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The Glumslinger posted:Tribalism is a hell of a thing Yeah sadly the Palestinian part of that is still a giant loving hurdle in a lot of places. We got Rashida but once she won the primary she started getting hammered by all sides for either being an antisemitic terrorist, or an Israel loving sellout. Thankfully her seat is secure enough she could issue a polite "gently caress israel" statement and put that to rest.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I will give you male, but it seems like black and hispanic people make up as much of a percentage of communities for fortnite or call of duty or other popular games as you'd expect them to. Is there any evidence it's wildly out of proportions beyond just what demographics would make them be? Same reason why we assume Male despite women making up almost half of the group quote:According to a Entertainment Software Association survey, women players in the United States increased from 40% in 2010 to 48% in 2014. Today, despite the dominant perception that most gamers are men, the ratio of female to male gamers is balanced, mirroring the population at large. They just don't advertise it because the quarter of the group that is composed of chuds is so wildly harassing that it isnt worth the effort.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I will give you male, but it seems like black and hispanic people make up as much of a percentage of communities for fortnite or call of duty or other popular games as you'd expect them to. Is there any evidence it's wildly out of proportions beyond just what demographics would make them be? Honestly, no I don't. But gamers would have to be disproportionately minority (compared to US demographics) to not be majority white.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I will give you male, but it seems like black and hispanic people make up as much of a percentage of communities for fortnite or call of duty or other popular games as you'd expect them to. Is there any evidence it's wildly out of proportions beyond just what demographics would make them be? I think by gaming community they mean the "gamers" thing as in people who have an identity crafted around the hobby as mentioned upthread. I feel like i'm having a moment of crapbrains, or a matter of not following a lot of gaming personalities, but I can't think of a ton of non-white big gaming personalities, at least outside of FGC.
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Florida Republicans committed mass voter fraud by email  Literally tried to steal an election openly and brazenly, and pandhandle chuds are pretending it was all above the table and all the proper forms to do it were made. https://twitter.com/mitzi4bay/status/1062017184313081856
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mrfreeze posted:Thankfully her seat is secure enough she could issue a polite "gently caress israel" statement and put that to rest. Rashida got extremely lucky in her primary and can already expect a challenge next time around from the AA community. This would just deepen her trouble.
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Ardennes posted:Also, 40 bucks seems like a lot for a plush bear but I guess I am not the right market. A conservative furry?
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Nonsense posted:Florida Republicans committed mass voter fraud by email Source for this? I haven’t seen it anywhere.
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CuddleCryptid posted:Same reason why we assume Male despite women making up almost half of the group Also you get it segmented down further. It's been interesting to watch twitch the last few years and watch the chud groups kind of shrink down from all over the place to specific types of games. As always: People who play video games: not inherently bad People who identify as Gamers: inherently bad
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Demon Of The Fall posted:Source for this? I haven’t seen it anywhere. https://twitter.com/PeterSchorschFL/status/1062011437256790024
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Tibalt posted:Citizens United isn't a particularly engrained bit of jurisprudence and "all money is speech" is the sort of area where even your most right wing justice is going to be cautious of unintended consequences. Call it the Anti-Soros Act and watch it pass.
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CuddleCryptid posted:Same reason why we assume Male despite women making up almost half of the group yeah it's really, really hosed up that women in games have to either pretend to be male or not use voice chat or whatever because the environment is so toxic. I'd be interested in reading about all the politics of gaming but I think that's a cursed topic and a thread on it would instantly turn to poo poo. i'm gonna laugh my rear end off if all this rick scott voter suppression poo poo backfires.
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CuddleCryptid posted:There's a big gap between people who play video games and self-proclaimed, capital G "Gamers". The latter have videogames as their entire identity. They spend all day online, play games for their sole hobby, and tend to only associate with people who also play games. These are the guys that end up pulling Gamergate or whatever and eventually transform into Chuds. Yup, anywhere white nerds congregate (in a place or in an online space) you'll see Nazi assholes recruiting and that's not even a new thing. Just with video games, EVERYONE, even if they're not a gamer per se probably plays some games on their phone and has heard of Fortnite/Call of Duty/etc. so video games are extremely visible, it's an extremely online thing to be into, and on top of that video games lend themselves well to a structure where you play as the one lone dude that has to violently destroy a horde of sub-human bad guys. It basically ticks every box to create a young white dude that can fall in with that crowd. But even in the real world, like the Barcade in Williamsburg in Brooklyn has been a Nazi hangout for over a year now as an example. I co-ran a general nerd poo poo sort of club in college like twenty years go and we'd like once a year or so get someone wanting to collaborate on an even or something about, like, vague UFO conspiracies or ghosts or whatever and but if you spoke to the person for more than like five minutes they'd very clearly be trying to recruit people. I'm kind of glad my wife is as into video games as I am but that neither of us likes playing games online. Because then we could potentially become hopeless video game addicts and/or mega-sheltered shut-ins instead of it being a thing we do socially in person with friends at someone's place or at an arcade or whatever. I always found that interesting because holy loving poo poo do we love video games and play them often. My wife would even send Square fanart with letters begging them to release like Front Mission 1 in the US like 25 years ago and I wrote about video games online pretty regularly from like 2003 to maybe a year ago. We literally met over a game of King of Fighters in Chinatown Fair. But if you go by how most people define "gamer" we don't qualify because it is a 100% consumerist-defined "hobby." Game marketing is so good that being a "gamer" is less "you play games a lot" or "you are passionate about ____ types of games" and more "you buy every AAA game ASAP." Fortunately years before we even met though we both learned that one should  Anyway to keep this on topic, we don't really hang out with "gamers" in the way it's defined now at all because holy crap are gamers the most irritating folks ever, but part of it also is that required love of spending money and love of huge corporations treating their employees like poo poo. Like you'll never see someone stand up for capital more than hardcore gamers. So you can see how all of that does also play into how much the hobby attracts folks ripe for being taught to be massively bigoted assholes, and I didn't even touch on the sexism rampant in both the industry and most gamer communities to get there.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Email votes? Had that EVER happened ANYWHERE? https://twitter.com/mitzi4bay/status/1062033695345905664
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Email votes? Has that EVER happened ANYWHERE? West Virginia tested voting online this past year from what I recall edit: actually debuted it for overseas voters quote:When Mac Warner was in the Army, he couldn't vote in two US elections. Stationed overseas, he wasn't able to receive or submit a ballot.
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So Florida Dems cost themselves a Senate seat because their ballot design was overly complex unreadable? https://twitter.com/ConnieSchultz/status/1062009289429209088 The best viable 2020 candidate. I'll work for him if he runs. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Nov 12, 2018 |
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mcmagic posted:So Florida Dems cost themselves a Senate seat because their ballot design was overly complex unreadable? I could be completely loving ignorant here, but how hard is it to design a simple ballot?
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/AmyEGardner/status/1062036927820587008 Thank you unnamed judge for just actually doing your job as a judge. I particularly like the opinion of "Tone down the loving rhetoric already". Like if the GOP is going to do this EVERY single loving time they lose an election now or feel they are in danger of losing a close one then holy loving poo poo. Kale fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Nov 12, 2018 |
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Your Taint posted:I could be completely loving ignorant here, but how hard is it to design a simple ballot? It’s hard to fit everyone’s names on the ballot when people suck at reading comprehension, are in a rush, etc. and will miss anything at the bottom or margins.
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Your Taint posted:I could be completely loving ignorant here, but how hard is it to design a simple ballot? Apparently harder than you'd think...
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1062025982142373892 100% for this. Is there a way to also enact nationwide early voting and no excuse ballets by mail?
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mcmagic posted:So Florida Dems cost themselves a Senate seat because their ballot design was overly complex unreadable? Having looked at the ballot, if the undervotes are the ballot issue it looks like a relatively easy design mistake to make, that nobody would have noticed if not for how this election turned out. However Nelson's camp thinks they have evidence it's a machine issue, not a ballot issue (specifically, that the excess undervotes stopped happening with the most recent ballots). So I'd wait until people actually check what happened first.
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The thing about voting reform is that the vast majority of Republican voters have no idea how much their party relies on Voter Suppression, disenfranchisement and intimidation to win elections and these reforms sound great because they make your life easier and have no perceived downside. Thats why ballot initiatives banning gerrymandering win even in gerrymandered red states by wide margins.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:100% for this. I don't see why not. It might even be in that bill, the article makes it sound like there's a whole lotta poo poo getting put in so they just may not have mentioned those.
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Flip Yr Wig posted:The video in that link isn't loading for me. Is the tweet accurately representing it? the video works. also that lady is desperately trying to get Rick Scott to stop pushing the fraud bs because they're going to discover chuds have been cheating.
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socialsecurity posted:This can't be right people just a few pages ago said Dems we're all just focused on Russia and had no plans to help people vote. Okay so there's this thing called stuff that's actually happening in the real living breathing world out there and then there's poo poo that people post to fill up threads and work into favorite talking points on the internet. I think one of them is called policy or something and I believe there's a term for this poo poo that people post but can't quite put my finger on it at the moment...... 
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mcmagic posted:The thing about voting reform is that the vast majority of Republican voters have no idea how much their party relies on Voter Suppression, disenfranchisement and intimidation to win elections and these reforms sound great because they make your life easier and have no perceived downside. Thats why ballot initiatives banning gerrymandering win even in gerrymandered red states by wide margins. someone, I think Greg Sargent, was tweeting this morning that some republicans do understand it and have basically justified it to themselves with that Mitt Romney rhetoric - basically, saying that democrats win elections by buying votes from minorities with government handouts, so the playing field is biased against republicans so it's only fair to suppress democratic votes but yeah, a lot of republican voters miss the more structural stuff which is why it's great to fix that by referendum
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Email votes? Has that EVER happened ANYWHERE?
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Your Taint posted:I could be completely loving ignorant here, but how hard is it to design a simple ballot? I think it's really easy to make a ballot that works 99% of the time, and the issue is that if the design has a systemic error on that 1% that pushes the vote 1% in one direction it basically wins the election. Like a tiny misunderstanding that a bunch of people misunderstand the same way compounds into being the deciding factor of a race pretty easily.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:100% for this. I don't think it would hold up in the courts as voting is overseen by the states. The individual states would have to decide, probably.
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Tim Whatley posted:Speaking of Russians Facebook is down, hopefully for the final time. Fox News has come out of it's radio silence to blast Zuck and Facebook for firing Palmer Luckey the nazi VR guy today.
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Flip Yr Wig posted:The video in that link isn't loading for me. Is the tweet accurately representing it? https://www.wjhg.com/content/news/Local-Supervisor-of-Elections-addresses-scrutiny-500179081.html It's not an untold number, it's 147. The supervisor Mark Anderson talks about it like it was specifically approved for the case, and counting every vote is going to include counting those. This is also not even new information, that article is from the 9th.
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mcmagic posted:The thing about voting reform is that the vast majority of Republican voters have no idea how much their party relies on Voter Suppression, disenfranchisement and intimidation to win elections and these reforms sound great because they make your life easier and have no perceived downside. Thats why ballot initiatives banning gerrymandering win even in gerrymandered red states by wide margins. GOP voters think only dems cheat so because they are unable to objectively gauge the battlefield they lose.
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