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evilweasel posted:it's also that 95% of people have no idea who he is, but if he's officially in republican leadership that will be a good way to explain to people who he is This exactly, if he's in the spotlight more more stuff will come out, and he isn't Trump where he can ignore it, having someone that knew about sexual assault and misconduct and knowingly ingored it as the majority or speaker would be horrible for your image and he would have people prepped to stab him in the back endlessly with new statements that discredit him. Or as explained he would be perfect as the gop speaker of the house because it's already like that 
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Remind me again why Gillibrand isn't Senate leader? 
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eke out posted:i feel like you're actively not reading those of us saying it's a pretty good bill for sentencing reform Tl;dr it's not really a Trump bill, it's a real rarity - a good bill that even Republicans support.
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truly a who's who of "who?"
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thats quite a few blue dogs. ryan is gunning for the thrown again, i guess.
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There are reportedly another 9 Democrats who wont vote for Pelosi, but are too scared to sign a letter. Pelosi's plan B might be to convince her opponents and maybe some Republicans to vote "present" to lower her threshold of victory, but the no votes in the letter have sworn they wont do that because any speaker "elected" with a "majority" that is less than 218 would be a very weak speaker, always under threat of being removed if she doesn't do what the "present" voters want.
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Tatsuta Age posted:truly a who's who of "who?" A bunch of those people were just elected this year.
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moulton is my rep. he appeared in the iraq war documentary "no end in sight".
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Tim Ryan leads the NPR caucus in that only NPR gives a gently caress they exist.
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Nonsense posted:Pelosi is fine actually. Tim Ryan leads nobody. He doesn't need a candidate. Once it becomes clear that Pelosi can't win on the floor, then we'll have a knife fight among the whole caucus for the speaker's gavel.
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pookel posted:I think that it's a more a case where there's massive bipartisan public support to fix parts of our criminal justice system (Democrats because it's unjust and stupid and doesn't work, Republicans because it's *expensive* and stupid and doesn't work), and a few hard-core old-school conservatives including Jeff Sessions were opposed to it, but now that he's gone, Trump is happy to support something he's heard is popular. well, thats good at least. hope it passes then.
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Lightning Knight posted:Remind me again why Gillibrand isn't Senate leader? Seniority, she has only been around since 09 The real question is why isn't Ron Wyden, he has seniority over Schumer and is actually decent Though the real answer is that Harry Reid picked Schumer
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The judge said he's not sure how he'll rule, and will think about it. https://twitter.com/ErikWemple/status/1062836167022952448
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Groovelord Neato posted:moulton is my rep. he appeared in the iraq war documentary "no end in sight". Was he pro iraq war in that documentary? Is he a dem to the right of pelosi?
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The Glumslinger posted:Though the real answer is that Harry Reid picked Schumer Harry Reid, you dick. 
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Teabag Dome Scandal posted:Was he pro iraq war in that documentary? Is he a dem to the right of pelosi? Arguably, most of the Dems that are to the left of Pelosi got voted in this election cycle. Not all, but a large amount.
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Teabag Dome Scandal posted:Was he pro iraq war in that documentary? Is he a dem to the right of pelosi? He's a member of the 'New Democrats', effectively marking him as a member of the party's right.
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haveblue posted:Antiantifa 
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/14/poli...&utm_term=image new trump is mad as gently caress and looking like poo poo article.
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evilweasel posted:suing to halt the vote count...when you're behind How exact do signatures need to match what is on file? It seems kinda nuts to me that a ballot can be discarded based on potential minor discrepancies in a signature.
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pookel posted:I think that it's a more a case where there's massive bipartisan public support to fix parts of our criminal justice system (Democrats because it's unjust and stupid and doesn't work, Republicans because it's *expensive* and stupid and doesn't work), and a few hard-core old-school conservatives including Jeff Sessions were opposed to it, but now that he's gone, Trump is happy to support something he's heard is popular. There isn't even remotely bipartisan support, Democrats like the free slave labour and Republicans like how easy it is to lock up minorities
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El Pollo Blanco posted:How exact do signatures need to match what is on file? It seems kinda nuts to me that a ballot can be discarded based on potential minor discrepancies in a signature. That's the point, and yeah it's nuts.
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Feldegast42 posted:If somehow Trump and Pence get removed from office we find a new way to shoot themselves in the foot by then elevating Chuck "fuckin" Grassley to be the leader of the free world lol @ thinking the US president is the "leader of the free world"
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gently caress Chuck Schumer. Pelosi justifiably should be called out when she gets too far out of line and I'd be happy with a further left replacement! That said, the fact that there's this huge debate over Pelosi but Schumer apparently got a free pass from the party and even the left seems more interested in bagging on Pelosi than Schumer is ridiculous. This Facebook stuff needs to get spread and I hope people protest his office.
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exploded mummy posted:the only thing close to this is that they put in some fast track or special consideration if you get 290 sponsors on a bill or for an amendment if you can get 20 Democrats and 20 Republicans to sign off on it Nice, so when round 2 of cutting out Wall Street regulations comes around they won't have to fight the democratic base about it Man, the 8 days of having a democratic majority in the House were pretty sweet
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Mince Pieface posted:gently caress Chuck Schumer. Pelosi justifiably should be called out when she gets too far out of line and I'd be happy with a further left replacement! the only reason the left is calling pelosi poo poo right now is because everyone's trying to defend her experience or whatever as she's actively trying to assist republicans Schumer never got a free pass, p. much everyone on the left hates him
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Teabag Dome Scandal posted:Was he pro iraq war in that documentary? Is he a dem to the right of pelosi? he was a marine who served there so acts as a talking head for how it was hosed up. https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1062839169586749440
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Mince Pieface posted:gently caress Chuck Schumer. Pelosi justifiably should be called out when she gets too far out of line and I'd be happy with a further left replacement! Pelosi is getting the attention because she is going to (possibly) have the power. Senate minority leader is a position of relatively little consequence.
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Mince Pieface posted:gently caress Chuck Schumer. Pelosi justifiably should be called out when she gets too far out of line and I'd be happy with a further left replacement! Yinlock posted:the only reason the left is calling pelosi poo poo right now is because everyone's trying to defend her experience or whatever as she's actively trying to assist republicans this schumer has more or less no redeeming qualities and i wish he'd go away haveblue posted:Pelosi is getting the attention because she is going to (possibly) have the power. Senate minority leader is a position of relatively little consequence. this too i guess
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Mince Pieface posted:gently caress Chuck Schumer. Pelosi justifiably should be called out when she gets too far out of line and I'd be happy with a further left replacement! yeah, like all schumer does is kiss corperate rear end and scream about decorum while he sells everyone out so he gets to shake mitch the turtles hand.
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Groovelord Neato posted:he was a marine who served there so acts as a talking head for how it was hosed up. I know what's leading off Hannity tonight...
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haveblue posted:Pelosi is getting the attention because she is going to (possibly) have the power. Senate minority leader is a position of relatively little consequence. I suppose that's fair, although Schumer's role in the kavanaugh stuff seemed to lend him at least some perceived voice for Democrats which is pretty bad imo
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haveblue posted:Pelosi is getting the attention because she is going to (possibly) have the power. Senate minority leader is a position of relatively little consequence. good point, but she has done good in the past, yeah if we can get a hard noses progressive to replace her, gently caress yeah, but i'll take her any day over chuck schumer.
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Also Schumer was just re-elected by acclamation (meaning a unanimous or near-unanimous voice vote) so there's neither the opportunity nor apparently the will to stir his poo poo up now.
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theblackw0lf posted:Speaking of Facebook So they aren’t just complicit in the sense that they allow their platform to perpetuate this poo poo, they’re actively involved. Cool. Good decision to delete Facebook a year ago, me.
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haveblue posted:Pelosi is getting the attention because she is going to (possibly) have the power. Senate minority leader is a position of relatively little consequence. while Schumer can't outright stop the republicans there are a lot of things he can do to seriously hinder them, things he regularly trades away in exchange for vague promises of nothing from mitch
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah, like all schumer does is kiss corperate rear end and scream about decorum while he sells everyone out so he gets to shake mitch the turtles hand. Schumer is  personified. It's disturbingly telling he always gets a free pass while Pelosi gets vilified.
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