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DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
The PSP Go owned

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BisterdDave
Apr 21, 2004

Slitzweitz!

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Lmfao turn in your physical disc for a digital license we're gonna turn off one day ok will do thanks

The physical disc is essentially a digital license nowadays anyways.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Yeah but at least you can get like 20 bucks or more off of it depending on when and if you get bored or hate a game.

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


BisterdDave posted:

Alright ya'll, I rented BLOPS4 for the weekend. Anyone planning on playing, I wouldn't mind teaming up with some goons. GT bisterdave, EST

By the way, the disc has a 188MB install while the network is 52GB? Are we really at the point where the disc is only for authentication and has no real data on it? As much as I love collecting physical games, this is pointless. Just do away with physical media if that's how it's going to go.

I think we may be friends anyway but I'll play with you anytime. Shoot me an invite, gt is Ineffiablefx

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.
Updated the OP to point out that Sunset Overdrive is getting a release on the Windows 10 store and steam.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Lmfao turn in your physical disc for a digital license we're gonna turn off one day ok will do thanks

Bruh when they turn off the service you're just going to pirate though? Like it'll be easy and no consequences by then if the 360's online support is anything to go by. It's not like having a lovely piece of plastic that never held the full game matters.


Intel&Sebastian posted:

Yeah but at least you can get like 20 bucks or more off of it depending on when and if you get bored or hate a game.

Nobody's going to pay $20 for some rando Xbone disc in 2035

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
If you kept the disc to 2035 that means you liked it enough to keep or didn't care.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

I never keep single-player based games after I beat them and do a handful of side poo poo until I'm bored (which is pretty quick). I don't even keep the CoD games for longer than a few months and flip them for $25-30. Physical rules as I'm not forced to keep a depreciating "asset" I'm no longer using, and get some money back to put into another time sink.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Digital appeals to me because I don't want a bunch of bright green cases cluttering up my living space. I don't have to leave my place in the dead of winter, fight Chicago traffic, get home and install it.

With digital I just bust out my phone at work, buy the game, and it's ready to roll by the time I step off the train.

I haven't bothered to trade any games in since 2012 or so. If I do have discs I don't want I give them to friends or my nephews.

It also helps that digital sales have been quite robust over the last two or three years.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




My favorite is when it says that a disc drive will save 100 dollars on the price.

BrownieVK
Nov 10, 2009

Eat my ass

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Lol you were sitting and watching the whole game everytime you died?

No I'm not stupid it takes more than 30 seconds to join a new blackout match though. Maybe I'm getting old but this game type isn't for me. I'm going to try the regular multiplayer today but so far I'm not impressed at all.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
If I really had a problem with green boxes cluttering stuff up I'd just go 1999 style and have a big rear end disc binder. That poo poo is the coolest.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Real hurthling! posted:

My favorite is when it says that a disc drive will save 100 dollars on the price.

Doesn't everybody but Nintendo lose money when you a buy a console? Is this microsoft trying to lock more people into their ecosystem for when the new stuff hits around 2020?

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

I buy physical for the box

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Blackout really is a near-completely different type of game played via COD, it's wild that it works as good as it does.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Ruffian Price posted:

I buy physical for the box

The only thing I miss about everything going digital are the old thick Blizzard manuals with a complete bestiary and bad Chris Metzen fanart.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

exquisite tea posted:

The only thing I miss about everything going digital are the old thick Blizzard manuals with a complete bestiary and bad Chris Metzen fanart.

Those dont exist physical anymore either. All you get now is a case made of plastic pressed to the thinnest it can be while still capable of supporting the weight of a single disc.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Beastie posted:

Doesn't everybody but Nintendo lose money when you a buy a console? Is this microsoft trying to lock more people into their ecosystem for when the new stuff hits around 2020?

Im interested to see if general consumers will actually get locked into an ecosystem that has refocused itself around digital rentals and being hardware agnostic, or if they will treat xbox as something they buy a month of here or there.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Beastie posted:

Doesn't everybody but Nintendo lose money when you a buy a console? Is this microsoft trying to lock more people into their ecosystem for when the new stuff hits around 2020?

That's usually the case at launch but the boxes eventually get cheap enough to build that the price exceeds the BOM. MS killed the original Xbox pretty early because their agreement with Nvidia hosed with that.

This time around I think MS and Sony actually targeted profitable MSRP boxes either right out the gate or very soon after, hence the trash CPUs in both.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Beastie posted:

Doesn't everybody but Nintendo lose money when you a buy a console? Is this microsoft trying to lock more people into their ecosystem for when the new stuff hits around 2020?

You're thinking of when a console launches. By the time the console's been around a number of years and had a cost-reduction redesign or two in place, they're also making money on the consoles.

That discless system looks like it'll be a repackaged S without the optical drive so it's easy to see where they can drop the price by $100 and still come out ahead on the sale.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Barudak posted:

Those dont exist physical anymore either. All you get now is a case made of plastic pressed to the thinnest it can be while still capable of supporting the weight of a single disc.

RDR2 gave you a physical map, even in the basic edition, and there's a full, helpful manual accessible both in the game menu itself and available in a separate app. That seems like an acceptable compromise to me, except for the part where they have two discs on a single spindle knowing that the Xbox can be finicky about discs for their DRM.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
A new xbox one?

The fourth Xbox One console...

Is removing a disk going to save them millions in manufacturing costs? WHy bother when the console will be replaced in 2020... surely they have a ton of stock left for Xbone OG, Xbone S and Xbone X.

Red Warrior
Jul 23, 2002
Is about to die!

drunkill posted:

A new xbox one?

The fourth Xbox One console...

Is removing a disk going to save them millions in manufacturing costs? WHy bother when the console will be replaced in 2020... surely they have a ton of stock left for Xbone OG, Xbone S and Xbone X.

Well yeah at this point in the console lifecycle it's all about making the most of those margins, and there's a couple of years to get people into the system, subscribed to gamepass and Live and make money off them while they become 'invested in the Xbox family' or however the corporate types would put it.

If you can take the big spinning laser thing out of the console you can increase those margins even higher while making the system cheaper.

I could see the cost reduced S actually settling in at the $200 price point at this stage, we're at the point in the cycle that generally happens, and this discless one ending up at $150 or less.

Edit: Also no they don't have a lot of stock sitting around, everything now is built in the factories, shipped straight to stores to get sold, no-one wants to be paying to keep stuff sitting around in warehouses.

Red Warrior fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Nov 16, 2018

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

drunkill posted:

A new xbox one?

The fourth Xbox One console...

Is removing a disk going to save them millions in manufacturing costs? WHy bother when the console will be replaced in 2020... surely they have a ton of stock left for Xbone OG, Xbone S and Xbone X.

I'm not sure about the OG Xbone. I'm sure there are lots of new available online but I haven't seen them stocked new in physical stores in a while. Although it's possible MS has a big ol ET-esque pile of them somewhere I suppose.

heehee
Sep 5, 2012

haha wow i cant believe how lucky we got to win :D
A pure digital console could be the size of a cup of coffee, a credit card perhaps,

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
The original Xbox One models are officially discontinued since the Xbox One X came out. They only manufacture the S and X these days.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

fishmech posted:

The original Xbox One models are officially discontinued since the Xbox One X came out. They only manufacture the S and X these days.

Yes but they never really sold all that well so in theory there'd be a lot of stock still sitting around somewhere, right? I mean I can't imagine they undermanufactured expecting it to flip or anything.

heehee
Sep 5, 2012

haha wow i cant believe how lucky we got to win :D
they melted the case plastic and re-used it, same with the innards

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

DrNutt posted:

Yes but they never really sold all that well so in theory there'd be a lot of stock still sitting around somewhere, right? I mean I can't imagine they undermanufactured expecting it to flip or anything.

There are probably a few units here and there but there likely isn't some huge unsold stock of them. It's not hard to build more-or-less to your sellthrough nowadays.

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo

drunkill posted:

A new xbox one?

The fourth Xbox One console...

Is removing a disk going to save them millions in manufacturing costs? WHy bother when the console will be replaced in 2020... surely they have a ton of stock left for Xbone OG, Xbone S and Xbone X.
They want as many people as possible to adapt the "games as a service" way of thinking. If this thing is priced at under $150 and comes with a month or two of Gamepass they feel like they'll have a good shot at hooking people into their monthly infrastructure.

trash person
Apr 5, 2006

Baby Executive is pleased with your performance!
I would buy my next console at a subsidized price with the expectation that I have to sign up for game pass/psn now or whatever.

I’m the idiot who’s ok with streaming/all digital games

Barudak
May 7, 2007

trash person posted:

I would buy my next console at a subsidized price with the expectation that I have to sign up for game pass/psn now or whatever.

I’m the idiot who’s ok with streaming/all digital games

You can get a OneX that way right now.

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo

Barudak posted:

You can get a OneX that way right now.
That's not subsidized when you take into account recent sales though.

Zat
Jan 16, 2008

DrNutt posted:

RDR2 gave you a physical map, even in the basic edition, and there's a full, helpful manual accessible both in the game menu itself and available in a separate app. That seems like an acceptable compromise to me, except for the part where they have two discs on a single spindle knowing that the Xbox can be finicky about discs for their DRM.

To be fair, Blu-ray discs are incredibly scratch resistant, so multiple discs on a single spindle is even less of an issue than with DVDs.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
I bet the discless Xbone also drops the HDMI passthru

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.

TheScott2K posted:

I bet the discless Xbone also drops the HDMI passthru

I doubt that's a widely used feature, I'd expect them to cut it.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
Was the latest Tomb Raider worth getting?

trash person
Apr 5, 2006

Baby Executive is pleased with your performance!

Barudak posted:

You can get a OneX that way right now.

No I have one but like if the next console didn’t even have a disc slot or offered a ‘cheaper’ version without a disc slot that required a commitment to game pass or w/e I’d do it

Barudak
May 7, 2007

trash person posted:

No I have one but like if the next console didn’t even have a disc slot or offered a ‘cheaper’ version without a disc slot that required a commitment to game pass or w/e I’d do it

Oh, yeah, same probably. Ive not bought a physical copy in like 3 years and where Im moving doesnt even allow rentals.

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TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Twerk from Home posted:

I doubt that's a widely used feature, I'd expect them to cut it.

No HDMI input, no drive, and since no drive no need to pay for BluRay/DVD licensing either. That may not be $100 worth of savings but I dunno what their cost per unit is to begin with.

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