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GreyjoyBastard posted:the dnc doesn't have nearly as much power as you think it does Then I'm much less likely to die in that ditch.
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evilweasel posted:people who vote for trump are trump-supporting shitlords You seem to be projecting a little. I was talking about a, mostly joking, hypothetical future situation where my core assumption was that Trump's victory was assured against Hillary and what I would do in that situation. Acting like I'm trying to defend actual Trump voters is a bit dishonest.
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VitalSigns posted:Every room in Star Trek had a magic box that can create any material good you want except (a) latinum and (b) this week's rare plot-critical material. And there's no shortage of energy because humanity is a Kardashev Type II civilization. Ok, but why would anyone bother to be a busboy at Sisko's restaurant? If I wanted my own restaurant can I just go out and get one?
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GreyjoyBastard posted:the dnc doesn't have nearly as much power as you think it does Yup. Dem primary voters voted for a bad candidate in 2016. The DNC isn't competent enough to really make a difference.
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Rectal Death Adept posted:You seem to be projecting a little. I was talking about a, mostly joking, hypothetical future situation where my core assumption was that Trump's victory was assured against Hillary and what I would do in that situation. You’re defending voting for Trump though.
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plogo posted:I don't know that AOC's views on ubi are that relevant. Whether its a federal jobs guarantee, ubi, whatever, the dems don't even control the senate much less a super majority. In another 4 to 6 years aoc can discuss the details, but why bother now? Signaling she is on the right team is enough. Because to get ideas accepted by the public you have to start talking about them way before you're ready to implement them.
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Rectal Death Adept posted:You seem to be projecting a little. I was talking about a, mostly joking, hypothetical future situation where my core assumption was that Trump's victory was assured against Hillary and what I would do in that situation. You're full of poo poo and could easily just spoil ballot in that scenario.
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Crow Jane posted:I feel like voting for Trump to send a message to the DNC is functionally the same as "pretending" to be racist to get out of jury duty. Even if you were doing it ironically, that stink's still on you forever. Except no one dies if you get out of jury duty, because lets be honest, if you're that type of shithead, you're probably gonna okay a death penalty case too.
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CubanMissile posted:Ok, but why would anyone bother to be a busboy at Sisko's restaurant? If I wanted my own restaurant can I just go out and get one? Also to bring this back in track, here's my favorite but if history from my Maine research: "As goes Maine, so goes
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evilweasel posted:to be fair, that is basically what the FDA did this week But they also effectively banned flavored vaping, so... a wash?
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Crow Jane posted:I feel like voting for Trump to send a message to the DNC is functionally the same as "pretending" to be racist to get out of jury duty. Even if you were doing it ironically, that stink's still on you forever. yeah, especially when you can say "uh i've been reading a lot about the scandals of this particular prosecutor's office, because my firm worked on one of them, and I'm not sure I'd be impartial" that one worked for me 
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Rectal Death Adept posted:You seem to be projecting a little. I was talking about a, mostly joking, hypothetical future situation where my core assumption was that Trump's victory was assured against Hillary and what I would do in that situation. mostly jokingly... because when presented with the choice of Hilary or Trump, you'd pull for Don because you're an insufferable shitlord with the privilege to evade any of the blowback his 2nd term would cause.
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Running Hillary is how you get people to vote for Jill Stein.
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Lote posted:You’re defending voting for Trump though. I'm willing to discuss the possibility of doing so in a hypothetical situation, yes. You guys really need to calm down about Donald Trump. This is why you can't have nice things. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Tibalt posted:Also to bring this back in track, here's my favorite but if history from my Maine research: No, the best maine history is one of it's early names was "Terra Onde Di Mala Gente" (the land of bad people)
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Rectal Death Adept posted:You guys really need to calm down about Donald Trump. This is why you can't have nice things. lol please get the gently caress out of this thread
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Rectal Death Adept posted:Acting like I'm trying to defend actual Trump voters is a bit dishonest. You are putting a lot of effort into defending your hypothetical future Trump vote. Maybe people won't think you're as economically anxious as you come across it you stopped doing that.
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Fire Above posted:Running Hillary is how you get people to vote for Jill Stein. I can't control the actions of morons, both in putting Hilary at the top of a ticket, or at choosing to spoil her election by voting for an anti-vaxxer.
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Crow Jane posted:I feel like voting for Trump to send a message to the DNC is functionally the same as "pretending" to be racist to get out of jury duty. Even if you were doing it ironically, that stink's still on you forever. Still my favorite da share z0ne tweet: https://twitter.com/dasharez0ne/status/1033506727352782849 Bit by bit I think that the message is slowly seeping into popular culture. (The right skull would make an excellent avatar imo)
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“It’s a joke, bro!” is a new excuse for voting for Trump that I hadn’t heard yet.
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Tibalt posted:Man if you don't understand the value of spectacle and authenticity in dining in 2018 I don't know what to tell you. I've been a bartender for ten years and there absolutely nothing remotely authentic or spectacular about dining in 2018. The whole thing is a magic show sleight of hand trick where you show people what they want to see and tell people what they want to hear, but really there's a dead dove tucked in your other sleeve.
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I feel like if I made even a motion towards filling in the Trump bubble on my ballot, my hand would rebel and either refuse to do it or put a pen through my eye
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Chilichimp posted:I can't control the actions of morons, both in putting Hilary at the top of a ticket, or at choosing to spoil her election by voting for an anti-vaxxer. sounds like they disagreed that it was "her" election
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Raenir Salazar posted:Hopefully it doesn't cost her committees down the line. I thought this over a little more while washing my balls in the shower, as you do, and I trust that AOC thought this through but there are some nontrivial tactical concerns with how she went about this. If we disregard the responses by other reps to a snotty little freshman upstaging them , there are still two that spring to mind:1) Contact Pelosi beforehand, Y/N? We don't know whether she did, but I think I lean Y on this one because the marginal downside is small. 2) Coming out swinging with those specific policy proposals is definitely a tactical decision. Free college feels like the riskiest initial ask - what if, say, Pelosi is amenable to the other two but feels like free college is underwater on approval or something and wants a different messaging / strategy? Does AOC say "I'm glad we're moving in the right direction and will keep pushing for blah blah blah" (thereby becoming a triangulating Bad Dem  ) or publicly snub the Speaker? I hope it works out! Maybe she mads the optimal decision on every bit of this so far!
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/HarleyRouda/status/1061279636783489026 This is crazy. Incidentally, 538 is keeping a running tally of unresolved races: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-16-races-still-too-close-to-call/ edit: oh poo poo, this is against Dana Rohrabacher, the other guy (in addition to Trump) that one of the House Republican leadership was recorded as saying is probably on Putin's payroll.
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Chilichimp posted:I can't control the actions of morons, both in putting Hilary at the top of a ticket, or at choosing to spoil her election by voting for an anti-vaxxer. We'll let's hope that a super divisive candidate doesn't come out of the primaries in 2020. 
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Stexils posted:sounds like they disagreed that it was "her" election They can do that, but that makes them loving morons. I'm sorry if you disagree and are happy with fascist Trumpland, but I'm not. They could nominate the most insanely insufferable neo-con liberal shithead in the universe... (uh... Joe Manchin, I guess) for President and I' happily pull that lever.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:No, the best maine history is one of it's early names was "Terra Onde Di Mala Gente" (the land of bad people)
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Chilichimp posted:They can do that, but that makes them loving morons. I'm sorry if you disagree and are happy with fascist Trumpland, but I'm not. They could nominate the most insanely insufferable neo-con liberal shithead in the universe... (uh... Joe Manchin, I guess) for President and I' happily pull that lever. it's not third party voters fault that trump won and getting mad at them rather than anyone who bears far more responsibility makes it look like you're just looking for an easy target to vent at.
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Fire Above posted:We'll let's hope that a super divisive candidate doesn't come out of the primaries in 2020. 2020 is going to be a bit of a shitshow, because there will be so many candidates it's not super clear to me that the best candidate will emerge - it's too easy for the winner in Iowa/NH to just be the best candidate in the "lane" with the fewest candidates (i.e. if you have 3x leftists; 2x centrists; 3x charismatic young politicians to pick categories out of a hat, the winner is probably going to be the better centrist just because of how plurality rule works, even if he or she is worse than the best leftist or best charismatic young politician). 2008 was sort of like that, where McCain got left for dead and then everyone else sort of split the ballot and he squeaked through in a way that made almost no sense.
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Chilichimp posted:They can do that, but that makes them loving morons. I'm sorry if you disagree and are happy with fascist Trumpland, but I'm not. They could nominate the most insanely insufferable neo-con liberal shithead in the universe... (uh... Joe Manchin, I guess) for President and I' happily pull that lever. The same Joe Manchin that votes/spews in lockstep with Trump's policy? 
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Stexils posted:it's not third party voters fault that trump won and getting mad at them rather than anyone who bears far more responsibility makes it look like you're just looking for an easy target to vent at. people who chose not to vote against trump chose to make it more likely that trump would win. they're not the only people who helped him win, but they are part of the group of people who helped him win.
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Chilichimp posted:They could nominate the most insanely insufferable neo-con liberal shithead in the universe... (uh... Joe Manchin, I guess) for President and I' happily pull that lever. Which is why you're part of the problem
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:https://twitter.com/colvinj/status/1061224188273483777 Can't have the Executive Comb Over coming unglued on live international television.
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Fire Above posted:We'll let's hope that a super divisive candidate doesn't come out of the primaries in 2020. I'd like to say Democrats learned their lesson, but I have slowly lost all faith in people doing the correct thing over the last decade. If we get a controversial candidate and some faction of democrats stay home, I'm probably going to die fighting for PoC in the American south and my blood can be on their hands too... cuz... ya know... myyyy primary candidate didn't win, or some poo poo, boo fuckin' hoo.
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Horseshoe theory posted:The same Joe Manchin that votes/spews in lockstep with Trump's policy? joe manchin voted against both of trump's signature legislative priorities
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