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freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

FizFashizzle posted:

Hayes is legit cool and good, has a piss tape hat

he called it gross and didn't wear it :colbert:

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FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







freckle posted:

he called it gross and didn't wear it :colbert:

that's what they made him say, obviously.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007



Bring back Hard-tack.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Sundowning is a bad descriptor for trump because it implies that there is a time of the day when he is functional.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







CuddleCryptid posted:

Sundowning is a bad descriptor for trump because it implies that there is a time of the day when he is functional.

Not necessarily. It's just a marked decline in function.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


yeah but his brain is always melting.

Iron Twinkie
Apr 20, 2001

BOOP

Space Gopher posted:

I'm arguing three things:

- Real, single-payer Medicare for All is an incredibly important policy goal. It will be difficult to achieve, but it's worth every scrap of difficulty.

- There are a lot of people in power who have seen that it is a difficult fight, and decided to give up. They are wrong to do this.

- Nevertheless, they're right that it will be incredibly difficult. The response shouldn't be, "no, you're wrong, it's super easy! all you need to do is try! look, even these vague polls say I'm right." Instead, we should acknowledge that it will be difficult, and that the Republicans are not going to come out, stand up and clap, and support M4A once it's a solidified policy. Despite that, the proper response is, "it's incredibly hard, and worth doing anyway".

Honestly, I agree. It's a difficult but necessary fight and I'm not living under some illusion that going against the interest of a massive, powerful, for profit institution is not a hard fight.

RasperFat
Jul 11, 2006

Uncertainty is inherently unsustainable. Eventually, everything either is or isn't.

eke out posted:

Florida Update: Bill Nelson's deficit is down to 12.5k votes before the hand recount, with some undefined number of overseas military ballots still to be counted.

Close enough that if the undervote in Broward really does come down to machine error, he has a chance of taking it, which is probably why everyone on the right is so terrified.

I hope I’m wrong, but I’ve also got a bad feeling in the back of my head that both Scott and DeSantis may have done some actual vote tampering, given their reaction to any recount happening.

It’s probably unlikely given how hard it is to coordinate and how incompetent most conservatives are, but at the same time that also means they are stupid enough to try.

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012
I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least one umbrella related tantrum that crossed the line into "we can't let the public see him like this" territory.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

Babylon Astronaut posted:

I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least one umbrella related tantrum that crossed the line into "we can't let the public see him like this" territory.

Honestly I kinda had the thought there could be a decline in his fine motor skills when that happened, but didn't want to seem too :tinfoil:y

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
Steve Kornaki is cool too.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.

Nonsense posted:



Bring back Hard-tack.

The Cheeto-in-Chief denies our brave troops the Texas Toast they earned fighting for our freedom!

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe

Crow Jane posted:

Honestly I kinda had the thought there could be a decline in his fine motor skills when that happened, but didn't want to seem too :tinfoil:y

I'm not sure self-control is part of his, well, anything.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1061287125180669955

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


RasperFat posted:

I hope I’m wrong, but I’ve also got a bad feeling in the back of my head that both Scott and DeSantis may have done some actual vote tampering, given their reaction to any recount happening.

It’s probably unlikely given how hard it is to coordinate and how incompetent most conservatives are, but at the same time that also means they are stupid enough to try.

i think it may just be a tantrum that their voter suppression may not have worked. i don't know how the laws changed but if i remember reading correctly a full and proper recount that would've given gore florida wasn't how it's done under their laws so even if the court hadn't illegally stopped the count they could've still stolen it.

https://twitter.com/PatBlanchfield/status/1061338616276942848

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

KickerOfMice posted:

I'm not sure self-control is part of his, well, anything.

Yeah, his general lifelong shittiness definitely complicates things

Chemtrailologist
Jul 8, 2007
If I had to guess, I'd say the bad weather that kept him away from the ceremony today wasn't rain, but wind. He couldn't wear his MAGA hat so he decided not to go. Also between the Whitaker thing, the midterms and Macron insulting him earlier, he's in a really bad mood.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

Zwabu posted:

The Overton Window on discussing changes to health care in the U.S. has changed drastically since the campaign for ACA. In large part, IMO, because of its passage and a great number of people having had healthcare who never did before for a while now.

I would say various factors include:

-successful passage of major (if incremental) change to the health care system showed that changes to the health care system are in fact possible. Prior to this it had been decades since anything had been done and the baseline position of a lot of Americans was still "greatest health care system in the world", not just among righties.

-many people were in fact helped and got insurance, particularly through Medicaid expansion, that never were insured before. This has changed the political landscape on the issue.

Now we even have red states breaking down and accepting the Medicaid expansion.

You can certainly argue, reasonably, that Obama and the Democrats didn't go for nearly enough in the ACA campaign, at least in terms of advocacy, or as a more aggressive negotiating posture. But the political culture at the time was very different and the idea of ANY change to the lovely rear end US health care system was literally heresy.

The passage of and existence of ACA has helped substantially change the support of Americans for more and better change.

It is a battle won that has moved the front of the battle going forward.

I would argue that the popularity of the idea of Medicare for all and other universal coverage solutions is far greater and part of open discussion as a result of the ACA. Now you can argue that this is all just because the ACA is such a miserable failure and people are hungry for more, and there is some argument to be made there, but I think a large part of the change is also because of the successes of the ACA in helping people.

It's worth noting that the Democrats have been trying to achieve mass healthcare reform since 1949. It's somewhat understandable that many people in the party were desperate to pass what they could back in 2009/10, since they'd been fighting for something for 70 years only to be stymied by both Republican opposition and party infighting (god dammit Carter).

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Ego-bot posted:

If I had to guess, I'd say the bad weather that kept him away from the ceremony today wasn't rain, but wind. He couldn't wear his MAGA hat so he decided not to go. Also between the Whitaker thing, the midterms and Macron insulting him earlier, he's in a really bad mood.



Mod edit: too big

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Ego-bot posted:

If I had to guess, I'd say the bad weather that kept him away from the ceremony today wasn't rain, but wind. He couldn't wear his MAGA hat so he decided not to go. Also between the Whitaker thing, the midterms and Macron insulting him earlier, he's in a really bad mood.

i'm sure macron saying that he and donnie will have fun oil adventures in the middle east will cheer him right back up

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

From forever (well 4 hours) ago, but who are the credible challengers to Pelosi other than Tim Ryan who has...issues that make me doubt he can get the caucus behind him.

Joe Crowley obviously would've been a choice but he's obviously not going to be it.

Are there other Reps who have experience/are good at keeping everyone in line out there?

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

axeil posted:

From forever (well 4 hours) ago, but who are the credible challengers to Pelosi other than Tim Ryan who has...issues that make me doubt he can get the caucus behind him.

Joe Crowley obviously would've been a choice but he's obviously not going to be it.

Are there other Reps who have experience/are good at keeping everyone in line out there?

barbara lee

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

axeil posted:

From forever (well 4 hours) ago, but who are the credible challengers to Pelosi other than Tim Ryan who has...issues that make me doubt he can get the caucus behind him.

Joe Crowley obviously would've been a choice but he's obviously not going to be it.

Are there other Reps who have experience/are good at keeping everyone in line out there?

The name on everyone's lips for the left is Barbara Lee. I don't know what kind of leadership experience she has but she has the politics and she's been in the House for a long time. :shrug:

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


barbara lee is v good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPYvxtmOgto

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.

axeil posted:

From forever (well 4 hours) ago, but who are the credible challengers to Pelosi other than Tim Ryan who has...issues that make me doubt he can get the caucus behind him.

Joe Crowley obviously would've been a choice but he's obviously not going to be it.

Are there other Reps who have experience/are good at keeping everyone in line out there?

Barbara Lee seems cool.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

RasperFat posted:

It was pretty awesome how badly the screwed up with her.

Her first big “serious journalism” set was an interview with Steve Bannon, in which she coddled the white supremacist.

Shortly after that, she was SHOCKED that NBC actually does basic fact checking for the stories they run. She thought it was weird she had to actually research before being able to release a story.

Kelly then proceeded to be a dislikable and incompetent host on whatever time slot or format they tried her on.

Predictably, she kept saying stupid racist things often enough that she was actually netting negative viewers for the shows following her. NBC viewers are turned off by such open bigotry, so she got the axe.

The entire fiasco was an excellent case study of right wing pundits being incapable of real journalism. Megan Kelly is one of the most “reasonable” right wing pundits, too. It should have really been a wake up call for the MSM to stop respecting Fox and even more unhinged outlets, but :shrug:

I thought h\this was Jones and he hosed her up because he also recored the thing(lol why the gently caress you ever allow this) and released his uneditted footage that showed him clowning her.



*looks at map*

Ah finally the teleport used by Mr. Ben Ghazi has charged up huh?

eke out
Feb 24, 2013




lmao i hadn't seen this

https://twitter.com/RepBarbaraLee/status/907733604855422982

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Mind_Taker posted:

As much as I really want it to be a machine error in Broward, looking at the sample ballot the design really is poor and I could see that being the reason so few votes were cast for the Senate race.

Losing such an important election to poor ballot design (again) is more maddening than theft, in my opinion. (Because they steal them anyway)

https://twitter.com/Jeannie127/status/1061279771441709057

Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Nov 10, 2018

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006


Having Barbara Lee, Maxine Waters, and Eddie Bernice Johnson as an all-black-woman House Dem triumvirate would own so many bones.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Nonsense posted:



Bring back Hard-tack.
Speaking of all of those soldiers down at the border now, have they even said how long they are going to be there?

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

terrorist ambulance posted:

It's not even a take, and I know its trite, but I really do enjoy thinking about how apoplectic Fox would be if the bisexual Kenyan socialist Hussein Obummer did this kind of poo poo. We would be hearing about it a decade later

Not going to a ceremony for the 100th anniversary of the end of the 2nd worst war in human history is loving shameful and an impeachable offense.

I'm so loving mad at our loving toddler president, this is a disgrace.

I'll be celebrating the 100th Armistice Day tomorrow, I hope everyone else does too.

RasperFat
Jul 11, 2006

Uncertainty is inherently unsustainable. Eventually, everything either is or isn't.

PhazonLink posted:

I thought h\this was Jones and he hosed her up because he also recored the thing(lol why the gently caress you ever allow this) and released his uneditted footage that showed him clowning her.

poo poo you’re right it was Alex Jones.

But yeah he released tapes showing she wanted to give Jones a puff piece.

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe

FlamingLiberal posted:

Speaking of all of those soldiers down at the border now, have they even said how long they are going to be there?

Well, it's the war to end all wars, so let's see if it's drizzly.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Mooseontheloose posted:

I think 20 million American's would disagree with you

Almost the exact no. of people enrolled in expanded Medicaid!

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1061344542379687936

:lol:

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

KickerOfMice posted:

Well, it's the war to end all wars, so let's see if it's drizzly.

little known fact: the christmas peace was actually because there was rain so they called it off

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

Young Freud posted:

Having Barbara Lee, Maxine Waters, and Eddie Bernice Johnson as an all-black-woman House Dem triumvirate would own so many bones.

Oh man, combined with the fact Elijah Cummings has pledged to make his life miserable, Donald's head might actually explode

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe

corn in the bible posted:

little known fact: the christmas peace was actually because there was rain so they called it off

Let a TrumpThread refugee insult the boob with a one-liner! :cmon:

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod



sorry, the shameful econ professor deleted his tweet

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Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

axeil posted:

Not going to a ceremony for the 100th anniversary of the end of the 2nd worst war in human history is loving shameful and an impeachable offense.

I'm so loving mad at our loving toddler president, this is a disgrace.

I'll be celebrating the 100th Armistice Day tomorrow, I hope everyone else does too.
Lol

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