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Department of Education is reforming rules on how sexual assault is investigated on college campuses so the real victims are protected, the accused. quote:Education Secretary Betsy DeVos is set to release a sweeping overhaul of how colleges and universities must handle allegations of sexual assault and harassment, giving new rights to the accused, including the ability to cross-examine their accusers, people familiar with the matter said. https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...m=.cdaf55d5b54d
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My dad grew up in Arizona so Goldwater was his senator, and he basically worships the ground he walked on. He loving hates Trump, but he keeps holding Goldwater up as the exemplar of what Republicans should be. I've tried telling him that Goldwater is the reason the GOP is the way it is today, and that it was wrong of him to oppose the CRA, but all I get out of him is "well he actually wasn't racist and he said he regretted the decision [long after he retired from politics of course]". I'm definitely glad he's not a chud, but the centrist garbage can be really frustrating. After the midterms he told me that he hoped the Dems learned the lesson that they need to run more moderate candidates rather than "hardcore progressives" like Gillum and O'Rourke.
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If we had a parliamentary system there would be room for a centrist party. It would be garbage poo poo for idiots and we would introduce all sorts of new problems switching to that system, but at least we wouldn't have to be all in on "liberal" values and "conservative" values. As it stands right now both parties are largely just loosely organized coalitions and every now and then a central theme coalesces long enough for them to do something about it.
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Vasudus posted:If we had a parliamentary system there would be room for a centrist party. It would be garbage poo poo for idiots and we would introduce all sorts of new problems switching to that system, but at least we wouldn't have to be all in on "liberal" values and "conservative" values. As it stands right now both parties are largely just loosely organized coalitions and every now and then a central theme coalesces long enough for them to do something about it. nz's system isn't perfect but the way it normally winds up working is that you get two larger parties that need the votes of the smaller, more radical parties to gain power assuming good faith actors (which to be fair, most of them have been so far) it means you tend to get better results than just from one party that doesn't have to give a gently caress
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Nov 14, 2018 20:57
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BigDave posted:Department of Education is reforming rules on how sexual assault is investigated on college campuses so the real victims are protected, the accused. Why is it up on colleges to investigate at all? Shouldn't this be a matter for police and judge/jury in a criminal matter and then for the college to penalize or not based on court findings? I'm probably missing something, but I am convinced my college has the worst admin services and have hosed up everything from my transfer to my pending graduation at least once so trusting them to handle something like that is not something I'd take on faith.
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BigDave posted:Department of Education is reforming rules on how sexual assault is investigated on college campuses so the real victims are protected, the accused. The old regulations were a massive overcorrection that cost universities hundreds of millions of dollars in lawsuits for doing stupid poo poo to students during disciplinary hearings. They really did need to be overhauled, although I'm not confident that DeVos is the one who should be leading the effort.
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Nov 14, 2018 21:53
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Because they don't want colleges to be able to do anything so all their rich white sons can go on as "just boys being boys"
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Defenestrategy posted:Why is it up on colleges to investigate at all? Shouldn't this be a matter for police and judge/jury in a criminal matter and then for the college to penalize or not based on court findings? Colleges generally have a standard of behavior they expect of their students. This can cut both ways. On the one hand, it means they could still punish a student who committed a crime or unethical act who got out of a conviction based on technicality, a deal, or being buddies with law enforcement. See also: colleges that find an administrative way to punish on campus underage drinking or minor vandalism and disorderly conduct without inviting the police into dorms to ticket and arrest people every weekend. (My personal college experience was an admin that erred on the side of telling cops to get bent if they wanted into the dorm without a good reason) On the other, something as serious and difficult to prove as sexual assault isn’t something their administrations are typically well equipped to handle in a great way. In some cases they’ve kicked out some real bad dudes. In others it’s been literal he said vs she said where the accused doesn’t get to face the accuser then gets expelled without any physical evidence. Where it’s probably really hard is if you have an accused who has been accused multiple times but never with criminal court actionable evidence. Saying “let the cops handle it” won’t sit well if you’ve got someone accused several times, but who’s too clever to get nailed by cops. That’s when the power of administrative action is super attractive.
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mlmp08 posted:Unfortunately the GOP defines “jeeping taxes as low as possible” as “keeping taxes impossibly low for my friends and supporters but still increasing net spending anyway” This is really funny when you consider they use "tax and spend" as a pejorative.
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So the NYT actually did some good journalism this week instead of interviewing voters in fly over country. https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1062813760774172672 There's a whole lot of  in here.
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Nov 14, 2018 23:15
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Handsome Ralph posted:So the NYT actually did some good journalism this week instead of interviewing voters in fly over country. Sandberg is a loving monster and Facebook is, at best abetting destabilizing efforts against governments globally. The Soros thing is such horseshit.
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Nov 14, 2018 23:19
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But its worth it to stay in touch with friends and family, a previously impossible thing to accomplish
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Nov 14, 2018 23:23
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i really dislike mark fuckerberg
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Fuckin' 2018 man. At least he's out of the presidential running now. https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1062839169586749440?s=19
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Nov 14, 2018 23:53
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And so ends the tale of the Bastaman.
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Nov 14, 2018 23:56
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Aaaaand there's another facebook talking point.
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facialimpediment posted:Fuckin' 2018 man. At least he's out of the presidential running now. I can't keep up with all this poo poo now - I mean literally, it's information overload.
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Nov 15, 2018 00:01
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This will make Trump innocent! - a chud
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ok, i keep forgetting, where'd the chud nickname come from.
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Woodchip posted:ok, i keep forgetting, where'd the chud nickname come from. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqDToaLuJ7I
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I love that that movie has probably gotten more views in the past 2 years than it probably did in the previous 25 combined
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Woodchip posted:ok, i keep forgetting, where'd the chud nickname come from. It comes from the movie, linked above, but I think it mostly gained popularity from twitter and the Chapo Trap House podcast.
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facialimpediment posted:Fuckin' 2018 man. At least he's out of the presidential running now.  Edit: that NYT Facebook thing.... https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status...ingawful.com%2F Schumer has to go Hot Karl Marx fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Nov 15, 2018 |
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Hot Karl Marx posted:Edit: that NYT Facebook thing.... What. The. Actual. gently caress. 
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I thought this dude was arrested or something?
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https://twitter.com/passantino/status/1062856614657515520 BASTAMAN LIVES Apparently it was more than likely a Wohl hitjob. So...
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Nov 15, 2018 01:04
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How is that Wohl fucker not in prison? Who on earth is backing him?
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The best theory I've heard is it's a  thing on behalf of Mueller. Since it didn't really do any damage because the news cycles hardly picked it up and quickly forgot about it, he didn't push things. Maybe. Nobody knows.edit: Bastaman will absolutely positively go after Wohl for filing a false police report though, and probably sue him for defamation
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Fallom posted:How is that Wohl fucker not in prison? Who on earth is backing him? The Wheels of Justice turn at the speed of white
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https://twitter.com/LAPDHQ/status/1062858851618156544 I don't know anymore.
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Vasudus posted:The best theory I've heard is it's a It's probably a priorities thing Wohl's petty defamation poo poo just ain't getting the same billing as a major political party being converted robotnik-style into a foreign intelligence asset and money laundering machine.
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Wohls Dad is a chud lawyer who’s a Trump surrogate for Fox News so I’m pretty sure that might be why is son isn’t in shackles.
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FAUXTON posted:It's probably a priorities thing I mean that's fair, but it's not like the special counsel's office itself is the one doing the investigation for Wohl. They're going to hand it off to some goober junior FBI agent from the home office, assuming they even bothered.
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Vasudus posted:I mean that's fair, but it's not like the special counsel's office itself is the one doing the investigation for Wohl. They're going to hand it off to some goober junior FBI agent from the home office, assuming they even bothered. True, they probably didn't bother.
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you yanks might like this illustrated japanese history of america its a thread so click it and more pictures will be in it https://twitter.com/nick_kapur/status/1062823813338091520
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Vasudus posted:https://twitter.com/LAPDHQ/status/1062858851618156544 I wouldn't be shocked if LAPD bought into a Wohl hit job, we know that Wohl is working hard to bribe people.
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CommieGIR posted:I wouldn't be shocked if LAPD bought into a Wohl hit job, we know that Wohl is working hard to bribe people. Would that count as wrongful imprisonment if they issued a warrant and arrested him claiming his wife reported a DV incident, and the wife is like "the gently caress you say? I didn't report a DV incident"
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Hot Karl Marx posted:you yanks might like this illustrated japanese history of america  Don't tread on me mothafucka
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