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Nook posted:I like Aatrox's kit a lot if only for how absurdly basic it is but I think he's getting a little too much for free out of it, like I'm not sure how much he really needs the physvamp on his E when he is probably already going to build Death's Dance at some point. Man, Old Aatrox's kit was waaay more basic than anything New Aatrox has. No resources, one of his abilities was just a toggle, he had a medium cooldown snare, and his Q was literally "Click on man to be next to man, then autoattack man." New Aatrox uses E to position Q and W hits, Q itself is a three hit passive, and his W is weird and cool but it's definitely not as basic as a toggle. Old Aatrox was the best. Attack speed+lifestyle based champions are the best. New Aatrox doesn't really have a reason to buy attack speed items and it makes me sad  . I wish they had just made New Aatrox some other Darkin and called it good. The world has room for another Darkin champion. Also I like old Aatrox's VA more.
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Old Aatrox was unbalancable (literally had an ultimate for a Q and a ridiculous passive and became broken just because they introduced conqueror), one of the buggiest champions ever made, and there are a ton of other champions you can play if you want to play the attack speed bruiser archetype.
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Nov 14, 2018 21:18
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I'm not sure I agree with you on your points. I mean, Yorick and Mordekaiser exist, and I think those two alone make any other champion ineligible for 'this champion is too buggy' awards. I don't think his old Q was on par with an ult at all, either. It was a medium cooldown skillshot with a wind-up, the popup area wasn't that big and it didn't do much damage itself, and for most of his time as a hero it cost him... I think it was 10% of his current health to use? An AoE stun does not mandate something be an ultimate. A conditional self-revive doesn't really qualify as ridiculous to me. I also never really bought into the idea that he suddenly became broken, I think he became playable but was new, so people flocked to him. I think if you give him more time in the meta he settles down rather quickly as people have more time to experiment against him. There also aren't a lot of lifesteal AND attack speed based bruisers, are there? Trynd, I guess maybe sorta? He's not really about lifesteal as a core component of his durability. One of the big perks of Aatrox was picking a fight against some other bruiser in top lane, losing until you hit 40% life, then watching as your lifesteal and attack speed stabilized your life total. The combination focus on attack speed/lifesteal bruiser was a huge plus to me that isn't really covered anywhere else.
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Nov 14, 2018 21:37
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League is promoting #IsItMeta and encouraging to try weird poo poo in probably the single year there are the least interesting overall champion and item changes in the preseason, nice.
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Nov 14, 2018 21:38
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Time to play support ap kha every game.
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Nov 14, 2018 21:41
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Time to play support ap kha every game. AP J4 support is viable, take it from me, a gold V J4 main with a 33% win rate
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Nov 14, 2018 21:49
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Sexpansion posted:AP J4 support is viable, take it from me, a gold V J4 main with a 33% win rate if you beat someone with that build does it mean they're flagged for losses
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Nov 14, 2018 21:51
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CYBEReris posted:if you beat someone with that build does it mean they're flagged for losses I have it on pretty good authority from one guy that this is true.
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Nov 14, 2018 21:59
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CYBEReris posted:if you beat someone with that build does it mean they're flagged for losses yes 
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Nov 14, 2018 22:01
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Sexpansion posted:AP J4 support is viable, take it from me, a gold V J4 main with a 33% win rate Fwiw Nidhogg, a challenger J4 main, played it ~an amount~ when ardent was real dumb (something about flag proccing it on a bunch of people?). He also regularly builds Wits End as a core part of his build as jungle J4, so who knows.
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Nov 14, 2018 22:08
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RIP ZEEZ
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Zodiac5000 posted:I'm not sure I agree with you on your points. I mean, Yorick and Mordekaiser exist, and I think those two alone make any other champion ineligible for 'this champion is too buggy' awards. I don't think his old Q was on par with an ult at all, either. It was a medium cooldown skillshot with a wind-up, the popup area wasn't that big and it didn't do much damage itself, and for most of his time as a hero it cost him... I think it was 10% of his current health to use? An AoE stun does not mandate something be an ultimate. A conditional self-revive doesn't really qualify as ridiculous to me. You could try Xin top. He loves attack speed and lifesteal and hitting mans and has an engage.
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Nov 14, 2018 22:10
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foutre posted:Fwiw Nidhogg, a challenger J4 main, played it ~an amount~ when ardent was real dumb (something about flag proccing it on a bunch of people?). He also regularly builds Wits End as a core part of his build as jungle J4, so who knows. Yeah he plays it, he also does lethal tempo J4 in jungle and got to challenger so really... NA lol. Arcturas posted:You could try Xin top. He loves attack speed and lifesteal and hitting mans and has an engage. Or you could play Master Yi top, as god intended when he let there be light.
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Nov 14, 2018 22:14
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I never considered Xin. He might not be exactly right but getting a non-triforce attack speed item isn't the worst choice for him so that's something, and beggars can't be choosers. Master Yi is too pure to belong in top lane. He belongs free, roaming the jungles and midlane like a majestic violent gazelle. I would not chain him to top island like he was some foul Yorick. Hell, maybe I'll just pick Mordekaiser. I don't think it's ever the wrong choice, but it is very very rarely the right one. Maybe this is the moment - Wits End lifestyle.
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Nov 14, 2018 23:32
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Zodiac5000 posted:I never considered Xin. He might not be exactly right but getting a non-triforce attack speed item isn't the worst choice for him so that's something, and beggars can't be choosers. Master Yi is too pure to belong in top lane. He belongs free, roaming the jungles and midlane like a majestic violent gazelle. I would not chain him to top island like he was some foul Yorick. Hell, maybe I'll just pick Mordekaiser. I don't think it's ever the wrong choice, but it is very very rarely the right one. Maybe this is the moment - Wits End lifestyle. Yorick owns, and I will not have his name sullied by this
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Nov 14, 2018 23:36
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More like Yorick Bori(NG)
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Nov 15, 2018 00:06
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gently caress it. Just gonna learn to play Singed. Nothing can possibly go wrong.
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Nov 15, 2018 00:08
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singed is great but be prepared to feed horribly at first because there's nothing else that plays like him in the entire game and it takes a lot of getting used to
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Nov 15, 2018 00:17
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can I play Graves Support next season?
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Nov 15, 2018 00:33
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CYBEReris posted:singed is great but be prepared to feed horribly at first because there's nothing else that plays like him in the entire game and it takes a lot of getting used to Theres a few useless split pushers in this game, regretfully
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Nov 15, 2018 01:06
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Drone_Fragger posted:Reworked Leblanc is marginally better because her new R mimics the last spell cast so she can’t quite as easily gin you out of nowhere. You mean original LeBlanc.
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Nov 15, 2018 02:52
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Is original Yorrick still in this game where you can spam ghosts and get pentakills because of the ghost heals.
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Nov 15, 2018 03:10
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Anidav posted:Is original Yorrick still in this game where you can spam ghosts and get pentakills because of the ghost heals. No but he got a cool rework and has a better time siccing his ghouls on people and has a slightly less powerful jarvan ult for a W and can either use his ult to take two towers while everyone's slapfighting in mid or let it splitpush on its own while he joins them The downside is a lot of your power is locked behind your ult but you're fairly tanky and can poo poo out damage in extended trades e: also he still has a heal it's just on his Q which is an empowered auto now
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Nov 15, 2018 03:39
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I just really miss the ghost heals.
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Nov 15, 2018 04:16
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Tired Moritz posted:I just really miss the ghost heals. Ghost heal what is this a level 5 game?? Folks,
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Anidav posted:Is original Yorrick still in this game where you can spam ghosts and get pentakills because of the ghost heals. No, now he's a depressed goth that murders towers instead of champions.
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Nov 15, 2018 06:18
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Akali's shroud would probably be fine if it didn't last so long, the problem is level of zone control the thing provides for such an extended period of time feels really off for an assassin.
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Nov 15, 2018 06:48
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mistaya posted:Akali's shroud would probably be fine if it didn't last so long, the problem is level of zone control the thing provides for such an extended period of time feels really off for an assassin. Agree. It also needs to not work under tower. It should expand a bit quicker and dissipate faster. If wind effects helped disperse it that would be neat counterplau too.
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Nov 15, 2018 07:28
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CYBEReris posted:singed is great but be prepared to feed horribly at first because there's nothing else that plays like him in the entire game and it takes a lot of getting used to singed KIND OF plays like a poke support in laning. i dont know, i find a lot of bot lane skills translate to his laning phase, primarily learning to harass and drop creep aggro and learning to harass while maintaining your own cs.
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Nov 15, 2018 09:42
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Invalid Validation posted:Riot doesn’t know how to create good and balanced assassins. AP Malphite wants a word
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Nov 15, 2018 12:50
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I find fizz kind of annoying but it's probably balanced well also
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many assassins is well balanced, the problem is when you start taking a look at zed, zed inspires a trend in assassins which is a fetus rotting blight on the game: assassins that have non clear weaknesses. why does zed have very safe and good waveclear? why does he also have the best last hitting? obviously riot wants people to play their characters but making them a generalist pick with no clear weakness is not the answer. you see little glimmers of this in akali, though they harken back to her earlier design. her sustain was always annoying, but fair. now she has s tier zone control and the best solo engage/disengage tools
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Nov 15, 2018 13:56
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its so hard to lose lane gracefully against her because of the shroud. i think laning vs op champs like aatrox and akali really does make you much much better at the game though.
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Nov 15, 2018 18:57
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Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm 4/4 on reports getting punished in the last month. Im doing my part to make League a better place (by scoring easy points reporting people who use unfiltered racist language)
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Nov 15, 2018 19:09
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Sexpansion posted:I find fizz kind of annoying but it's probably balanced well also Youre in for a treat when someones least annoying spell is a giant AoE stun
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Nov 15, 2018 19:34
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strong bird posted:Youre in for a treat when someones least annoying spell is a giant AoE stun Pretty sure Fizz's least annoying spell is the auto reset nobody bitches about that
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Nov 15, 2018 21:30
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fizz is cool and we are friends. he doesnt like the mean stuff you guys say about him but he tries not to let it get to him.
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Nov 15, 2018 22:19
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Mikujin posted:You mean original LeBlanc. No, the new reworked leblanc, which is basically old leblanc after they reverted her, but the R mimics last spell cast instead of the next spell you press.
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Nov 15, 2018 22:53
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Drone_Fragger posted:No, the new reworked leblanc, which is basically old leblanc after they reverted her, but the R mimics last spell cast instead of the next spell you press. That's how old, pre-rework LeBlanc worked, too. Pretty much the only difference between current LeBlanc and pre-rework LeBlanc is some numbers changes and that E no longer slows.
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Nov 16, 2018 00:20
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Transient People posted:Pretty sure Fizz's least annoying spell is the auto reset Nobody knows about that spell, its a secret 4th spell that guy has spell a) leap and invulnerability spell, also does aoe damage some reason (Very Annoying) spell b) dash and does aoe damage (Annoying) spell c) aoe stun spell d) the unknown and unknowable Lost Spell
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Transient People posted:Pretty sure Fizz's least annoying spell is the auto reset I think I get angry about it all the time? That's the cause of the stupid strong dot he has that has made me waste a billion flashes, right?
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