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https://twitter.com/TomJawetz/status/1062685253024792576 https://twitter.com/williamjordann/status/1062510142124638208
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Honestly if the net result is that republicans waste more money on a candidate that's gonna lose, then fundraise away. I'm kidding, it's garbage and undermines trust in the democratic system
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Nov 14, 2018 19:37
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Blorange posted:That's already calculated. It turns out that Mississippi clocks in right around Poland at .866, and has the lowest HDI of any state. Naw I've checked that out before, they explicitly say on their site somewhere that the American states HDI isn't using the same system as the international HDI, and thus you can't compare them. silence_kit posted:It has a Human Development Index score which is pretty close to Italy, which is a country American liberals do not turn their noses up to, often wish America was more like, and often spend vast sums of money to go to and visit. So in other words this butthurt guy from Mississippi pretending his godawful nightmare state is comparable to Italy is going to very heartbroken. Grape fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Nov 14, 2018 |
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Nov 14, 2018 22:00
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LOL "yeah we'll call it HDI like the well known metric but we'll calculate it differently so we can get high scores, easy peasy"
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Nov 14, 2018 22:51
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According to their racial data, the average black person in a bunch of Northeastern states has a better quality of life than the average white person in a bunch of Mississippi river adjacent states.
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Nov 15, 2018 00:36
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:I'm kidding, it's garbage and undermines trust in the democratic system as if that wasnt completely broken in 2016, or 2000, or uh im sure there's plenty of elections before it where the majority candidate lost
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Nov 15, 2018 00:41
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I spent six months working in the Mississippi Delta. It is barely America as you know it. The water out of tap was beige, the racism rampant, the wages horrifically low, and the hope set to the lowest of ebbs. The most important thing I did was leave. It is not comparable to Poland. I'm not sure it's comparable to El Salvador. And I say that to say El Salvador is far better than you think it is, and Mississippi far, far worse.
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Nov 15, 2018 00:45
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Your Boy Fancy posted:I spent six months working in the Mississippi Delta. It is barely America as you know it. The water out of tap was beige, the racism rampant, the wages horrifically low, and the hope set to the lowest of ebbs. The most important thing I did was leave. Just to make it extra dystopian, isn't it also dotted with luxurious plantation manors?
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Nov 15, 2018 00:54
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Grape posted:Naw I've checked that out before, they explicitly say on their site somewhere that the American states HDI isn't using the same system as the international HDI, and thus you can't compare them. Can you show me where? 'American HDI' seems to have a totally different range of values, so if you tried to compare HDI with 'American HDI' the numbers would be very different. E.g. Mississippi has an 'American HDI' of 3.8, but also has an HDI of 0.866. Grape posted:So in other words this butthurt guy from Mississippi pretending his godawful nightmare state is comparable to Italy is going to very heartbroken. I'm not from Mississippi. I just find it amusing that according to this figure of merit, a place that many American Liberals desperately wish that America was more like has almost the same rating as Mississippi, a place that American Liberals can't talk about without sneering. I'm also pretty annoyed by your classism.
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Nov 15, 2018 01:24
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silence_kit posted:Can you show me where? 'American HDI' seems to have a totally different range of values, so if you tried to compare HDI with 'American HDI' the numbers would be very different. E.g. Mississippi has an 'American HDI' of 3.8, but also has an HDI of 0.866. I'm pretty sure no American liberal is saying we should be more like Poland, specifically.
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Nov 15, 2018 01:34
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silence_kit posted:Can you show me where? 'American HDI' seems to have a totally different range of values, so if you tried to compare HDI with 'American HDI' the numbers would be very different. E.g. Mississippi has an 'American HDI' of 3.8, but also has an HDI of 0.866. I guess the normie HDI did a thing to, I've seen them do it for other countries. I'd still hesitate to compare the data without knowing how things were measured. The idea that Mississippi is on the level of Cyprus is extremely questionable imo (unless the Cyprus data is counting the north part of the island too). quote:I'm not from Mississippi. I just find it amusing that according to this figure of merit, a place that many American Liberals desperately wish that America was more like has almost the same rating as Mississippi, a place that American Liberals can't talk about without sneering. I'm also pretty annoyed by your classism. I don't think I've ever heard "American liberals" fantasize about being like Italy development wise, nor would I think they would want that. So I have no idea what you're talking about. Also I love when the occasional Euro thinks it's classism to marvel at how bad Red States gently caress themselves via GOP. Like you guys don't do the same thing with PiS Poland and the like.
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Nov 15, 2018 01:48
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Grape posted:I don't think I've ever heard "American liberals" fantasize about being like Italy development wise, nor would I think they would want that. So I have no idea what you're talking about. A lot of American High Culture is just aping Europe and desperately wanting to be like Europe.
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Nov 15, 2018 02:11
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There's a pretty big difference between going to an Italian opera and wanting Sicily's level of development in your country
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Nov 15, 2018 02:55
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Pakled posted:I'm pretty sure no American liberal is saying we should be more like Poland, specifically. Especially Poland now since they seem to have forgotten how bad Nazis are
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Nov 15, 2018 03:15
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silence_kit posted:A lot of American High Culture is just aping Europe and desperately wanting to be like Europe. Americans largely associate Italy with guys in white beaters and gold chains yelling at each-other while wildly gesturing.
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Nov 15, 2018 05:05
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silence_kit posted:A lot of American High Culture is just aping Europe and desperately wanting to be like Europe. Cool, so what you said is even dumber than people thought it was.
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Nov 15, 2018 12:30
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Grape posted:Americans largely associate Italy with guys in white beaters and gold chains yelling at each-other while wildly gesturing. To be fair, so do Italians.
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Nov 15, 2018 15:29
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Grape posted:I guess the normie HDI did a thing to, I've seen them do it for other countries. I'd still hesitate to compare the data without knowing how things were measured. It does count all of Cyprus as one state.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:56
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I down-graded... from CT to France.
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Nov 15, 2018 21:29
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https://twitter.com/aldotcom/status/1062820264105385984 He will almost certainly lose which is too bad. He's been a better senator than he has any right to be from that state.
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Nov 15, 2018 23:10
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/aldotcom/status/1062820264105385984 He has a much higher chance of getting re-elected than he had of getting elected. https://twitter.com/davidbailey0708/status/1063033247339294720 It's been over a year and there are still people who will go to bat for a pedophile who lost. Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Nov 15, 2018 |
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Nov 15, 2018 23:16
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If there's another D+8-9 year he can force the Republican opponent to spend more money on his campaign and filter less to down-ticket races but yeah unless he's up against another pedophile (always possible) he's toast
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Nov 15, 2018 23:17
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cheetah7071 posted:If there's another D+8-9 year he can force the Republican opponent to spend more money on his campaign and filter less to down-ticket races but yeah unless he's up against another pedophile (always possible) he's toast the dream scenario is basically that Sessions tries to get his seat back, and Moore runs against him
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Nov 15, 2018 23:24
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/aldotcom/status/1062820264105385984 I wouldn't say "almost certainly", as there's still a certain pedophile who might try to run again.
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Nov 15, 2018 23:24
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karthun posted:It does count all of Cyprus as one state. I was under the impression that they would survey the de facto territory of the Republic of Cyprus, similar to how I'm almost 100% sure they don't include Taiwan in the PROC data. Though it would explain the ranking since parts of the North are grody af.
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Nov 15, 2018 23:56
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Ague Proof posted:He has a much higher chance of getting re-elected than he had of getting elected. Incumbency is a big advantage but it's not as big of an advantage as your opponent being a child molester.
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Nov 16, 2018 00:03
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Certainly Moore is gonna run again. Would he win another primary?
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Nov 16, 2018 00:07
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https://twitter.com/jessieopie/status/1063179590640828417
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Yo I don't know if anybody else lives in southern Colorado but if anyone does and has good politics, I put in to organize a DSA chapter out of Pueblo (I don't want to have to go to the Springs for meetings and you shouldn't either) and you are invited to join me on this goon project. Preemptive: yes, there are other people involved, this would only be moderately weird and goony.
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Nov 16, 2018 00:11
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Pakled posted:Incumbency is a big advantage but it's not as big of an advantage as your opponent being a child molester. And he still just barely won.
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Nov 16, 2018 00:13
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Roy Moore wouldn't win any primary against any sort of credible opponent. All Sessions or whoever would have to do is air ads saying "Moore lost, to a Democrat, in Alabama. He'll do it again if you let him"
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Nov 16, 2018 00:14
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cheetah7071 posted:Roy Moore wouldn't win any primary against any sort of credible opponent. All Sessions or whoever would have to do is air ads saying "Moore lost, to a Democrat, in Alabama. He'll do it again if you let him" Not if they feel the seat was robbed from them. They think he was falsely accused of some things, the rest is actually ok, and the media victimized him because they can't take responsibility. Trump-backed Moore vs Alabama GOP backed Sessions for a Doug Jones plurality.
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Nov 16, 2018 00:33
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cheetah7071 posted:Roy Moore wouldn't win any primary against any sort of credible opponent. All Sessions or whoever would have to do is air ads saying "Moore lost, to a Democrat, in Alabama. He'll do it again if you let him" I don't think so. Sessions is not popular with the chud crowd. They would just blame voter fraud or w/e for Moore's lost and happily vote for him in a primary again. Jones keeping his seat because of Moore would be the twist 2020 needs.
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Nov 16, 2018 00:38
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Sessions is tainted by trump and also been smeared by him handily, Sessions cant really get support from Trump in an election without having attack ads writing themselves, at the same time lots of republicans hate his guts because he didn't do everything dear leader asked. Sessions going for his seat again has a high chance of him winning but it is way harder then other years and sucks effort from other states they desperately need that effort in. Moore running again would be amazing because even in a presidential election year he likely would lose Specifically if Jones has started to energize the the african american population of Alabama
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Nov 16, 2018 01:01
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I assume Alabama has plenty of ambitious state-level republicans I've never heard of to run against Sessions and Moore.
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Nov 16, 2018 01:05
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UCS Hellmaker posted:Sessions is tainted by trump and also been smeared by him handily, Sessions cant really get support from Trump in an election without having attack ads writing themselves, at the same time lots of republicans hate his guts because he didn't do everything dear leader asked. Sessions going for his seat again has a high chance of him winning but it is way harder then other years and sucks effort from other states they desperately need that effort in. Moore running again would be amazing because even in a presidential election year he likely would lose Specifically if Jones has started to energize the the african american population of Alabama yeah, sessions used to be popular in alabama but trump forced them to pick between sessions and trump and it turns out they like trump more ain't no way in hell trump would be able to bite the bullet and support sessions instead of repeatedly attacking him
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Nov 16, 2018 02:57
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https://twitter.com/charlesbethea/status/1062771117121781761
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Nov 16, 2018 03:37
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ACAB, that's loving gross
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Nov 16, 2018 07:46
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I like how he's basically saying more voter suppression would have helped him win
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mandatory lesbian posted:I like how he's basically saying more voter suppression would have helped him win wisconsin purged what, hundreds of thousands of inactive voters after 2016, and it still wasn't enough to save walker from finally getting turfed. it owns
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