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Lemming posted:I guess I just assume that since that ballot design seems pretty standardized that it would've been found out earlier and at the very least the important races wouldn't be put in that spot. This is definitely just a gut feeling and not really based on anything. It would easily have flown under the radar if it were a less important race or the race was not so close. I'm sure there were tons of cases of lost votes from butterfly ballots before 2000 that nobody noticed.
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luxury handset posted:there's a solid argument that the ISS is a waste of resources that could be spent elsewhere on better science I guess, but research on human habitation is going to have to be done one way or another. There's no argument that long-term space habitation is going to happen, it will. Assuming we don't snuff ourselves out first likely! The NASA budget is so small and sad, it would be incredibly easy to double or triple by just slicing a few percentage points off of idiotic mil contracts here and there.
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How are u posted:I guess, but research on human habitation is going to have to be done one way or another. There's no argument that long-term space habitation is going to happen, it will. Assuming we don't snuff ourselves out first likely! long term space habitation is always 20 years away though, so it's not a very good use of funding right now. when the ISS program was set up in the late 90's it was with the idea that we'd be sending moon colonization missions by 2020 or so we've learned a lot from constructing and operating the thing but the continued operation of it to do additional, marginal studies on the impact of space on human physiology (turns out it sucks) is likely not the best use of resources right now How are u posted:The NASA budget is so small and sad, it would be incredibly easy to double or triple by just slicing a few percentage points off of idiotic mil contracts here and there. completely agreed
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luxury handset posted:long term space habitation is always 20 years away though, so it's not a very good use of funding right now. when the ISS program was set up in the late 90's it was with the idea that we'd be sending moon colonization missions by 2020 or so Plus, space exploration and those "wasteful" probes/satellites are helping us understand how our universe actually works. Take a look at this bad boy being sent up to supplement images from Hubble. I went to a symposium on what this thing is designed to do and it is loving wild. It will expand the spectrums we can capture and better map our universe and understand how stars are created and formed. poo poo is dope as gently caress. But please Kerning, tell me how studying the underpinnings of our universe and physics is a wasted endeavor? Advances in science are often a result of breakthroughs in other disciplines. So the idea of Space Science = Bad is a really dumb take.
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There's a lot of research taking place on the ISS that could not take place in any other currently existing facilities. Zero-g research is absolutely a thing and right now that's the only game in town making it essentially priceless. If you want to talk numbers about setting up alternate facilities for that research that conversation can take place, but until then what exists now is the entirety of possible zero-g research facilities.
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Hey, remember all the fanfic about how Melania was actually cool and good and how everyone felt sorry for her?
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dwarf74 posted:Hey, remember all the fanfic about how Melania was actually cool and good and how everyone felt sorry for her? I really don’t care, do u? I’m happy she’s been outed as the horrible person that she is and hopefully everyone stops feeling sorry for her.
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dwarf74 posted:Hey, remember all the fanfic about how Melania was actually cool and good and how everyone felt sorry for her? 1) I don't think anyone ever said that; the closest I heard was people speculating that she's a victim of an abusive marriage. That's not exclusive with being a racist or a bad person. 2) Ironically, getting rid of John Kelly would actually be cool and good though.
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Lemming posted:I guess I just assume that since that ballot design seems pretty standardized that it would've been found out earlier and at the very least the important races wouldn't be put in that spot. This is definitely just a gut feeling and not really based on anything. THE problem is that every county has to print their own individual ballots — or more often multiple versions for each county— for each election cycle, so there really is no such thing as a standardized ballot.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:THE problem is that every county has to print their own individual ballots — or more often multiple versions for each county— for each election cycle, so there really is no such thing as a standardized ballot. The State of Georgia did have a single team of full time ballot designers until recently and that's something makes sense and simplifies things.
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bird food bathtub posted:There's a lot of research taking place on the ISS that could not take place in any other currently existing facilities. Zero-g research is absolutely a thing and right now that's the only game in town making it essentially priceless. If you want to talk numbers about setting up alternate facilities for that research that conversation can take place, but until then what exists now is the entirety of possible zero-g research facilities. the alternative is just to send up automated laboratories. there's very little need for actual human involvement in space research, the two have been entwined as a political measure to keep the dream of humans in space alive while it saps resources from robot driven research think about how silly it would be to send a human or two along on some comet capture mission just to oversee the process. the only difference between that and sending humans to low earth orbit for months at a time to flip switches to start canned experiments is the distance involved right now the military has a fully automated orbiter that is doing god knows what on 1.5 year missions https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/05/why-so-secretive/525969/ i'm going to shut up now because this isn't a space thread and i've made my point on the differentiation between human beings in orbit and the ability to do research in space
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dwarf74 posted:Hey, remember all the fanfic about how Melania was actually cool and good and how everyone felt sorry for her? maybe clashes is slang for affair and Donnie just found out.
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An update from California fires: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/13/us/california-fires-updates.html The two primary fires at the moment are the Camp Fire, in Northern California, and the Woolsey Fire, in Southern California. Camp Fire: 120,000 acres, 30% containment, 42 civilian deaths and 3 injuries. Approximately 200 people are still unaccounted for. A little over 5100 firefighters are working the fire at the moment. Based on looking at fire detection maps, https://fsapps.nwcg.gov/afm/activefiremaps.php?sensor=goes&extent=conus , the Camp Fire appears to be spreading primarily north/north east and south/south east, away from the local population centers and heading into the national forest. So far, 6522 homes and 260 business have been destroyed, and 15,500 structures are still considered threatened. This is now the deadliest wildfire in California history. Woolsey Fire: 96,300 acres, 35% containment, 2 civilian deaths and 1 injury. A little under 3600 firefighters are working the fire at the moment. Fire detection maps for this one looks like there are spots all around the perimeter of the fire area that could still be burning. 435 structures have been destroyed, and 57,000 are threatened.
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https://twitter.com/MSyallpolitics/status/1062032791427313665 She put out a statement yesterday.....
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Please resign in protest Mr. Bolton.
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 Did they not consider a scenario where there is a lawsuit and their infowars doctored video would have to stand up to the scrutiny of a court or something? This is something even the likes of Ben Shapiro couldnt help but comment on, when theres several other avenues the white house could pursue towards banning a reporter why do they have to just blatantly lie? Is it really that important to them to pursue some sort of "own and annoy the libs" manchild angle like some are suggesting? If so theyre going to continue to give a lot of ground and lose a lot of these battles in the future.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Please resign in protest Mr. Bolton. There is no loving way he will do that.
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Kale posted:
They take the action first then rationalize it afterward. Eventually the action has to be justified by the legal team, who tell them "no, we can't say x, say y instead." Trump doesn't care he just does. Then everyone else has to clean up after him.
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That's the last thing the White House wants: reporters nosing around, asking too many questions. They need to make them... "disappear", if you get my meaning.
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Today is shaping up to be extremely interesting.
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"She was not escorted, she was dragged out kicking and screaming. They threw her desk out after her."
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Now they just need to release a photoshopped picture of her "sitting" at her desk and everything will be amazing.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:They take the action first then rationalize it afterward. Eventually the action has to be justified by the legal team, who tell them "no, we can't say x, say y instead." It tracks with another assessment I've heard of Trump (I forget from who who but IMO he nailed it) that he just says, does or orders people to do whatever will get him through a given moment. It covers the vast majority of angles where he appeals to say one thing only to do a complete 180 and reversal of course. In this case it would be something like nodding to infowars riles up his base and pisses off CNN but now that theres a lawsuit and he has to be an adult possibly to not immediately lose the case and perjure the whole adminstration the he karate chopped an intern line is no longer convenient. His lies seem to catch up to him faster and faster lately at least Probably the most obvious example on record of him just trying to get through a moment was firing comey only to get Mueller on his rear end instead
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:They take the action first then rationalize it afterward. Eventually the action has to be justified by the legal team, who tell them "no, we can't say x, say y instead." This is literally how they started his term almost 2 years ago. Banning immigrants cuz they're brown, saying it's "cuz terrorism" after the fact, and getting laughed out of court because that's not how this works. They have learned nothing.
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enraged_camel posted:Now they just need to release a photoshopped picture of her "sitting" at her desk and everything will be amazing. Here it is: 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:They take the action first then rationalize it afterward. Eventually the action has to be justified by the legal team, who tell them "no, we can't say x, say y instead." One of the more persistently relevant comments on the Trump admin from former republican operatives was, 'the entire white house is (optimistically) B-team at best, you just can't expect anything more from people who have no idea what they're doing.'
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Kale posted:It tracks with another assessment I've heard of Trump (I forget from who who but IMO he nailed it) that he just says, does or orders people to do whatever will get him through a given moment. It covers the vast majority of angles where he appeals to say one thing only to do a complete 180 and reversal of course. In this case it would be something like nodding to infowars riles up his base and pisses off CNN but now that theres a lawsuit and he has to be an adult possibly to not immediately lose the case and perjure the whole adminstration the he karate chopped an intern line is no longer convenient. His lies seem to catch up to him faster and faster lately at least This was that article from a few pages ago that kept using the word "fulsome" I think. Everyone's quoting it subconsciously
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Push El Burrito posted:Any new info on the supposed indictments coming in? So far a crazy man with a web cam is the only source of info we have.
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Made that face from the Chris Pratt gif.
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I wonder if lying to questions Mueller already knows the answer to is obstruction of justice? JasonV fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Nov 13, 2018 |
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Mahoning posted:https://twitter.com/MSyallpolitics/status/1062032791427313665 Can we get a link to donate to Espy? And do we have anyone who’s doing ground work in MS?
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Um, since when does the First Lady get to randomly fire people in the White House staff...? The only reason I can think of for this happening is stupid reality TV show poo poo that I don't even want to say out loud.
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mistaya posted:Um, since when does the First Lady get to randomly fire people in the White House staff...? The only reason I can think of for this happening is stupid reality TV show poo poo that I don't even want to say out loud. She didn't fire just a random staffer. She fired a national security advisor's aide.
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