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I'm the guy who voted for a Republican who thinks it's better for the country that the house is controlled by Democrats
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Lemming posted:I'm the guy who voted for a Republican who thinks it's better for the country that the house is controlled by Democrats Guessing it's probably along the lines of sour grape style "well maybe it'll do them some good to be out of power because then they'll realize they need to align more closely to my exact vision..."
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Nov 14, 2018 19:45
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Cythereal posted:That and Fox News is fundamentally a business at heart. Actually, Fox News has no heart.
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Nov 14, 2018 19:47
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rscott posted:Lmao there's a significantly greater than zero number of Americans who think Democrats controlling the House is a good thing, and approve of Trump. We are so loving dumb as a country, my God
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Nov 14, 2018 19:48
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xrunner posted:Guessing it's probably along the lines of sour grape style "well maybe it'll do them some good to be out of power because then they'll realize they need to align more closely to my exact vision..." It's the people who were infesting USPOL a few days ago putting their money where their mouth is. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 14, 2018 19:48
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I presume that at least some of that is: https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1061049723107315713 https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1061046106103209985 https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1061045857011859456 https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1060910345290768384 https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1060221311866322944 We just got rid of the losers so we can MAGA in 2020! Those house seats were sour anyway! The Democrats fell right into our trap, now we have them right where we want them: in the majority!
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Nov 14, 2018 19:50
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Lemming posted:I'm the guy who voted for a Republican who thinks it's better for the country that the house is controlled by Democrats Most of those people are actually just non-voters I'd guess.
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Nov 14, 2018 19:53
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somehow it always ends up being roughly 1/3 of the country that is at the perfect venn diagram center of spiteful, crazy, and stupid
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Nov 14, 2018 19:59
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dwarf74 posted:Isn't there a thing where an absurdly lopsided contract can be annulled due to its absurd lopsidedness? A contract can be called "unconscionable" be the contract usually has to be very absurd and unreasonable and have some sort of obvious or systemic power imbalance between the parties (broadly speaking, there are state specific requirements and other actually factors). It is difficult to win an argument that a contract is unconscionable in general, and probably impossible when both sides are sophisticated parties (mega corporation and a state) and both sides were assuredly representing by numerous attorneys
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Nov 14, 2018 20:02
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https://twitter.com/eorden/status/1062783900462788611 I feel like this is like the fourth time we've gotten some version of this story in the past month?
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Nov 14, 2018 20:08
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JazzFlight posted:I think there are a bunch of low-info people out there who just think balance back and forth is the perfect path for America. Like, they just think each election should check the previous one. There are also people that think a split government means that they'll pass things that everyone approves of. I'm not sure if that was ever true, but it sure isn't right now.
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Nov 14, 2018 20:08
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eke out posted:https://twitter.com/eorden/status/1062783900462788611 For the love of God, slap the cuffs on this rear end in a top hat already.
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Nov 14, 2018 20:08
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:For the love of God, slap the cuffs on this rear end in a top hat already. He's not gonna indict anyone until his case is airtight. Remember, the goal is to make it so hopeless for the criminals that they flip. If they don't flip, the case goes to trial, where there is a chance that they get acquitted. Which would be devastating.
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Nov 14, 2018 20:13
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Bizzarely enough, he's not even wrong about this (that it potentially benefits Trump, I mean - he's wrong about the rest). It gives Trump an excuse for not getting any of his legislative agenda through, which will probably help him a little in 2020.
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Nov 14, 2018 20:18
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xrunner posted:Bizzarely enough, he's not even wrong about this (that it potentially benefits Trump, I mean - he's wrong about the rest). It gives Trump an excuse for not getting any of his legislative agenda through, which will probably help him a little in 2020. No, he’s really wrong.
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Nov 14, 2018 20:20
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gently caress Bill Mitchell; he doesn't get to play the "I was the puppetmaster all along; I meant to get my rear end kicked! Are you owned yet, libs?!" game. Assuming that Democrats do what they are promising--between the investigations and the (albeit ill-fated) progressive legislation--Democrats will keep the House in 2020 unless Hillary is the loving candidate again. I'm so tired of the right (and to some extent the left) pretending that every piece of news will somehow benefit Donald Trump. He isn't invincible, politically or otherwise. We just proved that last week, didn't we? I get that 2016 gave us all horrendous PTSD, but we just got through a pretty good 2018 midterm cycle. Maybe it's time to come out from behind the bushes. Fritz Coldcockin fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Nov 14, 2018 |
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Nov 14, 2018 20:22
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Nov 14, 2018 20:32
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Nov 14, 2018 20:32
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Saying the Democrats are "renting" the House over and over to cover his failure of a prediction is so laughable. Who could even believe that nonsense. 
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Nov 14, 2018 20:33
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:No, he’s really wrong. Fritz Coldcockin posted:gently caress Bill Mitchell; he doesn't get to play the "I was the puppetmaster all along; I meant to get my rear end kicked! Are you owned yet, libs?!" game. Assuming that Democrats do what they are promising--between the investigations and the (albeit ill-fated) progressive legislation--Democrats will keep the House in 2020 unless Hillary is the loving candidate again. I mean, I get the sentiment, and he's being a petulant little brat and just playing puppet-master. That said, losing the house helps him explain "Where is the wall?" and "Where is the repeal and replace" which, while not huge, are still a useful talking point under the assumption they never would have materialized even had they held the house. I'm not giving Michell credit. I'm just wryly pointing out that I don't think he's wrong about that particular point. Now, if Democrats somehow give him a wall or a repeal/replace, I will gladly eat crow.
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Nov 14, 2018 20:36
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"Speculating." Which means they don't know anything.
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Nov 14, 2018 20:36
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VitalSigns posted:I presume that at least some of that is: Unless they think bigotry and gently caress the Dems/Libs is that much of a winning hand (which this election cycle hardly convinced me of) I'm not seeing how this argument tracks in particular. Maybe it's because there's been little elaboration but from what I can see the Republicans literally have no loving policy or goals right now to compare themselves to the Democrats on, just bullshit and scare tactics that primarily work on their established base. Meanwhile the Democratic party is coming into congress with stated agenda's that aren't blatantly self serving on their face that might actually do the public some good like attempts to reinvigorate the Voting Rights Act and Gun Control. What does the GOP run on assuming the Democratic party doesn't inexplicably rat gently caress the country which I don't see happening at all? Trying to take away people's health care again? Building bigger border walls? More tax cuts that are transparently for the top 1%? The caravan story is bullshit and they already gave that one up so like....I mean we'll check back in 2 years but Trump is still decisively unpopular so it's all going to come down to how Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Ohio and probably Florida chose to vote in 2020 more than anything to do with party record I think. Kale fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Nov 14, 2018 |
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Nov 14, 2018 20:38
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Deteriorata posted:"Speculating." Which means they don't know anything. That's news in itself though. If she doesn't have it locked down, that's news.
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Nov 14, 2018 20:38
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mistaya posted:Saying the Democrats are "renting" the House over and over to cover his failure of a prediction is so laughable. Who could even believe that nonsense. The responses on his earlier tweets (before all the chuds got their talking points that the Democrats stole the House through voter fraud) are hilarious, because it's all MAGA people going "wtf you said we'd win, you can't tell me we planned to lose now"
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Nov 14, 2018 20:39
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:That's news in itself though. If she doesn't have it locked down, that's news. Also Matt Fuller's probably the pre-eminent house reporter on twitter when it comes to intra-party squabbling over votes. He's definitely the person to follow/take seriously at times like these.
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Nov 14, 2018 20:41
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VitalSigns posted:I presume that at least some of that is: "You didn't win, I lost! I WANTED this to happen! I'm not owned! I'm not owned!" Way to admit that your party sucks at governing and only thrives when it's in the minority, though.
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xrunner posted:Bizzarely enough, he's not even wrong about this (that it potentially benefits Trump, I mean - he's wrong about the rest). It gives Trump an excuse for not getting any of his legislative agenda through, which will probably help him a little in 2020. Yeah, sure, good point. Now we just have to get Republicans to realize that, therefore, the most helpful thing for him in 2020 would be to pass the opposite of his agenda. Plus, Mueller's pretty popular, with bipartisan appeal. Trump could ride those coattails by helping out with his investigation. I think you're really onto something here.
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xrunner posted:Bizzarely enough, he's not even wrong about this (that it potentially benefits Trump, I mean - he's wrong about the rest). It gives Trump an excuse for not getting any of his legislative agenda through, which will probably help him a little in 2020. This is great news! For TRUMP!!!!@@
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Kale posted:Unless they think bigotry and gently caress the Dems/Libs is that much of a winning hand (which this election cycle hardly convinced me of) I'm not seeing how this argument tracks in particular. Maybe it's because there's been little elaboration but from what I can see the Republicans literally have no loving policy or goals right now to compare themselves to the GOP on, just bullshit and scare tactics that primarily work on their established base. What do they run on assuming the Democratic party doesn't inexplicably rat gently caress the country which I don't see happening at all? The caravan story is bullshit and they already gave that one up so like....I mean we'll check back in 2 years but Trump is still decisively unpopular so it's all going to come down to how Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Ohio and probably Florida chose to vote in 2020 more than anything to do with party record I think. Yes Bill Mitchell is a moron and his arguments make no sense obviously, he was predicting a 100% chance of Republican gains in the House the day of the election, now he's just polishing a turd. I brought him up because people were saying "wait what's with the people who voted Republican and think it's good Democrats took the House" and my suspicion is that we're likely seeing sour grapes: true believers who have convinced themselves that Dems winning the House is good for Trump because everything that happens is good for Trump. I guess there might also be some NeverTrump Republicans in there who voted for their NeverTrump congressman while still being glad that Democrats won overall.
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Nov 14, 2018 20:44
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:"You didn't win, I lost! I WANTED this to happen! I'm not owned! I'm not owned!" It can't be stated enough that the GOP had total power in Washington for 2 straight years and did absolutely jack loving poo poo with it other than enable Donald Trump's every stupid whim and nomination, try to take away poor and disadvantaged people's health care coverage and pass a tax cut bill that somehow managed to be less popular than the Bush I Tax hikes of 1990. Utterly utterly loving useless political party.
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Ironically, I actually do believe that the Democrats taking the House could be good for Trump. If he were to go to Pelosi for a massive $3T infrastructure bill with enough goodies to peel off rural Republican senators, his approval ratings would go through the roof. Imagine if he went to her to fix Obamacare or pass Medicare For All. Or a minimum wage increase like we saw pass in Arkansas and Missouri. None of that will happen because he's nothing but a grifter and a con man, but jesus if he actually passed popular progressive policy while saying the racist poo poo the white voter craves he'd probably lock the Democrats out of power for 100 years.
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Nov 14, 2018 20:49
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VitalSigns posted:Yes Bill Mitchell is a moron and his arguments make no sense obviously, he was predicting a 100% chance of Republican gains in the House the day of the election, now he's just polishing a turd. Proving Bill Mitchell wrong is an extra feather in this election cycle's cap, mostly because he was so smug after 2016.
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Nov 14, 2018 20:54
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VitalSigns posted:Ironically, I actually do believe that the Democrats taking the House could be good for Trump. If he were to go to Pelosi for a massive $3T infrastructure bill with enough goodies to peel off rural Republican senators, his approval ratings would go through the roof. Imagine if he went to her to fix Obamacare or pass Medicare For All. Or a minimum wage increase like we saw pass in Arkansas and Missouri. True true if Trump were a totally different person than Trump then something that's obviously bad for Trump would be great for Bizarro Trump.
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Nov 14, 2018 21:02
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VitalSigns posted:Ironically, I actually do believe that the Democrats taking the House could be good for Trump. If he were to go to Pelosi for a massive $3T infrastructure bill with enough goodies to peel off rural Republican senators, his approval ratings would go through the roof. Imagine if he went to her to fix Obamacare or pass Medicare For All. Or a minimum wage increase like we saw pass in Arkansas and Missouri. If he were left alone with the Dems for five minutes and they could keep him from his advisors they could talk him into all kinds of progressive support for gun control, infrastructure, etc. He's still a New Yorker and he likes to build poo poo. Unfortunately his advisors will shriek 'no the base will hate that you can't' and he'll turn on a dime. You cannot take his word for anything. Maybe if they brought back earmarks but even then it'd be over his veto.
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Bill Mitchell is a chud-version Pollyanna, forever convinced that getting owned is actually a good thing, just as good as not getting owned, and probably believes that Trump is some master-schemer playing 134 dimension chess. You can never prove Billy boy wrong because every outcome is exactly what he wanted it to be.
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Nov 14, 2018 21:21
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Nov 14, 2018 21:35
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