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https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1062394700966039554 She got a result from the protest within 2 loving hours.
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Kimsemus posted:he's not talking about the media as a whole though just the EXECUTIVE PRESS POOL. lmao
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RaySmuckles posted:no its fine for us to say "i don't like it" but its another to get all huffy about "he can't do that!" because in all likelihood he can. praying for some sort of lawsuit to bail us out on this is stupid and should be challenged. This isn't about that. This is about the President of the United States booting a reporter out of the press room because he didn't like the question he was being asked. What's to stop him doing it again with April Ryan, for example? Fox News asked Barack Obama stupid and leaning questions all the time, and yet he and his press secretary would answer them.
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Nov 13, 2018 18:23
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nerdz posted:this dude is picking and choosing replies that he can argue his dumbass false equivalence with and the thread is falling for it Yeah! Everyone just nod and look at this cool picture instead: 
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1062394700966039554 it's almost like Pelosi wasn't planning on doing this anyway and just  the new girl
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CuddleCryptid posted:Poster with stupid racist avatar tries to both sides facism, news at 11 haha i just noticed the avatar. very cool and good combination with defending this action
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Nov 13, 2018 18:24
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RaySmuckles posted:no its fine for us to say "i don't like it" but its another to get all huffy about "he can't do that!" because in all likelihood he can. praying for some sort of lawsuit to bail us out on this is stupid and should be challenged. "This is stupid" isn't an argument. It's more like whining. quote:stupid poo poo should be challenged, especially in the Debate and Discussion forum Stupid poo poo like making up an Obama era banning of Fox News that literally didn't occur except in your head?
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Kimsemus posted:it's almost like Pelosi wasn't planning on doing this anyway and just The point is that Pelosi felt she had to be responsive to what AOC was doing.
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nerdz posted:this dude is picking and choosing replies that he can argue his dumbass false equivalence with and the thread is falling for it Well yeah I mean isn't this the point of the new merged thread, there is no other direction this could of gone.
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Nov 13, 2018 18:26
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1062394700966039554 Holy poo poo. This is really good news because it's the first evidence in a long while that the Party establishment is extremely sensitive to what the progressive wing wants. Good on AOC, what a bad rear end.
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Main Paineframe posted:The question is not whether "we" can distinguish it, but whether the official White House press officials can distinguish it. Like, it's easy to talk about how some outlets are news and some aren't, but if we want to start asserting a constitutional right for some people to have access to the press room without extending that right to everyone, there needs to be an actual fixed standard that can be fairly and consistently applied. Otherwise it's just up to the arbitrary judgement of whichever official is charged with administering the program. But that's how it is now. You can't let 300 million Americans into the briefing room. They wouldn't even fit, so of course there has to be some process to accredit news organizations CNN's argument is that Acosta isn't being excluded because he violated the existing processes but that he is being excluded to punish CNN for reporting facts Trump doesn't like.
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Xombie posted:Yo, this didn't happen. You made it up. It is a lie. uh it definitely happened. obama "floated the idea" of banning fox news. he didn't actually follow through with it because there was a lot of push back from other establishment news outlets. he did snub them by not appearing on their shows, and guess what, people got all pissed off about it, particularly other networks who claimed "we're all exactly the same, no difference between us" like other posters already posted about it upthread?
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DLC Inc posted:galaxy brain take from tHe rEsIsTance AOC should spend her time on more respectable pursuits, like calling donors to beg for money. quote:Norah O'Donnell: What has your party said about how members of Congress should raise money?
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RaySmuckles posted:uh it definitely happened. obama "floated the idea" of banning fox news. Post proof of this or gently caress off.
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i'd love to hear from Forums Poster RaySmuckles about what exactly Ted Olson and Ted Boutrous got wrong about the relevant law in that complaint, since you're apparently the expert
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eke out posted:Assuming that's the right reg, this explains the cause of action under the APA, which I didn't understand. its the reg cited in th cnn complaint, its a good complaint.
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Pelosi and Schumer absolutely need to feel afraid of the new blood in the House and I'm hoping the majority of new people elected create a contingent to actually loving Do Things
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CmdrRiker posted:Yeah! Everyone just nod and look at this cool picture instead: This kid owns
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:This isn't about that. This is about the President of the United States booting a reporter out of the press room because he didn't like the question he was being asked. What's to stop him doing it again with April Ryan, for example? What is to stop him, legally speaking? Press rights are a very complicated and often-vague arena of law. Obviously, merely claiming you're a journalist doesn't give you unrestricted access to literally anywhere you wish to go, after all, so there's all sorts of limits and standards that often aren't laid down all that cleanly.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:its the reg cited in th cnn complaint, its a good complaint. sorry I hedged my post with 'if it's the right reg' because for a second i thought that guy saying it was wrong might not be full of poo poo, my bad
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Nov 13, 2018 18:31
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Unzip and Attack posted:Post proof of this or gently caress off. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-obamas-feud-with-fox-news/ This is all I found. Other than not going on their shows (which, seriously, who the gently caress cares, none of Fox's "anchors" could hold Obama's jockstrap) and trying a single time to exclude them from a press pool (which they backed down on), this did not happen. He's lying. E: Ahahahahaha, wow...Obama had NOTHING on the poo poo previous Presidents tried to pull. FDR once tried to get a reporter "jokingly" presented with an Iron Cross because he didn't like how the reporter was covering the war.
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RaySmuckles posted:uh it definitely happened. obama "floated the idea" of banning fox news. Nope. Want to try again?
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1062391871480193024?s=19
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Nov 13, 2018 18:33
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Pelosi was already planning to reinstate the Select Committee on Climate Change, IIRC, so this doesn't represent a concrete change but did maybe direct more attention to it and put that committee's eventual feet to the fire. (It may also mean AOC gets a seat on that committee which would be quite good.)
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hey guys, you know what's like trump banning a reporter from the white house? Israel loving blowing up an entire goddamn news station. https://twitter.com/JamalsNews/stat...D237%23lastpost
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Nov 13, 2018 18:33
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Unzip and Attack posted:Post proof of this or gently caress off. here's a story about him boycotting fox news shows and the other news networks rushing in to save fox https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-obamas-feud-with-fox-news/ i'll try to see if i can find mention of the white house press pass
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Xombie posted:"This is stupid" isn't an argument. It's more like whining. They did try to exclude Fox from some things. Just look what a trivial Google search pulled up. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-obamas-feud-with-fox-news/ quote:And the White House has gone beyond words, reports CBS News senior political correspondent Jeff Greenfield. Last Sept. 20, the president went on every Sunday news show - except Chris Wallace's show on FOX. And on Thursday, the Treasury Department tried to exclude FOX News from pool coverage of interviews with a key official. It backed down after strong protests from the press.
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1062394700966039554 Nancy Pelosi plans to push for revival of climate change committee in new Congress - posted November 8th
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aware of dog posted:Nancy Pelosi plans to push for revival of climate change committee in new Congress - posted November 8th Ooh yeah thanks that's the source I was looking for.
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RaySmuckles posted:here's a story about him boycotting fox news shows and the other news networks rushing in to save fox Boycotting Fox shows is not even remotely the same as what you said. Jesus Christ. Oh, and by the way, I seem to recall a very well-publicized interview he did with Bill O'Reilly at one point, so apparently their policy didn't hold for long.
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RaySmuckles posted:here's a story about him boycotting fox news shows and the other news networks rushing in to save fox That's not the same thing at all as several of us gave pointed out. The president is not obligated to appear in every signle networks talk shows in any manner.
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Nov 13, 2018 18:35
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Thinking about doing a thing and doing a thing are exactly the same.
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Obama gave multiple interviews with Chris Wallace and Bill O'Reilly as well as going on Fox News Sunday, and that's just the stuff I personally remember. Not only did Obama "go on Fox News", he has no obligation to do so and equating that to "banning" Fox News is a lie.
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hi, here from the skull-measuring caucus; have you considered that banning the cnn reporter is good actually
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Mendrian posted:Thinking about doing a thing and doing a thing are exactly the same. I think about punching Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson in their stupid, smug, racist faces all the time. Therefore, I have committed assault; please call the police. vvv I actually spent a minute looking for AOC's photoshopped face into that below image. 
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Willa Rogers posted:AOC should spend her time on more respectable pursuits, like calling donors to beg for money. 
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Nov 13, 2018 18:37
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RaySmuckles posted:here's a story about him boycotting fox news shows and the other news networks rushing in to save fox Careful you don't trip over yourself running so far away with those goalposts. quote:i'll try to see if i can find mention of the white house press pass Maybe you should have checked to see if this wasn't complete bullshit before posting it like it was a fact and premising your entire equivalency argument on it?
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:hi, here from the skull-measuring caucus; have you considered that banning the cnn reporter is good actually not at all. I'm not a fan of what Jim Acosta has to say to POTUS but I defend his right to say it.
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Quorum posted:Ooh yeah thanks that's the source I was looking for. Lemme guess - Pelosi is going to use this as an excuse to shut AOC out of any future party activities and/or screw her over?
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