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SuperMechagodzilla posted:"Gray Jedism" is moronic because there is no "Light Jedism' and "Dark Jedism". What we see in the films is basically a conflict between Jewish Force Users and Nietzschean Force Users. For their sins, the Jedi Temple is destroyed, but because Luke did not learn the lesson of this, he is not allowed to rebuild it.
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RBA Starblade posted:Jivjov are there dark and light jedi? The Jedi, by the organizational definition, are Light only...but as evidenced by the Prequels....well....
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i always get a kick out of force choke being an evil thing because luke stone cold chokes out a pigman like 5 minutes into rotj and then is like I AM A JEDI KNIGHT right after
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Nov 12, 2018 23:40
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Making someone do something against their will with a wave of the hand is also a light side trick. In conclusion, the Force is a land of contrasts.
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Nov 12, 2018 23:43
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Other than the crazy puppets and set design the best bit of the Jabba's palace rescue is Luke trying to live out his "wait until they see how badass I am at the high school reunion" fantasy. Han sees right through it while blind. Harrison's disgust at being there plays
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Nov 12, 2018 23:45
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Luke was deliberately setting Leia up to get caught so he could show off, right?
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Nov 12, 2018 23:51
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Was Jedi Master Baytes a Grey Jedi?
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AndyElusive posted:Was Jedi Master Baytes a Grey Jedi? When he got older, yeah. 
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Captain Cappy posted:Making someone do something against their will with a wave of the hand is also a light side trick. In conclusion, the Force is a land of contrasts. *waves hand* There are no contradictions in Jedi dogma. AndyElusive posted:Was Jedi Master Baytes a Grey Jedi? The greytest, amirite?
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jivjov posted:Modern canon has framed it a little better, I feel. Someone like Ashoka, who is no longer part of the Jedi order but still tries to do good. She doesn't use dark side powers. If anything it feels like Jedi to Jedi not in Jedi order (Light side user) is more like the whole not every Dark Jedi is a Sith, but every Sith is a Dark Jedi type definition.
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One thing I did like from KOTOR 2 was that the conflict from the first game has become known as "the Jedi Civil War" in the interim, because as far as the average galactic citizen is concerned it makes no different whether their lightsaber is red or blue.
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Nov 13, 2018 13:25
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Show me a canonical source where Rey uses a Dark Side Power ie. Force Lightning, Force Crush, Force Dominate
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Calibanibal posted:Show me a canonical source where Rey uses a Dark Side Power ie. Force Lightning, Force Crush, Force Dominate There’s no such thing a dark side power. Rey is ‘dark’ because she’s using her power to enforce feudalism.
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Calibanibal posted:Show me a canonical source where Rey uses a Dark Side Power ie. Force Lightning, Force Crush, Force Dominate I can probably show you several non-canonical sources where she's using Force Dominate on FN. And probably quite a few with the reverse.
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Calibanibal posted:Show me a canonical source where Rey uses a Dark Side Power ie. Force Lightning, Force Crush, Force Dominate The force awakens. She forces Kylo to spill the beans using the force when he tries to invade her.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:There’s no such thing a dark side power. Honest question, do you think GL meant to portray Leia and the rebels as a conservative reactionary group that wants to reinstall feuidalism, or do you think he simply meant to invoke a fairy tale sensation of knights, wizards, princesses and rogues set in a sci fi setting and the feudalism is a accidental byproduct.
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Nov 13, 2018 15:38
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Rey uses Force Angrily Try To Cut Someone With A Laser Sword a lot.
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McCloud posted:Honest question, do you think GL meant to portray Leia and the rebels as a conservative reactionary group that wants to reinstall feuidalism, or do you think he simply meant to invoke a fairy tale sensation of knights, wizards, princesses and rogues set in a sci fi setting and the feudalism is a accidental byproduct. Why does what he meant matter?
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McCloud posted:Honest question, do you think GL meant to portray Leia and the rebels as a conservative reactionary group that wants to reinstall feuidalism, or do you think he simply meant to invoke a fairy tale sensation of knights, wizards, princesses and rogues set in a sci fi setting and the feudalism is a accidental byproduct. Yes.
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 sassassin posted:Why does what he meant matter? I'm asking to get an insight into SMG's programming, I don't really care what GL's intent was, as such.
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Nov 13, 2018 16:20
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"In this world, only the results matter." -Diavolo, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Vento Aureo
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McCloud posted:
He’s a loving human being on a computer. Please stop this.
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Nov 13, 2018 18:12
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He's more machine than man
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CelticPredator posted:He’s a loving human being on a computer. Please stop this. He's a real hero and a real human being
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Nov 13, 2018 18:32
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CelticPredator posted:He’s a loving human being on a computer. Please stop this. Why else do you think he's so interested in robot rights? Wake up America!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFENgb2zOn4
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CelticPredator posted:He’s a loving human being on a computer. Please stop this. lol look at this doink who doesn't know SMG is a chatbot. Next you're going to tell me 9/11 wasn't an inside job. Let's all point and laugh at him 
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Nov 13, 2018 19:05
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I just feel bad about how we treated his little sister, Tay.
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sassassin posted:Rey uses Force Angrily Try To Cut Someone With A Laser Sword a lot. 
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Honestly this is about the only thing they could to that would make me even sort of give a poo poo about The Mandalorian. Well played.
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I don’t think that’s right, R2D2 actually saves people.
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Oh no, this conversation again
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CelticPredator posted:I don’t think that’s right, R2D2 actually saves people. superman saves more people than finn and rose did
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*freddie mercury voice* Ooh les go!
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CelticPredator posted:I don’t think that’s right, R2D2 actually saves people. Nah, Superman saves Superman does also destroy the
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Brother Entropy posted:superman saves more people than finn and rose did lol remember when rose and finn rescued the enslaved camels but left the slave children to rot?
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Artoo: Purposefully helped cause the deaths of a millions of people who were legitimate military targets. Snyder Supes: Purposefully killed only one target in self defense/saving a family, but caused hundreds or even thousands of innocent deaths through unintentional collateral damage. Someone should make a Trolley Problem image of this.
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