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StashAugustine posted:That said someone really needs to do an explicity marxist economic board game Not really a board game, but> https://www.old-games.com/download/4428/stalin-s-dilemma
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bob dobbs is dead posted:https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1510/class-struggle I was thinking doing a euro style thing where everyone plays factory owners doing a simplified economy where labor is a significant input and also tied to consumption of goods you produce, and as time goes on opportunities for expansion dry up so you have to cut labor costs which results in a crisis of overproduction. You cpuld probably make it work
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Nov 16, 2018 23:28
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chutes and ladders is basically capitalism: the game, too
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Nov 16, 2018 23:28
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monopoly but you beat up the winner and redistribute their monopoly money
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Nov 16, 2018 23:41
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StashAugustine posted:I was thinking doing a euro style thing where everyone plays factory owners doing a simplified economy where labor is a significant input and also tied to consumption of goods you produce, and as time goes on opportunities for expansion dry up so you have to cut labor costs which results in a crisis of overproduction. You cpuld probably make it work Mensch ärgere Dich nicht. Just like the stock exchange fueled economy, your success is decided entirely by a dice roll and there is no point at which you are in control of your fortune.
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Nov 16, 2018 23:46
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A truly marxist game would be a skirmish/wargame that's just a lowkey way to plan revolutionary actions
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Nov 17, 2018 00:00
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Warhammer But Communist
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MizPiz posted:A truly marxist game would be a skirmish/wargame that's just a lowkey way to plan revolutionary actions So, Mafia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(party_game)
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steinrokkan posted:So, Mafia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(party_game) No, I mean "Warhammer but one side represents you and your comrades and the other represents the potential hostiles"
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Warhammer doesnt seem to be a good model.
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steinrokkan posted:Warhammer doesnt seem to be a good model. you gotta play tau
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Wir Sind Das Volk! is a great one
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Nov 17, 2018 00:30
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Poniard posted:monopoly but you beat up the winner and redistribute their monopoly money I think that's basically how anti-monopoly works, a game I only know about because they were sued by Milton Bradley for the use of the name "monopoly", asserting that they had a monopoly on games called monopoly. MB lost iirc.
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please knock Mom! posted:Wir Sind Das Volk! is a great one Its extremely good and also introduced me to German punk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pvxOQIhdjC0
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Trying to give Monopoly a way to win without killing everybody else is sort of missing the point, though.
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I'm always the banker and I cheat like crazy and as far as I am concerned that is fine; the only true crime is getting caught. Monopoly is a hell game. You don't even do anything. The optimal strategy is buy every square you land on and then roll dice and hope you get good rolls. Moridin920 has issued a correction as of 01:31 on Nov 17, 2018 |
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Nov 17, 2018 01:29
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Moridin920 posted:I'm always the banker and I cheat like crazy and as far as I am concerned that is fine; the only true crime is making people play Monopoly 
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Moridin920 posted:I'm always the banker and I cheat like crazy and as far as I am concerned that is fine the only true crime is getting caught. No the optimal strategy is to pass on every property sending it directly to auction so you can either get it for cheap or cause someone to spend more money than it's worth. Also free parking is a houserule that everyone just uses and accepts as a real thing for some reason. Don't do that either.
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Nov 17, 2018 01:31
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Len posted:No the optimal strategy is to pass on every property sending it directly to auction so you can either get it for cheap or cause someone to spend more money than it's worth. Yeah then you get a douche like me who will bid up to the face value no matter what so in any case you're either paying what you would have or more than that. But even if you're right there's still nothing involved with that you just do the same thing every time and hope you get good rolls. But yeah free parking is fake news.
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Nov 17, 2018 01:36
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Land on free parking and refuse to roll any further. Homeless encampments of propertyless players are natural endpoint Monopoly.
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Nov 17, 2018 01:40
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A friend of mine wanted to play Monopoly a few months back and I agreed under the condition we played rules as written. It was a tight quick game and ended in under an hour. It's still not a good game but games actually end that way.
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Nov 17, 2018 01:42
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Outrail posted:Land on free parking and refuse to roll any further. Homeless encampments of propertyless players are natural endpoint Monopoly. then I break out the Risk pieces as I recruit and arm a People’s Army out of the homeless encampments. the last capitalist standing gets to sell me the rope
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Start with monopoly end with Cuba Libre
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Ya a truly Marxist game would start out settlers of catan, progress through monopoly and then end with the players murdering the winning player, discarding the game and instead realising a collaborative scientific or artistic project from which they all benefit.
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this thread has made me spend the past several hours figuring out a Late-Stage Monopoly where you play as captains of industry by virtue of inheriting your late fathers wealth. the last capitalist standing wins. there’s a bunch of nefarious poo poo you can do to each other. also if you draw the card where you realize the brutality of late stage capitalism you have to occupy Free Parking, immediately sell all your assets to the bank, and use the money to arm the homeless and poors who will form your People’s Army as they lay siege to the capitalist class, fighting both sides of the board all the way back to Go.
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Taintrunner posted:this thread has made me spend the past several hours figuring out a Late-Stage Monopoly where you play as captains of industry by virtue of inheriting your late fathers wealth. the last capitalist standing wins. there’s a bunch of nefarious poo poo you can do to each other. also if you draw the card where you realize the brutality of late stage capitalism you have to occupy Free Parking, immediately sell all your assets to the bank, and use the money to arm the homeless and poors who will form your People’s Army as they lay siege to the capitalist class, fighting both sides of the board all the way back to Go. I definitely think you could also just paint over vanilla monopoly to make it into late-stage capitalism monopoly. Just replace the different streets with various sectors of the economy so you'd have the three "consumer goods" spaces on the board, three "banking and finance" spaces, three "culture industry" spaces, etc. You could keep one set of spaces or even one side of the board for property still. Then instead of houses/hotels you'd collect more generic forms of capital like factories or intellectual property or trademarks or something.
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bike tory posted:I definitely think you could also just paint over vanilla monopoly to make it into late-stage capitalism monopoly. Just replace the different streets with various sectors of the economy so you'd have the three "consumer goods" spaces on the board, three "banking and finance" spaces, three "culture industry" spaces, etc. You could keep one set of spaces or even one side of the board for property still. Then instead of houses/hotels you'd collect more generic forms of capital like factories or intellectual property or trademarks or something. I hear you, but I also want poo poo like natural disasters i.e. Cali wildfires wiping entire sections off the board. Instead of jail it's a Senate corruption committee and you have to roll a dice to see how much you have to pay at the end of the turn - but you can also buy politician tokens for like $200 a pop or w/e that reduce your taxes or Senate committee payouts by 25% a-piece. If you see a fellow player's token about to get captured and killed by the revolutionary communist army you can offer to sell him an extraction by private military company. You can also corporate merger with a fellow player and pool your resources into one bucket, but also, only one capitalist can come out on top, so it's only ever a temporary alliance. Just like a lot of random crazy modifiers that basically force you to think like a real heartless motherfucker with complete contempt for humanity.
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bike tory posted:Ya a truly Marxist game would start out settlers of catan, progress through monopoly and then end with the players murdering the winning player, discarding the game and instead realising a collaborative scientific or artistic project from which they all benefit. Seen Spirit Island? It's about the natives of an island and their patron gods fighting back against invading colonists.
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Skellybones posted:Seen Spirit Island? It's about the natives of an island and their patron gods fighting back against invading colonists. looks decent https://youtu.be/aEpGN6jswPw
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StashAugustine posted:Start with monopoly end with Cuba Libre I would need multiple Cuba Libres to even consider starting a game of Monopoly.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/AristocratBags/status/1051344348300890118 i saw someone irl with one of these bags and did a double take at the name
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Skellybones posted:Seen Spirit Island? It's about the natives of an island and their patron gods fighting back against invading colonists. I cna confirm it's really fun. We haven't managed to lose yet, despite my friend always making the difficulty higher every time we play.
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got any sevens posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/AristocratBags/status/1051344348300890118 I hate poorly written slogans. Goddamn what does that mean. Your bags should be as light as your heart. Your bags should only be as heavy as your heart. Your bags should be no heavier than your heart. Try to come up with worse phrasing than theirs.
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I love slogans that make less sense the more you think about them. I honestly can't tell if they're trying to say their bags are light or heavy.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I cna confirm it's really fun. We haven't managed to lose yet, despite my friend always making the difficulty higher every time we play. We only played once and got wrecked. There were a few rule misreads though that contributed to that. It also probably didn't help one of us was the ocean and it was our first game
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Len posted:We only played once and got wrecked. There were a few rule misreads though that contributed to that. It also probably didn't help one of us was the ocean and it was our first game The dude who owns the game had played before and helped us out. Also we play a lot of boardgames so that comes with some system mastery. Hence my friend's opinion of "If we didn't lose, we didn't scale the difficulty high enough."
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fart store posted:I hate poorly written slogans. Goddamn what does that mean. When you die, the sins of your heart are weighed against the lightness if your bags.
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