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Tibalt posted:I dunno, between the abuse of reconciliation and removing the filibuster on SCOTUS nominees, I think it's effectively dead anyway. He won't have that choice to make if we don't take the senate, you need a majority vote to enact that change.
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haveblue posted:He won't have that choice to make if we don't take the senate, you need a majority vote to enact that change.
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Tibalt posted:I dunno, between the abuse of reconciliation and removing the filibuster on SCOTUS nominees, I think it's effectively dead anyway. The next time Dems have unified government I don't believe they will be able to withstand the pressure to blow up the legislative filibuster after the Trump era.
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Your Taint posted:Regarding what? I accidentally thought this was the politoons thread, which is typically where I keep hearing about celebrity deaths.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Lol at these loving graphs. Who the hell puts time on a descending y-axis? The NYT is a gigantic waste they wanted to preserve left v right with their graph. still dumb as gently caress looking, especially since time advances downwards in it
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Failed Imagineer posted:Who the hell puts time on a descending y-axis? Scientists that track things changing with time, OP.
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:The biggest young republican I knew in high school figured out he was gay in college and is now one of the most awesome leftists I know. Shame them please, but also realize people are idiots when they're young and can learn. No. It is common sense to not be a Nazi. These kids should never have the ability to go to college, be employed or contribute to society. They're done.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Scientists that track things changing with time, OP. dependent variable? what's that? some kind of gay thing?
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VH4Ever posted:Yeah I'm not giving these assholes that much credit. As much as I went through a Libertarian Just World phase in high school, I'm not sure "Oh that was my Nazi phase, you know..." is all that common. Certainly was not in my case, I'm an OG Nazi hater. yeah, i agree. gently caress em, least these dumbshits are getting ruined now.
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CelestialScribe posted:No. It is common sense to not be a Nazi. These kids should never have the ability to go to college, be employed or contribute to society. They're done. It should be pointed out that there are people who are former white supremacists/Nazis who turned their life around, renounced their former beliefs, and actively work towards dismantling those ideologies and bringing people out of them. I think they are in unique positions to turn other people around as well as redeem themselves, because it's a huge gently caress-up to make. These kids should absolutely face consequences, and there should be no benefit of the doubt when dealing with them, but if they do come around they should be given a chance to do something good with themselves (that is unless it's a hollow apology/"I'll keep my Nazi views to myself").
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CelestialScribe posted:No. It is common sense to not be a Nazi. These kids should never have the ability to go to college, be employed or contribute to society. They're done. So, kids throwing a nazi solute when a photographer tells them to should be treated worse than felons, when felons already get treated like supreme poo poo. Got it.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Scientists that track things changing with time, OP. I'm a scientist who tracks things changing with time, and I don't do it, and would lol at anyone who did BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:dependent variable? what's that? some kind of gay thing? this is clearly not a case where time is the dependent variable
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:So, kids throwing a nazi solute when a photographer tells them to should be treated worse than felons, when felons already get treated like supreme poo poo. Got it. They should be treated as Nazis. They didn’t have to do it, they chose to enthusiastically participate. gently caress ‘em. Go find Brock Turner, I’m sure he would appreciate your crocodile tears.
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:kids throwing a nazi solute when a photographer tells them to should be treated worse than felons As a Christian I strongly support forgiveness, and as a dick I strongly support face-punching as a means of encouraging sincere repentance.
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Lightning Knight posted:They should be treated as Nazis. They didn’t have to do it, they chose to enthusiastically participate. gently caress ‘em. Brock Turner was older and committed a violent crime, but I'm sure he'd appreciate your hyperbole.
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those kids are old enough to know what they're doing and face the appropriate consequences, gently caress em doing it just because it's fun and seems like a joke is an extremely teenager thing but this is how these ideas get rooted in and a whole chud is born
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I'm pretty sure that a Junior High photo and honestly kid do really loving dumb things. Its why we don't treat them like adults because they're not adults. The correct thing is actually engage them and maybe be able to reach out to them so that they gain some sort of better understanding on the wrongness of their actions and hopefully not repeat it.
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Failed Imagineer posted:this is clearly not a case where time is the dependent variable 
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:Brock Turner was older and committed a violent crime, but I'm sure he'd appreciate your hyperbole. You’re really dumb and it’s really impressive. But please, by all means, continue making a fool of yourself by going to bat for an entire graduating class of white men -1 being overt Nazis, encouraged and abetted by adults in their lives, in a nation where a Nazi murdered 11 Jewish people less than a month ago.
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Hollismason posted:I'm pretty sure that a Junior High photo and honestly kid do really loving dumb things. Junior year in high school. They're all 16 or 17 there.
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Ah, gotcha. Sorry I just get a lil steamed up at the failing NYT now'n'again
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Lightning Knight posted:You’re really dumb and it’s really impressive. But please, by all means, continue making a fool of yourself by going to bat for an entire graduating class of white men -1 being overt Nazis, encouraged and abetted by adults in their lives, in a nation where a Nazi murdered 11 Jewish people less than a month ago. So what punishment would you want for these 13 to 14 year old children? What's the appropriate punishment?
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Guillotine all those Nazi chud fuckers imo
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Rent-A-Cop posted:This but unironically. There seems to be a misconception that I do not support face punching Nazis. That is very very false. I just do not support going out of your way to ruin lives of teenagers who give a nazi symbol. Shame them, tease them, but jesus gently caress its creepy when ya'll talk like this.
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Hollismason posted:So what punishment would you want for these 13 to 14 year old children? What's the appropriate punishment? They are juniors in high school, not middle schoolers. A nice public shaming will do more than whatever the gently caress you are suggesting.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Is Sinema actually an atheist? Yes but she rejects the label and tries not to talk about it. She was raised Mormon, attended BYU, and married a classmate from there, but I guess rejected it all, got divorced, and is now a bisexual atheist. But before you get your hopes too high she's also a Blue Dog.
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Hollismason posted:So what punishment would you want for these 13 to 14 year old children? What's the appropriate punishment? They're juniors in high school, not junior high students. It's kinda telling the photographer didn't take a similar picture of the girls in the class.
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:So, kids throwing a nazi solute when a photographer tells them to should be treated worse than felons, when felons already get treated like supreme poo poo. Got it. Unironically yes
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That's still what like 15 to 16 years old. Kids are loving stupid.
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Hollismason posted:So what punishment would you want for these 13 to 14 year old children? What's the appropriate punishment? They should all be named, shamed, and expelled.
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Hollismason posted:That's still what like 15 to 16 years old. Kids are loving stupid. Throwing Nazi salutes isn't like, a normal part of teenage stupidity.
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"The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" they said, shortly before shooting the good guy with a gun to death.
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Hollismason posted:That's still what like 15 to 16 years old. Kids are loving stupid. Juniors in high school are typically 16-17 years old. Throwing a sieg heil is not some "boys will be boys" poo poo, and I'm not sure why you are so comfortable brushing it off.
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I thought anti-breeder/anti-kid types were chud-adjecent.
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Hollismason posted:That's still what like 15 to 16 years old. Kids are loving stupid. I did some dumb poo poo in high school Being a nazi wasn’t one of them tho It’s common sense, even at that age
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Astro7x posted:"The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" they said, shortly before shooting the good guy with a gun to death. It makes it harder to murder people without consequences.
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