fact. Congrats on your 50.1% majority in 2020 running on such rigid expectations! I'm super confident your strident socialism and the threat of violent conflict will totally sway the electorate in Alabama or Idaho or South Dakota. Chapo exists to snipe from the left. They've said as much after the outcome of the 2016 election. If you think CTH politics or rhetorical style would capture a majority of the house/senate by itself you're either extremely online or naive. Enjoy it for what it is.
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KingNastidon posted:But the condemnation of folks that may enjoy, or at least see the value in, Pod Save America isn't terribly helpful. I know some Pod Save America fans, even count them as friends, and their political views definitely deserve condemnation. There is no way they will ever come around, so I'm not sure what kind of bridge-building you're looking for. We might think they're everything from annoying to willful lapdogs for the right, but they believe we're authoritarians coming for their wealth and liberty.
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