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univbee posted:You're going to be so jealous of my rocket horse. Finding a 1080p 32" TV in 2018 is a proper hunt. The manufacturers obviously know that only people who don't know any better (so they get the HD Ready crap) or people with space constraints (who will begrudgingly pay a premium - the model I got for my parents cost more than the 43" 4K alternative) want them at this point.
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Ruffian Price posted:Finding a 1080p 32" TV in 2018 is a proper hunt. The manufacturers obviously know that only people who don't know any better (so they get the HD Ready crap) or people with space constraints (who will begrudgingly pay a premium - the model I got for my parents cost more than the 43" 4K alternative) want them at this point. Yeah, sub-40" TVs are almost always below 1080p so it gets interesting if you're buying a TV that small explicitly to fit in somewhere like, for example, a cabinet that was designed for a CRT when anything over 30" was insane. Most of my parents' TVs were bought with space limitations in mind and I think only one TV (the one that didn't have space limitations) can do 1080p, but all it has is a cable box connected to it which tops out at 720p streams so welp.
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Over There posted:found it The internet can be wonderful sometimes. Thank you!
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So does this come with a digital version of 13? Because that never got a digital version. Ill rebuy it, the best Final Fantasy
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Nov 13, 2018 18:39
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Barudak posted:the best Final Fantasy 
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Barudak posted:So does this come with a digital version of 13? Because that never got a digital version. Yep, it's available right now.
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To be fair that NeoGAF poster wasn't wrong, Square-Enix has been in a downward spiral since FFXIII came out.
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Barudak posted:So does this come with a digital version of 13? Because that never got a digital version. You can buy a used 360 disc and entering it into the console will automatically start downloading the X1X enhanced version. You still need the disc as DRM, though.
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I said come in! posted:To be fair that NeoGAF poster wasn't wrong, Square-Enix has been in a downward spiral since FFXIII came out. It has nothing to do with 13 being released on a Microsoft console though. It has to do with 13 being released period.
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BisterdDave posted:It has nothing to do with 13 being released on a Microsoft console though. It has to do with 13 being released period. True. Although this reminds me of Konami actually making a strategic move by not officially releasing the 360 version of Metal Gear Revengeance in Japan, instead making the Western versions all-region and have Japanese subtitles as an option. According to those behind the decision, they specifically said releasing a game on the Xbox 360 formally in Japan would make them look weak.
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Ruffian Price posted:You can buy a used 360 disc and entering it into the console will automatically start downloading the X1X enhanced version. You still need the disc as DRM, though. Thats what i dont want. Death to physical
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univbee posted:True. Maybe that NeoGAF poster is an expert afterall. 
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I said come in! posted:To be fair that NeoGAF poster wasn't wrong, Square-Enix has been in a downward spiral since FFXIII came out. nah, they hit rock fuckin bottom with ff8, the actual worst game ever made. and then they never recovered from that.
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Alright, let's get this train a-rollin'. Having never played a FF game before 7, my order is 9>7>10>8. Everything else has been too action focused and just not for me.
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Nov 13, 2018 19:36
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BisterdDave posted:Alright, let's get this train a-rollin'. yeah combat in 15 is what made me quit mid game
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BisterdDave posted:Alright, let's get this train a-rollin'. This is me. They never struck me as something I should care about. I really don't play a ton of Japanese games, doubly true for RPGs.
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:nah, they hit rock fuckin bottom with ff8, the actual worst game ever made. and then they never recovered from that. Sounds right, that's around when they merged with Enix to avoid Spirits Within-induced bankruptcy.
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Imagine my surprise when buying lightning returns expecting the worst and instead ending up with a pretty good valkyrie profile game instead.
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Over There posted:I liked Lightning as a character Lightning's an awesome character, it was always the combat I couldn't jive with. I also prefer LOTR-style fantasy over future tech stuff too.
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:nah, they hit rock fuckin bottom with ff8, the actual worst game ever made. and then they never recovered from that. I remember playing FF8 right on the tail end of that age where you don't really have a concept of "bad" movies or games or music. It's all just stuff that's neat and some of them you like more than others. The "hey we were all in the same orphanage and the bad guy was our nanny!" moment in FF8 was pretty much the dam breaking on that. I remember an immediate feeling of "oh, ok...things like stories in major media can actually suck rear end, wow" and from that point on I started forming opinions on things in terms of whether they were bad or good. FF8 was that bad. It's actually really wild because I was a huge fan of FF7 and I was mostly very into everything 8 was doing up to that point. Loved the designs, the "school" plot going on at the start, etc. And then I hit that poo poo like a brick wall lmfao.
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Final Fantasy 8 is better than 9 full stop and if you think XIII-2 is better than 13 you like movies more than gameplay.
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Beastie posted:Same. That and updating the controller or a full reboot. Finally got it to work by forgetting the wireless network and doing the cold reboot. Guess it prevents it from starting up whatever's interfering with it.
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Barudak posted:Final Fantasy 8 is better than 9 gently caress thats an awful take
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Over There posted:yeah combat in 15 is what made me quit mid game I also wasnt a big fan but i stuck it out and the original version of the game got insanely bad at the end it looped around into being really funny for me. I heard they fixed it to make it less funny bad tho
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8 was so bad I never even finished 9 or any other FF game beyond it so there's that
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I wish FF Tactics on my 'bone was a thing.
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owls or something posted:I wish FF Tactics on my 'bone was a thing. My personal all time classic Final Fantasy story: When I first got a PS1 I was probably around age 14, and my younger brother was 8. The very first (non demo-disc) game I got for some reason was Final Fantasy Tactics and I had to play it raw with nothing but the instruction book and in-game menu stuff (which I didn't really want to study anyway) to guide me. I spent at least a year trying to figure out how to get past the first difficulty spike (Argus fight? idk). My brother had an awesome habit of trying to play it too even though he knew even less than I did and always managing to save over my save slot, making me start over many many times. Anyways I remember after years of trying I finally got to some point past the "whoa all the catholic priests are actually demons!" fight and once again he saved over that game. I got so mad I never played it on PS1 again, was extremely mad at him for about as long as you really can be mad at a brother that you live with. I remember demanding my parents punish him for it in a very serious way lmfao. 10 years later I bought the game on PSP and had the internet teach me about grinding and proper job-system management and I ended up beating it. I called him immediately after and told him it only took a whole decade but I finally beat FFT without his dumb loving rear end saving over my game. Also when I did beat it I didn't really realize it when I had passed the point of no return for the endgame and that you can't go back and freely grind/recruit around the open map after a certain point and I had already filled my save slots with saves past that point. so in the end: I had basically "saved over" my own game.
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owls or something posted:I wish FF Tactics on my 'bone was a thing. Id prefer they dont port the worst FF game to any more devices if instead I could get good ones.
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Barudak posted:Id prefer they dont port the worst FF game to any more devices if instead I could get good ones. 
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Intel&Sebastian posted:8 was so bad I never even finished 9 or any other FF game beyond it so there's that 8 put me off the entire jrpg genre for over a decade. it is atrocious. Intel&Sebastian posted:I remember playing FF8 right on the tail end of that age where you don't really have a concept of "bad" movies or games or music. It's all just stuff that's neat and some of them you like more than others. that isn't even the worst part of that terrible, terrible game. the worst part is when squall and rinoa are in space, floating in space suits, running out of oxygen, when out of nowhere a ship that's been lost in orbit for 50 years just happens to float right over to where they are and just happens to still be full of oxygen, thus saving them. i stopped playing the game at that point because it was so aggressively fuckin stupid. i eventually finished the game and it continues being aggressively stupid after that point, too. gently caress ff8. it says a lot that square is bringing a bunch of other final fantasy games to xbox one and ff8 isn't one of them. even they fuckin know it's poo poo. DEEP STATE PLOT fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Nov 13, 2018 |
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Barudak posted:Final Fantasy 8 is better than 9 full stop and if you think XIII-2 is better than 13 you like movies more than gameplay. Barudak posted:So does this come with a digital version of 13? Because that never got a digital version. 
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Have you noticed that 15 is pretty much the inverse of 13, map-wise? Giant open area with sidequests and stuff to gently caress around with followed by a 20-hour corridor, instead of a 20-hour corridor followed by a giant open area with sidequests and stuff to gently caress around with.
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Ruffian Price posted:Have you noticed that 15 is pretty much the inverse of 13, map-wise? Giant open area with sidequests and stuff to gently caress around with followed by a 20-hour corridor, instead of a 20-hour corridor followed by a giant open area with sidequests and stuff to gently caress around with. they did xiii that way on purpose instead of because they had to after loving up for a decade at making a game and needing to ship asap
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Real hurthling! posted:they did xiii that way on purpose instead of because they had to after loving up for a decade at making a game and needing to ship asap What’s it like to have a stroke?
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Hard to type and laugh at ffxiii's design mea culpa
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Final fantasy games are all bad.
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Ruffian Price posted:Have you noticed that 15 is pretty much the inverse of 13, map-wise? Giant open area with sidequests and stuff to gently caress around with followed by a 20-hour corridor, instead of a 20-hour corridor followed by a giant open area with sidequests and stuff to gently caress around with. 13 doesnt really open up, Grand Pulse is side and post-game content and you can hustle through it back into linear dungeons immediately if you choose. Hell, the only non-combat sidequest in the game isnt even in there.
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BisterdDave posted:Alright, let's get this train a-rollin'. 10 had the best turn based combat, no waiting. I remember wanting an explicit list of what elements/debuffs the enemies are weak/strong/immune against. Iirc "scan" or whatever just showed the attributes one after the other and you had to try to remember which were not mentioned. I also liked 12's combat a lot, but then again I'm a programmer so setting up conditions and actions is something I actually enjoy 
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Wheany posted:I also liked 12's combat a lot, but then again I'm a programmer so setting up conditions and actions is something I actually enjoy I think 12 is underrated as hell. I really liked that one.
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