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Just remember that most MPs have no spines. Most of the conservatives will vote for it. Though it's a bad sign for May that Hoey won't back it.
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Kurtofan posted:Whats a backstop It's the fallback plan to prevent a hard border in Northern Ireland, otherwise things could get all explodey again. Basically NI stays in the customs union so they don't have to put border checks everywhere (there's something like 275 border crossings between Ireland and NI). Except they still haven't agreed on that either, because May and the DUP don't want a border in the Irish sea and the brexit loonies in the tories don't want the whole of the UK to be in the customs union. Basically it's another loving fiasco and another thing they should have been discussing before this dumb idea was even put to a vote.
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It's darkly funny though, as the only thing stopping the ERG forcing through hellscape Brexit is a tiny colonial legacy that Brexiters are obliged to pretend they care about, whilst also highlighting that Ireland, which they consider to be an uppity colony, is now more powerful and influential than England.
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alphabettitouretti posted:It's the fallback plan to prevent a hard border in Northern Ireland, otherwise things could get all explodey again. Yeah, this absolutely insurmountable problem was known about long before the referendum. But we went ahead with it anyway because davey cameron is a pie
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it was entirely surmountable. They’d have voted for a border in the Irish Sea and told the DUP to eat poo poo. But then we had a 2017 election that made that plan impossible and lol May.
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Nov 14, 2018 17:01
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lol if all this ends up with The Troubles 2: More Troubles
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Oh boy I can't wait for them to remove all the bins in train stations again. We'll find a way to blame it on the EU though.
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Fans posted:it was entirely surmountable. They’d have voted for a border in the Irish Sea and told the DUP to eat poo poo. thank gently caress for that lol
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:lol if all this ends up with The Troubles 2: More Troubles well apparently the violence that’s going on in NI is already the worst it’s been since the Good Friday agreement
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Jel Shaker posted:well apparently the violence that’s going on in NI is already the worst it’s been since the Good Friday agreement it’s clear the public sector has failed! time to contract the peacekeeping process out to the private sector :capitalismsay:
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Any Labour MP that votes for May's deal needs to be immediately deselected because they are essentially admitting they would prefer a Tory government to a Labour one via a general election
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Apparently the draft agreement has just been released. Can't wait for hell to break loose.
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Seriously considered having a read of it for a good 10 or so seconds. Which is presumably more thought on reading it Than Rees-Mogg had before putting out his take on it.
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Nov 14, 2018 21:02
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uk determined to die first in order to own the globalists or something
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it’s going to get that far, just like the handover of Hong Kong taking everyone by surprise
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I love how every cabinet minister (on either side) has had a billion opportunities to display a spine, and has thought "no, the people will respect me more if I whinge off the record and then sign off on whatever bullshit is in front of me"
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OhFunny posted:So when should we expect this to go to Parliament? Well the PM should give a statement on the deal tomorrow afternoon, but the thing probably won't get voted on for about a month from what Grant Shapps (ex-Tory Party Chairman) was saying to BBC News. Of course that could all change if Tory 48 backbenchers send in letters to the Chairman of the 1922 Committee saying they've lost confidence in the PM because there will then be a confidence vote among Tory MPs and potentially a leadership contest (though I doubt there's enough Tory MPs willing to overthrow May this close to the March 29th deadline), but even having to prove she has the confidence of her MPs will be a big blow to what little authority she has left tarbrush posted:I love how every cabinet minister (on either side) has had a billion opportunities to display a spine, and has thought "no, the people will respect me more if I whinge off the record and then sign off on whatever bullshit is in front of me" Oh but apparently Esther McVey cried in cabinet after being shouted at, (loving Work & Pensions Secretary can do one, she should be shouted at 24/7 for not immediately shitcanning Universal Credit) therefore we have to feel sorry for her.
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alphabettitouretti posted:Oh boy I can't wait for them to remove all the bins in train stations again. We'll find a way to blame it on the EU though. They'll say poles stole them, along with all the food and medicine
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Could the CSPAM thread double as a sort of UKMT fight club? So disagreements could be hashed out at length without participants having to worry about swallowing the actual thread up in the tedious pedant arguing.
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Vitamin P posted:Could the CSPAM thread double as a sort of UKMT fight club? So disagreements could be hashed out at length without participants having to worry about swallowing the actual thread up in the tedious pedant arguing. this IS the actual thread, d&d is where the pedantry goes
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:lol if all this ends up with The Troubles 2: More Troubles tbf at least riots work fairly well in terms of forcing politicians to change course
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Nov 15, 2018 02:58
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How will this affect Britain's critical shortage of sperm?
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I do not understand British politics, why isn't one of the parties forcefully anti-"smash ourselves in the balls with a hammer repeatedly"
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:How will this affect Britain's critical shortage of sperm? Super Canada will share our strategic cum reserve
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brugroffil posted:I do not understand British politics, why isn't one of the parties forcefully anti-"smash ourselves in the balls with a hammer repeatedly" The people have spoken! <Braces for impact>
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So is the government going to collapse?
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Captain Splendid posted:So is the government going to collapse? probably not
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brugroffil posted:I do not understand British politics, why isn't one of the parties forcefully anti-"smash ourselves in the balls with a hammer repeatedly" Because both major parties perceive (rightly or wrongly) that the parts of their base who voted remain are politically aware loyalists that they can count on for votes anyway, but that there's a chunk of swing voters in the leave camp who need to be courted at all costs.
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Raab's gone https://twitter.com/DominicRaab/status/1062992019449098241?s=19
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I wonder if Tessa May might just have a nervous breakdown at this point
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I kinda admire May for her ability to put up with this poo poo.
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Hopefully the next guy knows about Dover and Calais so they've got a bit of a head start in the job.
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