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Funny Games is one of the most vile and misanthropic films I’ve ever seen, and before anyone chimes in with “but that’s a good thing,” also intellectually bankrupt. And given the ethos of its soon to be me-tooed creator nobody should endorse this garbage.
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Intellectually bankrupt might be going a bit far but Funny Games is certainly not nearly as clever as Haneke thinks it is. I mean he must have really thought it was some genius level poo poo because he remade it shot for shot.
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Nov 9, 2018 16:19
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Basebf555 posted:Intellectually bankrupt might be going a bit far but Funny Games is certainly not nearly as clever as Haneke thinks it is. I mean he must have really thought it was some genius level poo poo because he remade it shot for shot. I feel like he's right. Haneke gave some interviews where he talked about audience reactions and he completely misunderstood why people were reacting a certain way. He's a dumbass and he made a dumbass movie.
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Nov 9, 2018 18:08
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Here's the thing. I'm a big horror movie fan, and I don't watch them to like see a woman get her tits cut off with a chainsaw or whatever. So I end up watching movies like Martyrs only because some idiot told me it's proof that "torture porn" films can be good. So I watch them, and the point is always "You're hosed up for watching this? Why would you want to see this." And I'm like, I don't, douchebag.
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Nov 9, 2018 20:40
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Don't know if I mentioned this one already or if it qualifies as an Action Movie, but I just saw Outlander again for what must be the tenth time. If you like a monster movie with Vikings, go watch it. It is firmly tongue in cheek and has some good actors ( Jim Caviezel, John Hurt and Ron Perlman ) in it. The CGI is serviceable though.
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Nov 9, 2018 21:07
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You can also watch Outland which is an 80s science fiction remake of High Noon with a great cast and cool set design.
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Nov 9, 2018 22:48
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:You can also watch the Outland which is an 80s science fiction remake of High Noon with a great cast and cool set design. 
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Nov 9, 2018 22:51
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Just rewatched The Raid since it's on Netflix how. So gooooooooood.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:23
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Mr Shiny Pants posted:Don't know if I mentioned this one already or if it qualifies as an Action Movie, but I just saw Outlander again for what must be the tenth time. Huh, I have this on my Amazon Prime list and I never knew why. Now I know.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:28
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Basebf555 posted:Intellectually bankrupt might be going a bit far but Funny Games is certainly not nearly as clever as Haneke thinks it is. I mean he must have really thought it was some genius level poo poo because he remade it shot for shot. What's even worse are the posters who get all dramatic and "is your mind blown yet" when they explain the point of those movies, like "The message of Funny Games is that it's YOUR fault this is happening. YOU are directly responsible for this family's death. YOU. Full stop." Human Tornada fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Nov 10, 2018 |
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Nov 10, 2018 01:50
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I think there's a strong undercurrent running through a lot of narrative theory that cynicism and contrarianism are the same thing as having a good idea. Read any thread on 'how I would have ended it' and it's just twenty variations on 'the hero is killed by the villain before/after failing'
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Nov 10, 2018 02:17
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I LOVE that Warzone was brought up here (lol, that gif is golden). Not sure if this has been talked about so much on this forum before but the Netflix Punisher series has some REALLY good stuff to offer if your willing to slog through some of the more tedious storylines in a series that may have been longer than it needed to be. The creation of Jigsaw is quite something... And Daredevil is the best Marvel character there is, so check out that series too. Season 1 has some spectacular fight scenes. Also, speaking of Netflix, The Outlaw King just came out and if you're down with historical action (ala Braveheart)... you shouldn't miss this next installment in cinematic Scottish freeeeedom!! 
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Nov 10, 2018 06:59
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So the three original Rambo movies come out on 4K UHD this week and Best Buy will have them for $7.99 each during black Friday. I've seen the first one and liked it. Are parts 2 and 3 too different from the original to be considered good blind buys?
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Nov 10, 2018 16:19
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They're nothing like the first movie. But if you want to see John Rambo kill a whole lotta people in Vietnam and Afghanistan then go for it. In 3 he's helping the Taliban fight the invading Soviets by supplying them weapons.
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MrBling posted:In 3 he's helping the Taliban fight the invading Soviets by supplying them weapons. 
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Nov 10, 2018 16:46
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It's all Sly's fault.
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Nov 10, 2018 17:47
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Every rambo is a must-watch, for different reasons
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got any sevens posted:Every rambo is a must-watch, for different reasons This guy gets it.
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Nov 10, 2018 21:06
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The fourth is amazing both for being determinedly poe faced, but also featuring some of the worst CGI compositing I've seen in a major film.
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Nov 11, 2018 02:53
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The fourth one is almost like a litmus test to see just how nasty you can make an action film before people stop cheering at the on-screen proceedings.
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Nov 12, 2018 15:18
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The violence in the fourth film is really bizarre in the context of the franchise, because none of the other movies ever even came close to it. The rest have pretty bog standard 80’s action movie violence, and then Rambo drops in and turns into the world’s most intense Ragu commercial in the last twenty minutes.
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Fart City posted:The violence in the fourth film is really bizarre in the context of the franchise, because none of the other movies ever even came close to it. The rest have pretty bog standard 80’s action movie violence, and then Rambo drops in and turns into the world’s most intense Ragu commercial in the last twenty minutes. It was directly addressing some of the criticisms of the earlier films, that Rambo never re-loads, that he never gets injured, and that the violence was sanitized. I think it nicely circles back to First Blood. If this is what warfare in Vietnam was like for Rambo, no wonder he was so screwed up when he got home.
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Nov 12, 2018 18:05
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Yea I think Rambo is a response to how dated and irrelevant the previous sequels had become in the years after they were made. Stallone wanted to get back to a more genuine examination of violence and war, something closer to First Blood. Whether he went too far and kinda made the same mistake just in the opposite direction is down to opinion.
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Nov 12, 2018 18:20
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First Blood is like Rocky in that it was a sincerely acclaimed movie when it came out and then its sequels got so over-the-top they eclipsed that it was somewhat prestigious when it came out. I feel like Rambo II is the movie that made Stallone an action star and nothing else. Before that he'd been nominated for Oscars and he did movies like F.I.S.T. and Nighthawks.
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Nov 12, 2018 21:45
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I saw the fourth Rambo in a cinema, and there was a group of teens (boys and girls) at the front who started off loud and boisterous and "yeah, let's watch some action!" They went very quiet after the first few minutes, there were some walkouts, and I'm pretty sure one of the girls was crying when she left. (Can't imagine she was happy with her date.)
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Nov 12, 2018 22:31
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Wheat Loaf posted:First Blood is like Rocky in that it was a sincerely acclaimed movie when it came out and then its sequels got so over-the-top they eclipsed that it was somewhat prestigious when it came out. You can track it in his physique. He's in pretty good shape for Rocky and Rocky 2, but starting from Rocky 3 and Rambo, he starts looking like a horrifying action figure charicature of himself. He got a lot more serious about his routine and got on a shitload more gear, culminating in his weird Rocky 4 physique, where his massive delts make his traps and head look absolutely tiny.
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Nov 12, 2018 23:18
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Snowman_McK posted:You can track it in his physique. He's in pretty good shape for Rocky and Rocky 2, but starting from Rocky 3 and Rambo, he starts looking like a horrifying action figure charicature of himself. He got a lot more serious about his routine and got on a shitload more gear, culminating in his weird Rocky 4 physique, where his massive delts make his traps and head look absolutely tiny. Yea that's why I can't really just chalk it up to one particular movie. It's just something that Stallone seemed to have decided in his head at some point after Rocky, that his real ticket was to be a huge action star. Then he went about building up his body and by 85 he was a monster.
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Snowman_McK posted:I think there's a strong undercurrent running through a lot of narrative theory that cynicism and contrarianism are the same thing as having a good idea. Read any thread on 'how I would have ended it' and it's just twenty variations on 'the hero is killed by the villain before/after failing'
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Nov 12, 2018 23:26
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Basebf555 posted:Yea that's why I can't really just chalk it up to one particular movie. It's just something that Stallone seemed to have decided in his head at some point after Rocky, that his real ticket was to be a huge action star. Then he went about building up his body and by 85 he was a monster. Most famously Stallone was originally offered the lead role in Beverly Hills Cop, but rewrote the script into what would eventually become Cobra.
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Nov 12, 2018 23:29
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It’s an unjust world that we only got one Cobra.
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Nov 12, 2018 23:32
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"You're the disease, and I'm the cure" in the trailer brought down the house (back in the days when people weren't already spoiled by seeing the trailer 20 times on Youtube before they went to the theater.) people were wilding out and clapping and cheering at that quip in the trailer - impossibly high standards imo.
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Nov 12, 2018 23:42
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Hell I've never seen Cobra and I still know that line.
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Nov 12, 2018 23:43
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I love Cobra because it feels like an over the top parody that would be used as a background gag in another movie, but it actually exists.
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Nov 12, 2018 23:50
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I just watched the scene in question and in the middle of a tense standoff, Sylvester Stallone cracks open a big can of Coors Light and drinks it in full view of the camera for no discernible advantage.
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Nov 12, 2018 23:56
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There's a couple of memories I have of movies during the 80s/early 90s that I'm genuinely sad that younger people won't get to experience. Seeing Willow and knowing it was directed by Ron Howard and not much else and the the initial kind of slow intro into a more idyllic setting followed by the segue into Mad Martigan boasting "I am the greatest swordsmen who ever lived!" and then getting clowned for 45 minutes before the actual reveal of "YOU ARE GREAT!!!!!!!" Seeing Return of the Jedi 3 days after it opened with my mom and knowing deep down in my heart that it was all over after this one and being absolutely euphoric when I walked out of the theater and felt it had the perfect ending to the series. Total Recall's ad campaign just being a bunch of weird poo poo that really didn't tell you anything about the movie and coming after a string of Arnie disappointments and comedies (Kindergarten Cop and Twins are fun, but they aren't exactly primo Arnie material) and the crown erupting when the movie finally showed its hand and revealed it was A Fuckin' Arnie Action Movie Die Hard, a friend recommended it to me, all we knew is that the Moonlighting Guy was in it and it, my friend and I rode the bus and walked for like 30 minutes to see it, I remember the part where John is about to jump off the building and my friend leaned over and said to me "I cannot loving BELIEVE how good this movie is!" (I hear you buddy) And my mom pulling my brother and I out of school to see Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade on opening day. Bless her.
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When I was little I was so easily led by adverts and trailers and marketing. I got so enthusiastic about so many stupid movies. But the thing is, after all that, I didn't actually see most of them in the theatre. I was too young for the original Jurassic Park, but I had it on video and I was super hyped for the second one, and I ended up not seeing it. I was hyped for Batman & Robin; I didn't see it. I was hyped for Wild Wild West; I didn't see it. I was pretty hyped for the Matrix; I didn't see it (though I saw it sooner than the other ones on video). I was hyped for the Mask of Zorro; I still regret that I didn't see it. I was hyped for Tomorrow Never Dies; I didn't see it. I was hyped for both Brendan Fraser Mummy movies and didn't see them until they were out on dvd. One of the few movies I got super hyped for and actually did see was, erm, the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. There's probably others I'm forgetting. Of course, the one movie I was more hyped for than anything, more hyped for than any more I have ever been before or since (there is one thing that ever came even remotely close), the movie I was so hyped for that I think I burned out all the hype I had for other movies, was one I absolutely did get to see. And that movie was, of course, the Phantom Menace. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Nov 13, 2018 |
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Halloween Jack posted:Tell that to Zod's snapped neck. Well, that's not a cynical ending. That's a very optimistic ending, but one where the hero has to make an actual difficult choice (his own species possible future or his adopted home) and people have spent years talking about how cynical and fascist it is. I know you were being facetious and silly, and that's fine. But I think there are a lot of people that confuse cynicism with realism and quality. Otherwise Joe Abercrombie and Mark Lawrence wouldn't have publishing careers. exquisite tea posted:I just watched the scene in question and in the middle of a tense standoff, Sylvester Stallone cracks open a big can of Coors Light and drinks it in full view of the camera for no discernible advantage. A warm beer, too. It's a completely mystifying movie. Describing it as the parody movie from the background of a different show is bang on. It's like if Commando didn't have the self awareness that makes it so fun.
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Nov 13, 2018 00:13
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Snowman_McK posted:A warm beer, too. Still to this day I don't quite know what to make of that scene where he cuts the pizza. Best guess is Stallone thought that was like him giving the character like weird eccentricities or something to make him less one-dimensional? Is it possible Stallone had never eaten a slice of pizza up to that point and nobody wanted to correct him?
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Basebf555 posted:Still to this day I don't quite know what to make of that scene where he cuts the pizza. Best guess is Stallone thought that was like him giving the character like weird eccentricities or something to make him less one-dimensional? Is it possible Stallone had never eaten a slice of pizza up to that point and nobody wanted to correct him? The thing is, it's only like...the third weirdest scene in the movie (behind the beer scene and the robot montage, but just ahead of the bad guys' manifesto)
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Snowman_McK posted:The thing is, it's only like...the third weirdest scene in the movie (behind the beer scene and the robot montage, but just ahead of the bad guys' manifesto) Beer scene to me is less bizarre because it's explainable as Stallone's idea of a badass moment to show how totally not concerned Cobretti is by this shootout. I can't reason out what he could've been thinking with the pizza except for like I said before, maybe trying to be like an eccentric noir-style detective? I dunno that's probably being generous.
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