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Any early impressions of Keyforge? Is it going to be a money sink? How about Betrayal Legacy? Is it Pandemic or Seafall?
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Nov 11, 2018 16:15
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There’s a Keyforge thread. I think we'll know lots more this coming weekend.
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Nov 11, 2018 16:27
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Lots of people are liking Keyforge. I didn't really care for it. Game was very novel, didn't play like anything I've played before and had lots of interesting new mechanics. I thought the theme was a complete zero. While there was a lot of new and interesting gameplay and mechanics I didn't see before, I just didn't have that much fun with it. It felt more like playing multiplayer solitaire than a 1v1 game.
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Nov 11, 2018 17:56
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The local Asmodee demonstration bod is in my regular game group, so I've had a chance to see Keyforge played with the starter set. It had the potential to be good, but that was completely erased for me by the inability to alter your deck.
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Nov 11, 2018 18:03
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Jedit posted:The local Asmodee demonstration bod is in my regular game group, so I've had a chance to see Keyforge played with the starter set. It had the potential to be good, but that was completely erased for me by the inability to alter your deck. One of the key (heh) arguments I’ve heard about why people like this game is that you can have a unique deck that you’re forced to master instead of buying more packs like magic. It’s asinine since nothing stops you from buying more decks either. It seems what these people really want is something like bacon or exceed but they don’t know about it.
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Nov 11, 2018 18:09
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Chill la Chill posted:One of the key (heh) arguments I’ve heard about why people like this game is that you can have a unique deck that you’re forced to master instead of buying more packs like magic. It’s asinine since nothing stops you from buying more decks either. It seems what these people really want is something like bacon or exceed but they don’t know about it. This. I have no interest in deck building probably because to get good at it it takes a lot of practice which I don’t want to commit to. Much more interested in taking a procedural deck to see what I can do for it. If it sucks then it doesn’t feel like it’s my lovely deck building skills are bad, just that I got a bad deck. Noting that I have no idea what bacon or exceed is.
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Nov 11, 2018 18:16
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At $10 for a deck the barrier to entry is so low I'll probably give Keyforge a shot even though yeah I already have 1v1 games with prebuilt decks to fill that niche. I wonder what people who go in deep will end up doing with their lesser used decks as they accumulate.
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Nov 11, 2018 18:43
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M a x posted:At $10 for a deck the barrier to entry is so low I'll probably give Keyforge a shot even though yeah I already have 1v1 games with prebuilt decks to fill that niche. I think there will certainly be sellable decks but it’s going to be awhile before we know what those are. You could also sell cards if players used opaque sleeves, no matter what FFG's intent is.
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Nov 11, 2018 18:53
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Mayveena posted:I think there will certainly be sellable decks but it’s going to be awhile before we know what those are. You could also sell cards if players used opaque sleeves, no matter what FFG's intent is. Nah, the cards have the deck names on the front as well, and aside from replacing damaged ones, 0 individual value.
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Nov 11, 2018 18:55
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I still contend the best way to play Keyforge will be to throw in a handful of decks and draft the cards and build your own.
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Nov 11, 2018 19:00
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If by best, you mean terrible, yes.
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Nov 11, 2018 19:31
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thespaceinvader posted:Nah, the cards have the deck names on the front as well, and aside from replacing damaged ones, 0 individual value. That’s not going to stop people. There won’t be competitive play with them of course but I do predict groups of friends will play with built decks.
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Nov 11, 2018 19:43
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Bottom Liner posted:I still contend the best way to play Keyforge will be to throw in a handful of decks and draft the cards and build your own. I don’t know if it will be the best but it’s going to happen, absolutely. There is a strong desire to win with some people and if takes playing with the cards they want to play with then it will happen.
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Nov 11, 2018 19:45
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M a x posted:At $10 for a deck the barrier to entry is so low I'll probably give Keyforge a shot even though yeah I already have 1v1 games with prebuilt decks to fill that niche. The starter set is $40 which sort of rains on that for me
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Nov 11, 2018 20:27
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Mojo Jojo posted:The starter set is $40 which sort of rains on that for me The starter is a rip-off. You get two basic beginner decks and tokens and two regular decks. Just save $20 and buy two decks and use any number of bits and dice to track stuff. It's not like a lot of FFG games where the starter comes with critical stuff.
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Nov 11, 2018 20:45
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Bottom Liner posted:The starter is a rip-off. You get two basic beginner decks and tokens and two regular decks. Just save $20 and buy two decks and use any number of bits and dice to track stuff. It's not like a lot of FFG games where the starter comes with critical stuff. That's for all the counters /tokens and jazz, honestly not needed. I played first time without it,
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Nov 11, 2018 21:02
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Mugaaz posted:That's for all the counters /tokens and jazz, honestly not needed. I played first time without it, Yes, that is what I am recommending.
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Nov 11, 2018 21:09
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Mayveena posted:Noting that I have no idea what bacon or exceed is. BaCon is a discord meme abbreviation for BattleCon, much like ChEx. Not sure about exceed either
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Nov 11, 2018 21:31
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Exceed is discord talk for 18xx anime rethemes
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Nov 11, 2018 21:40
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BattleCON (Bacon) and Exceed are both card games that simulate fighting games. Each character has their own unique cards, making them something akin to Keyforge.
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Nov 11, 2018 21:45
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Mayveena posted:This. I have no interest in deck building probably because to get good at it it takes a lot of practice which I don’t want to commit to. Much more interested in taking a procedural deck to see what I can do for it. If it sucks then it doesn’t feel like it’s my lovely deck building skills are bad, just that I got a bad deck. Battlecon and exceed. They’re fighting games in card game form but have that sort of unique mastery for each fighter.
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Nov 11, 2018 21:54
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Bottom Liner posted:Exceed is discord talk for 18xx anime rethemes Oh i wasn’t sure if we had settled on that or 18Totoro
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Nov 11, 2018 22:21
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I bought an MDF laser-cut insert for a game, but it stinks to high heaven of burned wood. I know that's part of the lasering process, but its like it didn't get extracted properly. Any idea how to deodorize it besides just leaving it out for a few days?
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Nov 11, 2018 22:21
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PRADA SLUT posted:I bought an MDF laser-cut insert for a game, but it stinks to high heaven of burned wood. I know that's part of the lasering process, but its like it didn't get extracted properly. Any idea how to deodorize it besides just leaving it out for a few days? I would think the easiest way would be to prime it? I'm totally guessing though.
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Nov 11, 2018 22:29
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Mugaaz posted:I would think the easiest way would be to prime it? I'm totally guessing though. I've heard you can prime / seal / etc it, but I was hoping to not have to do that. I also don't want primer negatively reacting with cards over time.
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Nov 11, 2018 22:33
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Throw it in a zip lock with some baking soda for a few days, maybe?
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Nov 11, 2018 22:47
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Take up smoking.
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Nov 11, 2018 22:56
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PRADA SLUT posted:I've heard you can prime / seal / etc it, but I was hoping to not have to do that. I also don't want primer negatively reacting with cards over time. how would primer interact with cards? If you dont want to use primer, try something like testors dull/gloss cote.
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Nov 11, 2018 23:03
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M a x posted:At $10 for a deck the barrier to entry is so low I'll probably give Keyforge a shot even though yeah I already have 1v1 games with prebuilt decks to fill that niche. Yeah I'm planning on picking up a deck and bringing stuff with me to use as components at Pax U since it's so cheap. May as well try it.
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Nov 12, 2018 01:01
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Isn't keyforge's most direct competition blue moons legends?
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Nov 12, 2018 01:07
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PRADA SLUT posted:I've heard you can prime / seal / etc it, but I was hoping to not have to do that. I also don't want primer negatively reacting with cards over time. Leave it out for a few days to air out, giving it sunlight will speed up the process. If you're desperate, wrap tightly in tin foil and put it the oven at low temperature (no more than 170F) for an hour or two. Then let it cool to room temperature before opening. But that's a bit risky and I wouldn't recommend it if it is at all avoidable. I do a lot of laser cutting, MDF and plywood cut nicely but end up smelling like a campfire for a bit. Good laser cutting tends to minimize the sooty-ness. Sanding gets rid of sooty edges but is a huge PITA imo.
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Nov 12, 2018 03:14
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LobsterTrap just finished, and as always it was the highlight of our year. The first game I played was "how do we maximize gaming time given we have an infant and a preschooler". Kids ruin everything. New to me: Majolica felt much like Azul but with a bit more game. Fine, would play again. Century: Eastern Wonders was better than I expected given the antipathy I've seen. Pick up and deliver and move around version of, naturally, Century: Spice Road. I'd play it again but don't want to own it. Nefertiti of all things, I'd never even heard of it, but it's apparently *another* Egyptian themed auction game. I liked it, maybe even more than Amun-Re, but it definitely dragged a bit compared to Ra. Brass: Birmingham was a doozy. I'd never played anything related to it (old brass, lancashire, whichever of steam/age of steam/age of industry/whatever was like brass if any) before. I came in 2nd of 4 while everyone else had played. I discussed this in a previous post. Welcome to... uuuuuugh if this is what roll-n-writes are, I don't like them. Boring press your luck no interaction whatsoever. Decrypto was as good as people say, but I found it way more stressful than any codenames variant, and so I need to be in the right mood. Highlights: I played motherforkin four games of Shogi and won all four against the same opponent who crushes me in go every year. Holy poo poo this game is seriously the best, and benefits so much from playing in person with a nice set. First two I mated with side pawns, third was a brutal five minute destruction of his castle, and last game was a long drawn out game where I actually had a real castle.     Riichi Mah Jongg like every year, we played into the wee hours Saturday. Beautiful game. Pax Renaissance I had played an aborted game of last year, 4p, and it took foreeeever. This year I demanded 3p or I wouldn't play, and with a rules refresher, it still took almost 3 hours but I think I could actually play quickly next time. I enjoyed it *way* more this year, for sure, and plan to try it again next year. Brilliant, very hard to understand game, it essentially took me almost two full games to understand how to accomplish things. Not how to win, how to get anything at all done. Assuming the living rules are to be trusted, I came in 2nd, it went to prestige and I was tied with 2 and the winner had more florins left than me. If not, I tied for first wooo!
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Nov 12, 2018 03:27
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Is there a card box that isn't ugly as gently caress? I've got a bunch of assorted deck boxes with various card games and the like, and I want a place to store them that isn't a white cardboard box.
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Nov 12, 2018 05:20
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Today I went by Cafe Mox and there was a big demo of Keyforge and I can't remember when I've NO THANKSed out of a room so quickly. My friends and I couldn't get a table in the cafe so we went back to my place and played A Study In Emerald 1st edition (my first time). It was OK? Hard to judge after just one play.
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Nov 12, 2018 05:36
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PRADA SLUT posted:Is there a card box that isn't ugly as gently caress? I've got a bunch of assorted deck boxes with various card games and the like, and I want a place to store them that isn't a white cardboard box. https://ultimateguard.com/en/arkhive/arkhive-400 I have this for my Star Wars cube and it's nice as hell but pricey. They make a bigger one that holds playmats and tokens and stuff too.
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Nov 12, 2018 05:43
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PRADA SLUT posted:Is there a card box that isn't ugly as gently caress? I've got a bunch of assorted deck boxes with various card games and the like, and I want a place to store them that isn't a white cardboard box. DEX Protection boxes are great and sturdy as hell. They magnetically close. Dualists are amazing for small sizes (they hold a double-sleeved Commander Magic deck fine with room for extra tokens) and the Supreme Game Chest should be big enough for anything where you'd want separate compartments for different components.
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Nov 12, 2018 05:45
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Bottom Liner posted:Star Wars cube I'm listening
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Nov 12, 2018 06:27
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The Journey Fraternity posted:I'm listening http://starwarsthegathering.com/ it's pretty fun 
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Nov 12, 2018 06:43
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Bottom Liner posted:http://starwarsthegathering.com/ That dude must have a literal dump truck of C&D letters on his front lawn.
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Nov 12, 2018 13:53
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If someone shows you a pretty small box game called Silk that appears to have an interesting rule set when looking through the rulebook, run as far away as possible. It’s so sad that games can still be published being broke as hell from a single playthrough. I don’t even want to spend any more time talking about it because I think it’s a relatively obscure Essen game this year. But Walking in Burano and Fertility are both neat quick light strategy games worth playing a couple times at least. Neither really has legs but there are too many games out there anyway.
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