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Squinty posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...m=.c0fc8ef30711  ho-ly poo poo.
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Richard Ojeda has declared his candidacy for president.
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Ague Proof posted:Richard Ojeda has declared his candidacy for president. the crazy bastard might fight Trump at a debate if he gets that far
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Nov 12, 2018 06:26
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i am harry posted:There are literally hundreds of millions of acres of fallow land in the US. Hundreds of millions more still devoted to growing soybeans for export. None of these acres contain paramilitary troops willing to kill children and impale them on sticks. This country has the space, Mr. Cotton. Aren't there also something like 15 or 18 million empty houses in the US? Or housing for 15-18 million, I don't the exact metric they were using. Either way, there's no shortage of space or even houses.
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Nov 12, 2018 06:28
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RaySmuckles posted:i think it should be pretty clear that joe biden hanging a medal around george loving bush's neck should immediately disqualify any of his future political ambitions It's a baby-step up from lionizing henry kissinger, but barely. Dem pols need to make some new friends.
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Nov 12, 2018 06:31
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Willa Rogers posted:It's a baby-step up from lionizing henry kissinger, but barely. Well you see they all go to the same country club.
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Nov 12, 2018 06:34
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https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1061772260099416065 Looks like some more fraudulent ballots came in. The Republican nominee would have been the next Brian Kemp. He wanted to stop ballots from being printed in Spanish in 2020.
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Nov 12, 2018 06:37
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Willa Rogers posted:It's a baby-step up from lionizing henry kissinger, but barely. The Fellow Travellers blog has some good pieces on a left-wing foreign policy, fwiw. A lot of it is "Stop engaging in stupid loving wars right now you idiots," obviously, but it's good to see it spelled out in a broader foreign policy.
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I keep doing a double-take at Steve Gaynor because the one I'm familiar with is very much not the same guy.
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Rectal Death Adept posted:I think we should investigate all politicians as thoroughly as we do Trump. Jason Chaffetz feels very slighted by this post.
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Deified Data posted:AZ and FL still in play? I assume there's no new developments if we're not talking about them. Florida is a who knows, Sinema is almost certain at this point and now maybe the AZ SoS could flip? Niiice.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:I wonder how The_Donald is doing tonight. Maybe things calmed dow... Oh so NOW you believe the 'lying media'.  Regarding the initial election calls, that is.
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Nov 12, 2018 06:50
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Deified Data posted:AZ and FL still in play? I assume there's no new developments if we're not talking about them. AZ is at the point of virtually being in the bag. FL started it's recount today. Two big Dem areas are already saying they won't be able to finish the machine recount in time, especially not for all three contested races, and the Sec of State said gently caress you, we go with whatever number you have at the deadline. So that's a bomb waiting to go off. Also I think I saw something that said the State GOP wants the State Police involved in the recount because of course.
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Nov 12, 2018 06:51
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Carlosologist posted:the crazy bastard might fight Trump at a debate if he gets that far If someone at a presidential debate yanks their shirt off over their head and challenges the opponent to a fight, I'd probably vote for them.
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Nov 12, 2018 06:52
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:If someone at a presidential debate yanks their shirt off over their head and challenges the opponent to a fight, I'd probably vote for them. A brain-addled Trump is the most likely person to do this and none of us want to see that.
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Sanguinia posted:AZ is at the point of virtually being in the bag. FL started it's recount today. Two big Dem areas are already saying they won't be able to finish the machine recount in time, especially not for all three contested races, and the Sec of State said gently caress you, we go with whatever number you have at the deadline. So that's a bomb waiting to go off. Also I think I saw something that said the State GOP wants the State Police involved in the recount because of course. There are going to be a lot more lawsuits than the ones already pending.
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:If someone at a presidential debate yanks their shirt off over their head and challenges the opponent to a fight, I'd probably vote for them. Being the winner of the Primary Rumble qualifies a candidate for right of first refusal on the VP slot.
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Not a Step posted:Being the winner of the Primary Rumble qualifies a candidate for right of first refusal on the VP slot. Finally, political reforms we can all get behind! Also not seen this posted: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018..._8gd4mKK4I7dJAE I post this as someone who likes Bernie quite a lot. But us white people have got to reckon with the fact he's got some problematic stuff with racism going on.
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Ms Adequate posted:Finally, political reforms we can all get behind! I, too, remember when Bernard Sanders wrote fondly of using domestic slaves and later even refused court orders to release his slaves. Very problematic. He should be like the other candidates that are very sensitive to these issues. sure, he can do better, we all can do better, we should push each other to be better; what is more problematic and telling is how these headlines are used for character assassination rather than actually seeking to improve society (not always the fault of the author, possibly editor's decision)
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FlamingLiberal posted:The State GOP can't order the FDLE though. The governor would have to put that in writing and he has nothing to give them, so he won't. It's 2000 all over again. Florida GOP you suck.
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Ms Adequate posted:Finally, political reforms we can all get behind! i really am looking forward to the next few years of smears against bernie. their main attack is "In neither statement did Sanders indict voters for backing racist candidates,". go down a few more paragraphs, and there is a gillum quote in which he says “I’m not calling Mr. DeSantis a racist, I’m simply saying the racists believe he’s a racist.” so bernie says the same thing (if not slightly more direct) than gillum. the article also points out that hillary clinton's deplorables speech became a rallying cry for trump supporters because it called them racists, and that calling racist voters racists is politically unwise. why should bernie repeat the mistakes of clinton's campaign?
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Nov 12, 2018 08:18
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Bernie Sanders is the rightmost compromise candidate I will vote for in the 2020 election.
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:If someone at a presidential debate yanks their shirt off over their head and challenges the opponent to a fight, I'd probably vote for them. The lengths people go to justify voting for Trump is a bit much.
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Nov 12, 2018 08:47
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It's already been posted but here's an article, for people unfamiliar with Richard Ojeda: https://theintercept.com/2018/11/11/richard-ojeda-2020-president/ quote:RICHARD OJEDA is running for president. Ojeda, a West Virginia state senator and retired U.S. Army major, lost his congressional bid in the state’s 3rd District on Tuesday, but saw the largest swing of Trump voters toward Democrats in any district around the country — overperforming 2016 by more than 35 points. Still, in a district Donald Trump carried by 49 points, Ojeda, who rose to prominence leading teacher strikes in West Virginia, lost by 12 points.
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He's a non starter having voted for Trump, which is a shame because otherwise he seems to 'get it', at least from that article.
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Mantis42 posted:He's a non starter having voted for Trump, which is a shame because otherwise he seems to 'get it', at least from that article. Dude should maybe start a little lower than President, do his penance, then come back and go again.
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Leading teacher strikes owns at least.
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I'm not even talking about penance in this case. Having the guy you're running against be able to say "even my opponent thinks I should be president" is a pretty big own.
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Nov 12, 2018 08:58
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Not a Step posted:Bernie Sanders is the rightmost compromise candidate I will vote for in the 2020 election. "Rightmost compromise candidate." loving lol. Our very own flavor of "Chud who endlessly whines about what enormous liberals Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz are," except the chud will actually vote.
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I am open to better candidates. Bernie is old and has some shameful right wing opinions and defers to decorum frequently. I would hold my nose and vote for the shameful slightly left of center Sanders, but I would prefer an actual leftist candidate.
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Not a Step posted:I am open to better candidates. Bernie is old and has some shameful right wing opinions and defers to decorum frequently. I would hold my nose and vote for the shameful slightly left of center Sanders, but I would prefer an actual leftist candidate. A good, informed, compassionate voter.
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Not a Step posted:I am open to better candidates. Bernie is old and has some shameful right wing opinions and defers to decorum frequently. I would hold my nose and vote for the shameful slightly left of center Sanders, but I would prefer an actual leftist candidate. The #1 sign of good posting is, of course, taking about yourself (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Bernie Sanders isn't really a socialist, he just plays one on TV. Maybe when he was young and idolized Eugene Debs, but there is a distinct lack of Marxist thought in his policy prescriptions or speeches. Basically he's a New Deal Democrat and 50 years ago that was the moderate, centrist position.
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Majorian posted:Gillibrand's opposition to BDS puts her into a similar league as the other two. I'm glad she no longer supports the bill that outright criminalized it, but still, she's not as good of a candidate as I think you want her to be. that's a thing i'm entirely willing to add to the Gillibrand File but your vague implication isn't entirely wrong, i want her to be good because she's a safety net if (allah forbid) something happens with bernie and warren fails to successfully tie her campaign shoelaces and no other Good Candidates run edit: i just so far also think she's Actually Good, although i'm convinceable as to where she is on the Good Scale theflyingorc posted:The #1 sign of good posting is, of course, taking about yourself I would like to note that I have never, to my knowledge, posted about Mr (?) Not A Step Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Nov 12, 2018 |
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Mantis42 posted:Bernie Sanders isn't really a socialist, he just plays one on TV. Maybe when he was young and idolized Eugene Debs, but there is a distinct lack of Marxist thought in his policy prescriptions or speeches. Basically he's a New Deal Democrat and 50 years ago that was the moderate, centrist position. The traditional name is a social democrat.
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Ardennes posted:The traditional name is a social democrat. he identifies as a democratic socialist, but I'm hoping that when 2023 rolls around we'll be arguing about whether President Sanders should be sent to a reeducation camp (spoiler alert: I'd be arguing for "no" and would receive the appropriate level of vitriol)
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So here's a question. I live in a red state where the Democratic party had been really toothless. Nobody gave a poo poo about our rep race because they assumed an R would win it(and he did). What can I do to start changing that now?
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bentacos posted:So here's a question. I live in a red state where the Democratic party had been really toothless. Nobody gave a poo poo about our rep race because they assumed an R would win it(and he did). What can I do to start changing that now? If your area is vehemently anti-democrat, run as an independent. If it is not, attend party meetings and start organizing yourself. There might even be a thread or two about people in similar situations sharing stories and strategies.
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bentacos posted:So here's a question. I live in a red state where the Democratic party had been really toothless. Nobody gave a poo poo about our rep race because they assumed an R would win it(and he did). What can I do to start changing that now? The bare minimum is to vote every chance you get. Next up from that is volunteering for the local Democratic office. I hear you, friend. My current rep's Raul loving Labrador (HFC loser). Next up is this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk0zIt0CskI Look at his finger the whole time. Look at it!!!!
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