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Nephrite
Aug 18, 2006
Lipstick Apathy
They never recast Banjou (for some reason) despite using Daitarn plot all the time.

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Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Nephrite posted:

They never recast Banjou (for some reason) despite using Daitarn plot all the time.

But they did recast him?

Hokuto
Jul 21, 2002


Soiled Meat
It's not necessarily a matter of recasting. They wrote Garnet and Giada out as retiring from military life to start a family and have kids. I could see them doing something similar with Excellen, especially considering that it's a topic she's broached before. I think if they wrote her out at all, it would be in a an uplifting and respectful way.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Hokuto posted:

It's not necessarily a matter of recasting. They wrote Garnet and Giada out as retiring from military life to start a family and have kids. I could see them doing something similar with Excellen, especially considering that it's a topic she's broached before. I think if they wrote her out at all, it would be in a an uplifting and respectful way.
on the other hand there's a pretty big difference between excellent and garnet and giada. excellen's been one of the main characters for the entire franchise, i wouldn't want her written out with just 'and then she went home forever'

KoB
May 1, 2009

Nephrite posted:

They never recast Banjou (for some reason) despite using Daitarn plot all the time.

They already got someone to do a perfect imitation of Bright, I bet he could do a Banjo if they needed.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
Feels like the voice cast taboos have been fading lately anyway.

Caphi
Jan 6, 2012

INCREDIBLE

Endorph posted:

on the other hand there's a pretty big difference between excellent and garnet and giada. excellen's been one of the main characters for the entire franchise, i wouldn't want her written out with just 'and then she went home forever'

If she is out, Alchemie's out too. Let her and Kyosuke adopt Alchemie and go. I don't think it would be bad for their characters at all, and what's left of the Einst plot can now be carried by Arriere with help from Axel and Lamia.

Brunom1
Sep 5, 2011

Ask me about being the best dad ever.

Caphi posted:

If she is out, Alchemie's out too. Let her and Kyosuke adopt Alchemie and go. I don't think it would be bad for their characters at all, and what's left of the Einst plot can now be carried between Axel, Lamia, and Arriere.

I reckon the last dangling Einst plot thread is Beowulf, who's likely going to come in tied with L's originals (Gloria is all but surely the president of the SM World's Federation). If so, you really should have Kyosuke and Alfimi for that, meaning Excellen has to come in as well. For that matter, I could potentially see one of the girls being killed by Bad Kyosuke as a way to raise the stakes (Alfimi's more likely), but not both.

They could recast her with Xiaomu's VA, who has a pretty similar voice, but I think it's way more likely they'll just keep them both around with Mizutani's lines. Retirement can wait until after Beowulf is dealt with.

Hokuto
Jul 21, 2002


Soiled Meat

Endorph posted:

on the other hand there's a pretty big difference between excellent and garnet and giada. excellen's been one of the main characters for the entire franchise, i wouldn't want her written out with just 'and then she went home forever'

Oh yeah absolutely. I wouldn't want or expect her to be written off summarily. I could envision a mini-story or even a manga thing that summarizes it. Sort of a farewell chapter, like what they did for Sumire in Sakura Wars when Michie Tomizawa retired (in her case, they made a whole OVA, but that's likely not in the cards here).

MarsDragon
Apr 27, 2010

"You've all learned something very important here: there are things in this world you just can't change!"
I can't picture Beowulf being anything but a speedbump even now, let alone after Keisar Ephes.

Nephrite
Aug 18, 2006
Lipstick Apathy
I can't loving wait for Mizuki Ichiro to come back as Kesar Ephes.

HitTheTargets
Mar 3, 2006

I came here to laugh at you.

MarsDragon posted:

I can't picture Beowulf being anything but a speedbump even now, let alone after Keisar Ephes.

Reboot the series but it's in Shadow Mirror world. You don't recast Excellen because RIP Lemon.

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.

Rascyc posted:

Feels like the voice cast taboos have been fading lately anyway.

They still haven't used the new voice actress for the Puru's in SRW, have they?

1st Stage Midboss
Oct 29, 2011

Have they actually recast anyone in an SRW game outside of characters who never appeared before the death of their original VA? Bright doesn't really count, because he had already been recast for Unicorn so it wasn't their decision so much as it was taking advantage of what's in the series included. Of course, OG characters have specific lines for everything in a way characters in the licensed games don't. The absence of that for all the new enemies would be very noticeable, and recasting your own characters is different to using a new VA for a character someone else owns, so it could still happen.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Caphi posted:

If she is out, Alchemie's out too. Let her and Kyosuke adopt Alchemie and go. I don't think it would be bad for their characters at all, and what's left of the Einst plot can now be carried by Arriere with help from Axel and Lamia.
I'd be down for like, 'Excellen and Kyosuke adopt Alchemie and go, they rejoin three chapters before the end with them using archive lines' Using them in minimal roles means you can justify them not having any new voice clips but it'd feel kinda weird for them to just be sitting at home with their mechs collecting dust when the world's about to get a bomb dropped on it or whatever.

Hokuto
Jul 21, 2002


Soiled Meat

1st Stage Midboss posted:

Have they actually recast anyone in an SRW game outside of characters who never appeared before the death of their original VA?

I believe they recast Duke Freed in Super Robot Wars Z1 after using the original VA for previous games like Impact.

TheMajinZenki
Aug 17, 2005

Hokuto posted:

I believe they recast Duke Freed in Super Robot Wars Z1 after using the original VA for previous games like Impact.

more precisely, Duke was voiced by Kenyu Horiuchi (Irm's VA) in Complete Box, and Koichi Yamadera took over from Impact onward.
Grendizer may have absent from F because Tomiyama died around the production of SRW 4S, in fact if I'm reading this correctly Duke was one of the few main characters who had no voice acting at all in that game (the other being Zambot's Kappei; only main characters had voice acting in 4S, from what I'm reading).

MechaX
Nov 19, 2011

"Let's be positive! Let's start a fire!"

Infinity Gaia posted:

Sieguarlion is still a drat good, if not particularly exciting mech. The Gigan is really showing its age though.

I'm still salty they didn't give a heroic version of the Turtle + Phoenix mech to one of the other Alpha pairs. It was RIGHT THERE.

I want Yuuki and Carla to get Turtle+Phoenix/Phoenix+Turtle mech because I like both of their designs but I'm tired of them warming the bench with their butt ugly SRW A real robots

Ethiser
Dec 31, 2011

I’ll agree with the first part of that statement, but their robots from A are great. Real robots that are nothing but mobile gun platforms will always be good.

Hokuto
Jul 21, 2002


Soiled Meat
Since there's a stream 18 hours from now (6 AM CST my time), I'm gonna make a discord call for people to hang out in closer to time. If you want in, feel free to join my little SA-centric SRW discord HERE and hit me up (dramata).

Caphi
Jan 6, 2012

INCREDIBLE
I for one am excited for the reveal of Super Robot Wars Z4: Hibiki Is God Now.

Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"
Apparantly, the series list for the next mainline SRW got leaked:



Series include: Zambot 3, Daitarn 3, Aura Battler Dunbine, Gundam ZZ, Char's Counterattack, Victory Gundam , Gundam Wing EW, Gundam SEED Destiny, Gundam Unicorn, Gundam IBO, Cross Ange, New Getter Robo, Mazinger Z Infinity, Gaogaigar and Gaogaigar FINAL, Sakura Taisen, Saber Marionette J, Chouja Raideen, and Macross Delta.

Gotta say that's a mixed bag IMO. I think Zambot, Daitarn, and especially Cross Ange have overstayed their welcome. Kinda iffy on Gundam Wing EW, and SEED too. Unicorn, IBO, New Getter, and Gaogaigar are much appreciated though.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

Neo_Crimson posted:

Chouja Raideen

neat

MechaX
Nov 19, 2011

"Let's be positive! Let's start a fire!"
Victory, IBO, Gaogaigar, and Sakura Taisen should be pretty interesting.

But Macross Delta though... Would Harmony Gold want to stick its nose into this if it gets an English translation?

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Macross? Interesting.

Ethiser
Dec 31, 2011

If that list is true and we don’t get an English version of this I’m going to be pretty hurt.

With a few power armor shows I’m disappointed they didn’t pull the trigger on Tekkaman Blade in a console game.

Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"

MechaX posted:

Victory, IBO, Gaogaigar, and Sakura Taisen should be pretty interesting.

But Macross Delta though... Would Harmony Gold want to stick its nose into this if it gets an English translation?

An english translation would still be for the Asian market, and I doubt Harmony Gold could enforce anything in Singapore.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things
I'm mostly looking forward to IBO and I'm glad Dunbine is back.

Hopefully the Wing boys get some more animation work because they were pretty bad in X.

HitTheTargets
Mar 3, 2006

I came here to laugh at you.
Feels weird seeing Victory Gundam in there and nothing else post-Unicorn. Also ZZ, but no Zeta?

Tribladeofchaos
Jul 2, 2008

IT'S SHOWTIME!

I have my doubts on that list myself, Saber Marionette J really?

Ethiser
Dec 31, 2011

HitTheTargets posted:

Feels weird seeing Victory Gundam in there and nothing else post-Unicorn. Also ZZ, but no Zeta?

All the Zeta protagonists suits are in ZZ so all it really means is no Kamille, but he was still in the show so even that’s negotiable.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
Still no Majestic Prince. Darn.

That said, is Mazinger Infinity good?

Davzz
Jul 31, 2008
This leak doesn't really have that much credibility to it, though I don't think it's because of SMJ like a lot of people believe because SRW doesn't care very much about the sanctity of the mecha genre or whatever.

I still think it's very likely to be an OG reveal.

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Please be true because I need Delta

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I just remembered that I have to go work-drinking tonight so I can't watch it live. Stupid Japanese work culture getting in the way of my Japanese anime robot culture!

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Neo_Crimson posted:

An english translation would still be for the Asian market, and I doubt Harmony Gold could enforce anything in Singapore.

I could see them trying similar poo poo to what Sony did to Lik-Sang.

KoB
May 1, 2009
Would be kinda bummed to not get OG but I'd live with IBO and GGG.

Justin_Brett
Oct 23, 2012

GAMERDOME put down LOSER
Cross Ange along with some of these other shows sounds like another "oops, multiple dimensions!" and that's getting a little old isn't it?

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.


gently caress OFF WITH THIS SERIES ALREADY

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chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Please be true because I need Delta

Delta and IBO has been a hope of mine since they both finished airing, if only for how... distinct their ideas of mercenary outfits are.

Macross Delta: We're an escort group for idol singers so that the POWER OF MUSIC can free people from mind control.

Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans: We kill people for money.

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