November Current Events: Der Untergang

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Ataxerxes: Dec 2, 2011; What is a soldier but a miserable pile of eaten cats and strange language?

A small commonity made the most Finnish travel advert I have seen so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IqDDvxPH1k
"Experience nothing."

# ? Nov 16, 2018 14:07

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# ? Jun 1, 2024 04:56

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/16/judge-rotenberg-center-massachusetts-electric-shocks

quote:

In 2010 the Guardian was granted exceptionally rare media accessinside the school. A tour of the institution, with its bright pink and green walls and 6ft-high models of Bugs Bunny and the Wicked Witch of the West, was given by Matthew Israel, a psychologist with no medical training.

Israel came up with the idea of a punishment regime for children when he read a novel called Walden Two. The book described a fictitious utopian community in which positive behavior is encouraged and negative behavior thwarted.

From that kernel of an idea Israel began applying “aversives” on vulnerable children from 1971. Initially he began with spanking with spatulas, pinching and dousing kids with water, and from the early 1990s he switched to electric shocks, going to the lengths of designing his own electricity generator that he called the Graduated Electronic Decelerator (GED).

It wasn’t acceptable in Guantánamo Bay, but it’s apparently acceptable in a special-needs school in Massachusetts
-Laurie Ahern, DRI

For some students, Israel told the Guardian, the GED devices had to be worn long-term. He compared it to wearing glasses or hearing aids. When the Guardian visited the center one of its residents, Brandon, had been living there for 22 years and was still being shocked on average 33 times a week.

shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Nov 16, 2018

# ? Nov 16, 2018 14:38

joat mon: Oct 15, 2009; I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

shame on an IGA posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/16/judge-rotenberg-center-massachusetts-electric-shocks

Walden Two as in, B.F. Skinner's Walden Two.
B.F. Skinner as in Skinner Boxes and beep-boop hard determinism's B.F. Skinner.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 14:59

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

I can believe a death toll in the hundreds. Mass comms are just too good for that many people to go missing in CA.

Shout out for the president to take the opportunity to slam California like he did Puerto Rico.

At least he's consistent(ly lovely).

# ? Nov 16, 2018 15:10

Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

Just imagine an overlay of the victim blaming tweets on the video showing the charred skeletons of people in their cars

True leadership

Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Nov 16, 2018

# ? Nov 16, 2018 15:19

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

SEALs make the news again

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/15/us/navy-seal-edward-gallagher-isis.html#click=https://t.co/iMr2VKnD0f

quote:

Special Operations Chief Gallagher, 39, is locked in the brig, facing charges that during that same deployment � his eighth � he shot indiscriminately at civilians, killed a teenage Islamic State fighter with a handmade custom blade, and then performed his re-enlistment ceremony posing with the teenager�s bloody corpse in front of an American flag.

The Navy has charged Chief Gallagher with premeditated murder, attempted murder and nearly a dozen other offenses, including obstruction of justice and bringing �discredit upon the armed forces.� If he is convicted, he could spend the rest of his life in prison.

Chief Gallagher denies all the charges.

...

several other SEALs in Chief Gallagher�s platoon describing his behavior as reckless and bloodthirsty. They said he fired into civilian crowds, gunned down a girl walking along a riverbank and an old man carrying a water jug, and threatened to kill fellow SEALs if they reported his actions.

Some platoon members were so distraught by the chief�s actions, investigators said, that they tampered with his sniper rifle to make it less accurate, and fired warning shots to scare away civilians before the chief had a chance to shoot them.

...

His lawyer, Phillip Stackhouse, said the charges were baseless. He said the only evidence that the chief had killed anyone came from accounts offered by a few SEALs who were disgruntled because they could not meet their leader�s demanding standards.

...

In May 2017, Iraqi forces captured an enemy fighter who had been wounded in an airstrike. Video images show the bleeding fighter, who was thought to be between 12 and 17, being brought to the SEAL platoon on the hood of a truck, and Chief Gallagher and others cutting away his clothing to give medical aid.

Photos of the fighter viewed by The New York Times appeared to show that medics had put tubes used to treat a collapsed lung in his side and cut an emergency airway in his throat.

Navy investigators said that one SEAL medic was kneeling over the fighter�s head, treating him, when Chief Gallagher walked up and, without saying a word, took out a handmade knife and stabbed the teenager several times in the neck and side.

Investigators said two other SEALs gave similar accounts.

Members of the platoon then posed for photos with Chief Gallagher as he held the teenager�s head up by the hair with one hand, and held his knife in the other. Photos show Chief Gallagher then raising his right hand to perform a re-enlistment ceremony over the dead body, while another SEAL member holds an American flag.

Soon after the episode, investigators said, Chief Gallagher texted a photo of the body to a fellow SEAL member with the message, �I got him with my hunting knife.�

...

Investigators say several SEALs in the platoon spoke to commanders about the episode, but that no action was taken. Some of them reported it to higher leadership in December 2017, and again in April, when a criminal investigation was opened.

In September, when the Navy became aware of what prosecutors said were efforts by the chief to intimidate witnesses, he was arrested and put in pretrial confinement.

In the hearing Thursday, a Navy prosecutor, Chris Czaplak, said the chief had done damage beyond murder.

�Does the public still believe we are the good guys, because Chief Gallagher decided to act like the monster the terrorists accuse us of being?� he said. �He handed ISIS propaganda manna from heaven. His actions are everything ISIS says we are.�

# ? Nov 16, 2018 15:22

orange juche: Mar 14, 2012

mlmp08 posted:

SEALs make the news again

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/15/us/navy-seal-edward-gallagher-isis.html#click=https://t.co/iMr2VKnD0f

SEALs loving suck, hth

# ? Nov 16, 2018 15:24

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

Reading about the Camp Fire right now. God drat.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 15:54

Vasudus: May 30, 2003

how could george soros' ion cannon do that to poor california

# ? Nov 16, 2018 15:57

US Berder Patrol: Jul 11, 2006; oorah

posted:

His lawyer, Phillip Stackhouse, said the charges were baseless. He said the only evidence that the chief had killed anyone came from accounts offered by a few SEALs who were disgruntled because they could not meet their leader�s demanding standards.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 16:00

Syrian Lannister: Aug 25, 2007; Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.; Sugartime Jones

In good news, Neo-Nazi's have no first amendment rights coverage to harrass

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/15/us/daily-stormer-anti-semitic-lawsuit.html

# ? Nov 16, 2018 16:07

Bored As Fuck: Jan 1, 2006; Fun Shoe

Syrian Lannister posted:

In good news, Neo-Nazi's have no first amendment rights coverage to harrass

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/15/us/daily-stormer-anti-semitic-lawsuit.html

Its behind a paywall, can you copy and paste it?

# ? Nov 16, 2018 16:29

Nick Soapdish: Apr 27, 2008

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/1063408845723131904

Since we won't do anything about weapon availability, guess every student, teacher, and staff should just carry a one-handed tourniquet like being in-country

# ? Nov 16, 2018 16:38

Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

White House has to give Acosta back his press pass while the lawsuit goes forward :laugh:

# ? Nov 16, 2018 16:40

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/1063408845723131904

Since we won't do anything about weapon availability, guess every student, teacher, and staff should just carry a one-handed tourniquet like being in-country

Are we really at the point where we are teaching children how to use a loving CAT? loving Christ I hate this goddamn country some times.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 16:43

Nostalgia4Butts: Jun 1, 2006; WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Casimir Radon posted:

White House has to give Acosta back his press pass while the lawsuit goes forward

love it

# ? Nov 16, 2018 16:46

Loden Taylor: Aug 11, 2003

mlmp08 posted:

SEALs make the news again

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/15/us/navy-seal-edward-gallagher-isis.html#click=https://t.co/iMr2VKnD0f

Oh hey, I remember Shim talking about this during one of his "gently caress SEALs" rants.

Or it was a completely different SEAL re-enlistment ceremony while on an objective surrounded by dead bodies. I assume there have been a bunch of them.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 16:50

Syrian Lannister: Aug 25, 2007; Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.; Sugartime Jones

Bored As gently caress posted:

Its behind a paywall, can you copy and paste it?

quote:

A lawsuit accusing the publisher of the neo-Nazi site Daily Stormer of coordinating a �terror campaign� of online harassment against a Jewish real estate agent cannot be dismissed on First Amendment grounds, a federal judge in Montana ruled this week.

In his ruling denying a motion to dismiss the lawsuit, Dana L. Christensen, the chief judge for United States District Court in Missoula, Mont., wrote that the real estate agent, Tanya Gersh, was a private citizen, not a public figure, and that the publisher, Andrew Anglin, incited his followers to harass her as part of a personal campaign.

The events that spurred the lawsuit began in the fall of 2016, when The Daily Stormer published a series of articles attacking Ms. Gersh, of Whitefish, Mont., for her interactions with Sherry Spencer, the mother of the white supremacist leader Richard Spencer.

Ms. Spencer owned a building in Whitefish and Ms. Gersh had talked to her about its potential sale after word circulated that residents were considering a protest there against white supremacy.

The call to protest was spurred by video of Mr. Spencer, who resided part time in Whitefish, railing against Jews and shouting �Hail Trump! Hail our people!� at an alt-right meeting in Washington, according to the suit.

The suit contends that Ms. Gersh counseled Ms. Spencer to sell the building and repudiate her son�s views. And initially, Ms. Spencer agreed, it says, even asking Ms. Gersh to represent her in such a sale.

Then Ms. Spencer reversed course, and published a blog post on Medium, charging that Ms. Gersh had tried to threaten and extort her to sell the building and break with her son. Mr. Anglin then began writing and publishing his own articles calling for �a troll storm� against Ms. Gersh.

�Tell them you are sickened by their Jew agenda to attack and harm the mother of someone whom they disagree with,� he wrote, according to the suit.

In the months that followed, the site published over 30 related posts � and the phone numbers, email addresses and social media profiles of Ms. Gersh, her husband and 12-year-old son, as well as friends and colleagues, the suit states.

By the spring of 2017, the family had received more than 700 vulgar and hateful messages, including death threats, many referencing the Holocaust. Some phone messages consisted solely of the sound of gunshots.

The Southern Poverty Law Center filed the lawsuit on Ms. Gersh�s behalf in April 2017. Mr. Anglin sought to have it dismissed, and a magistrate judge, Jeremiah C. Lynch, ruled against him in May. Mr. Anglin filed objections to that ruling, which sent the case to Judge Christensen for additional review.

David Dinielli, a lawyer for the law center, said in a statement that Judge Christensen�s ruling on Wednesday �underscores what both we and our client have said from the beginning of this case � that online campaigns of hate, threats, and intimidation have no place in a civil society, and enjoy no protection under our Constitution.�

In a phone interview, Mr. Dinielli said that the Gersh family had notified law enforcement of the harassment, but there have been no criminal charges.

The organization now expects the civil case to go to trial. It has taken a long time because it proved impossible to serve Mr. Anglin with legal papers, Mr. Dinielli said. Mr. Anglin�s last known address was in Ohio, but his whereabouts have been unknown for nearly two years. He is still running the site, possibly from overseas.

His lawyer, Marc Randazza, said that Judge Christensen�s decision was dangerous for free speech.

�The rule we lay down for the Nazi applies equally to the civil rights activist,� Mr. Randazza said in a statement. �And that ruling, if it stands, is not going to be good for anyone who engages in common outrage culture. Maybe that�s a good thing, but I think not.�

The site has also faced two other lawsuits. Taylor Dumpson, the first black woman to serve as American University�s student government president, filed a suit in May. She became an online target after a real-life incident: nooses and hateful messages left on campus a day after her inauguration. The suit was filed by the Lawyers� Committee for Civil Rights Under Law.

Dean Obeidallah, a Muslim comedian and radio host, filed a defamation lawsuit in August 2017 after the site falsely accused him of masterminding the deadly bombing of an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England, last year.

Mr. Anglin never responded, and Mr. Obeidallah said his lawyers were preparing to file paperwork for a default judgment.

�I don�t expect us to collect any money,� he said by email. �But if we did collect any money from Anglin I would donate it all to organizations that fight bigotry and racism.�

The site was booted from Google and GoDaddy web hosting services after it posted an article mocking Heather D. Heyer, the woman killed in an attack on counterprotesters at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Va., last year.

It then bounced around the globe with different web domains, and is currently online with the domain name �.name.� There have also been reports that Mr. Anglin is using crypto-currency to fund the site.

�He should be assured that if we end up with a judgment, we will go to the ends of the earth to collect, so that he doesn�t do this again and can no longer publish,� Mr. Dinielli said.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 16:51

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

Casimir Radon posted:

White House has to give Acosta back his press pass while the lawsuit goes forward

Oh, a the judge who told the White House to get hosed? A Trump appointee.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 16:53

M_Gargantua: Oct 16, 2006; STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES; Exciting Lemon

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/1063408845723131904

Since we won't do anything about weapon availability, guess every student, teacher, and staff should just carry a one-handed tourniquet like being in-country

an IFAK for every child

# ? Nov 16, 2018 17:17

M_Gargantua: Oct 16, 2006; STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES; Exciting Lemon

UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:

Are we really at the point where we are teaching children how to use a loving CAT? loving Christ I hate this goddamn country some times.

On the one hand gently caress this country

On the other hand basic first aid and trauma response should be taught in schools to begin with. Same with fire response. So its right for the wrong reasons.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 17:19

Nick Soapdish: Apr 27, 2008

M_Gargantua posted:

On the one hand gently caress this country

On the other hand basic first aid and trauma response should be taught in schools to begin with. Same with fire response. So its right for the wrong reasons.

I realize this varies drastically from locale but, do they still do a Life Skills class in Middle School that included how to do basic cooking, how to sew to fix socks, and other basic things (we also had how to balance a checkbook but who does that anymore).

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# ? Nov 16, 2018 17:30

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

Sew socks.

Darn socks needing to be sewn.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 17:35

GoGoGadget: Apr 29, 2006

Nick Soapdish posted:

I realize this varies drastically from locale but, do they still do a Life Skills class in Middle School that included how to do basic cooking, how to sew to fix socks, and other basic things (we also had how to balance a checkbook but who does that anymore).

Doubt it. I graduated HS in 2005 and all we did was the checkbook stuff.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 17:47

Vasudus: May 30, 2003

Life Skills aren't on any standardized tests that determine school funding, so no.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 17:48

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

I learned to stick a condom on a banana in middle school and I didn�t have a kid (that I know of) until I was 33.

The system works I guess.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 17:51

Professor Bling: Nov 12, 2008; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Vasudus posted:

Life Skills aren't on any standardized tests that determine school funding, so no.

Thus. We got checkbook balancing but none of this "life skills" stuff aside from Home Ec classes (and good luck getting into those while being a dude; my school would literally transfer the guys into woodshop "because [they] don't need to know housework").

Right move, wrong reason, sure, but everyone should have basic first aid knowledge.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 17:54

Proud Christian Mom: Dec 20, 2006; READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

its a subforum full of enlisted, the education system failed horribly

# ? Nov 16, 2018 17:56

Slim Pickens: Jan 12, 2007; Grimey Drawer

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/1063408845723131904

Since we won't do anything about weapon availability, guess every student, teacher, and staff should just carry a one-handed tourniquet like being in-country

Why stop at combat lifesaver training? Every child an infantryman

# ? Nov 16, 2018 17:56

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

Nelson is hosed in Florida, all hail Senator Voldemort

https://twitter.com/pemalevy/status/1063423632360304640?s=19

# ? Nov 16, 2018 17:58

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

facialimpediment posted:

Nelson is hosed in Florida, all hail Senator Voldemort

https://twitter.com/pemalevy/status/1063423632360304640?s=19

Not noticing a ballot line seems pretty Florida though.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 18:00

Acebuckeye13: Nov 2, 2010; Against All Tyrants; Ultra Carp

Slim Pickens posted:

Why stop at combat lifesaver training? Every child an infantryman

Any American who can't field-strip their own lasgun by age ten was born in the wrong country.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 18:04

Wasabi the J: Jan 23, 2008; MOM WAS RIGHT

Slim Pickens posted:

Why stop at combat lifesaver training? Every child an infantryman

In a dark way that was how we got socialist poo poo like school lunches and vaccines.

Enlisted kids were too scrawny, military told them to beef them up.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 18:09

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

My high school made every freshman take a �Health and Wellness� semester that covered everything from nutrition to safe(er) sex to ball/breast self exams to CPR and basic first aid.

This was in an area I�d call �very conservative but not hog wild crazy conservative.�

# ? Nov 16, 2018 18:10

InAndOutBrennan: Dec 11, 2008

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Any American who can't field-strip their own lasgun by age ten was born in the wrong country.

God Emperor Trump will light the way.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 18:13

Immanentized: Mar 17, 2009

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Any American who can't field-strip their own lasgun by age ten was born in the wrong country.

The country broke before the gun rights did.

Immanentized fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Nov 16, 2018

# ? Nov 16, 2018 18:46

Brute Squad: Dec 20, 2006; Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

LingcodKilla posted:

Sew socks.

Darn socks needing to be sewn.

I appreciate you.

Also this is becoming a good joke.

https://twitter.com/aidachavez/status/1063193038254682113

# ? Nov 16, 2018 18:48

Internet Wizard: Aug 9, 2009; BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

Loden Taylor posted:

Oh hey, I remember Shim talking about this during one of his "gently caress SEALs" rants.

Or it was a completely different SEAL re-enlistment ceremony while on an objective surrounded by dead bodies. I assume there have been a bunch of them.

Shim�s rants about SEAL war crimes predate this by a few years. SEALs are scum and Team Six is a frat house of war criminals.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 19:14

Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

Shim ranted about stuff that the media didn't start talking about for at least a couple of years.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 19:23

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# ? Jun 1, 2024 04:56

Internet Wizard: Aug 9, 2009; BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

Casimir Radon posted:

Shim ranted about stuff that the media didn't start talking about for at least a couple of years.

This specific event happened in 2017 but you do make a good point.

# ? Nov 16, 2018 19:24

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