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Teddybear posted:https://twitter.com/AP/status/1063556155174264832 Bummer. BUT! Georgia Goons remember that there will still be a runoff election on December 4! John Barrow is running for secretary of state, and needs every goddamn vote he can get.
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Prester Jane posted:Quote me where I have ever once urge people not to vote, stated that I wasn't going to vote, or intimated anything even vaguely like that in my entire posting career you disingenuous piece of poo poo. Once again I'm not talking about criticizing, I'm talking about the endless "Dems are a waste" refrain that maintains that manages to find some fatal flaw in literally every Democrat who gets elected. And while you may not personally urge people not to vote there are most certainly regular DAAW posters who do exactly that. If you are out doing what you can and you are voting for the best candidate every time then you aren't who I'm referring to. Now I remind you that the primary candidate that those who are opposed to Pelosi was the one who was against protecting LGBT people siding with known bad Dems including  supporter Manchin. So when you hold her and Pelosi up as your choices which one would you prefer to have setting the legislative agenda?That doesn't require one to think that she's the greatest bestest speaker ever, because she's the better choice of the two that are to offer. Josef bugman posted:Better than actively abetting it I suspect. I mean the ascension of Fascists has become a fait accompli because no-one in the opposition wants to oppose them on the grounds that their views are loving repugnant, merely that they are indecorous. Doing nothing when you can do something (voting for the Fascists political opponents) is abetting them. Voting 3rd party when you know that they have zero chance of winning is actively abetting them. Also if you believe that there aren't Democrats calling out Republicans for their repugnant views I'd say that you aren't paying attention. papa horny michael posted:Considering this is the largest amount of PoC, LGBT(et cet), and so on in offices nation-wide ever I'd say it's working out pretty well. Many of whom primaried entrenched Democratic politicians. So refusing to vote for people who are against specific issues works. No what worked was what those of us in the Dems are imperfect camp have been saying to do all along. Vote for better Democrats in the primaries and then vote for whoever happens to be the Democratic nominee in the general. That's how those gains were created. People got involved. They got active, they campaigned they phone banked they did the work and that work resulted in a historic victory. They didn't sit around on their asses bemoaning the fact that we've not gotten full communism now spontaneously occur. And the best strategy going forward is to continue to do the same. Continue to primary poo poo Dems, continue to elect Democrats and continue to ride their asses to do the right thing. Note how AOC highlighted the need for rapid action for climate change. Note that Pelosi was amenable to it. Do you think that a Republican would have been? No they wouldn't have been witnessed by the fact that it was the Republicans who killed that particular committee in the first place. My gripe isn't with people who criticize Democrats for either being wrong, bad or disinterested, my gripe is with those who spend all of their time making GBS threads on Democrats using the flimsiest of evidence like the fact that Pelosi as minority leader endorsed an incumbent Democrat which based on the fact that those critics have failed to respond to my query with any examples of incumbent Democrats that Pelosi didn't endorse was just a perfunctory you support you caucus because you are the leader level endorsement which they then use as a justification for "Pelosi bad" arguments. The ones who buy into and perpetuate Right Wing framing in a way that is demoralizing to the people who need to be motivated and hopeful. If you are just frustrated and venting I'm not directing my criticism at you, if you are voting and working to change things for the better I'm not directing my criticism at you. My criticism is directed at the usual crew of  accelerationists who offer nothing but complaints and smugness for being so pure in their ideology and unwillingness to compromise at all. The ones who punch at allies and repeat the lies and attacks of enemies.
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Skex posted:If you are just frustrated and venting I'm not directing my criticism at you, if you are voting and working to change things for the better I'm not directing my criticism at you. My criticism is directed at the usual crew of then maybe you shouldn't direct your endless scolding screeds at the people you specifically quoted. for a guy who thinks he's an "ally" all you do is post thousands of words at anyone who complains.
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God drat there's no difference at all between arguing with you and arguing with any Republican. It's all personal insults and accusations and then when called on to present evidence you deny you ever did what you just did and then accuse a bunch of unspecified others of being the people you were really accusing. gently caress you. Also just LOL at the idea that you're in a lie. All you do is punch left with basically every post you make. You have the audacity to accuse me of hurting minorities when I'm a loving disabled transwoman who's out on the front lines doing whatever she can to make life better for all of us. You're not an ally. Stop pretending otherwise. It's disrespectful to actual allies. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Prester Jane posted:You called me out specifically for not voting you disingenuous piece of poo poo. Quote me where I have ever done anything you accused me of or retract it. I'm done with this nonsense. This is really negative vibes try to be nicer
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The Dragon of Budapest slumbered, but now he has awoken.
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areyoucontagious posted:I’m sure this got posted already, but: If denying climate change is what it takes to get funding for large-scale thinning of national forests then that's a silver lining at least The real problem with our forest management in California is a century of fire suppression (when normally fire comes through every few decades to clear out all the fuel in a low or moderate severity burn). There's no easy solution at this point because re-introducing fire into the system causes the megafires we're seeing right now. I've seen this take a few times now where Trump says "it's not climate change it's bad forest management" and the kneejerk reaction on the left is "actually it's 100% climate change" when in reality it's a combination of bad forest management (part unforced errors and part due to lack of funding) and climate change
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quote:TURKEY LEAKS PHOTOS OF JAMAL KHASHOGGI’S DISMEMBERMENT BY SAUDI AUTHORITIES welp i could have done without seeing that
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Party Plane Jones posted:welp i could have done without seeing that Yeaaaa for everyone else. Don't look at those photos. It's pretty bad. Turkey has KSA by the balls with those.
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Skex posted:unintelligible brain worms lol your purity politics about full communism now to people who are agitating specific policy and candidate changes. i'm glad you're here to tell us what it is, chief! your gripe seemingly is to assign non-existent platforms to people who ask you what you're on about.
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cheetah7071 posted:If denying climate change is what it takes to get funding for large-scale thinning of national forests then that's a silver lining at least i think part of that reaction is also that he's almost always blaming the state of California in particular because to do otherwise would be to admit there's uh... a little bit of  federal lands in california where the US government bears responsibility for the mismanagement
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Dapper_Swindler posted:how the gently caress did he get past the screening. like yeah gently caress the cult of the operator and filled with chud types and all that, but usually these dudes get found out and drummed out pretty quick. the military doesn't like its human weapons go batshit. It's more that you spend years training people to be incredibly violent and then under the conditions of war people either become hosed up as a result (which I've seen) or it uncovers a horrible side they've been keeping from the organisation or themselves. Not at all minimising the terrible things it sounds like this guy did but it's not easy to screen for how people are going to behave, and they are trying to identify people that are extremely violent under specific conditions.
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Ague Proof posted:https://twitter.com/ScottGuitars/status/1063558984651689984 I already knew the mechanisms off the top of my head, and it took literally less than ten seconds to find the exact numbers.
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Skex posted:Doing nothing when you can do something (voting for the Fascists political opponents) is abetting them. Voting 3rd party when you know that they have zero chance of winning is actively abetting them. I am in the UK I get to vote with my loving conscience clear by voting Labour, but to say "Well if you don't like it you are killing people" doesn't matter to most people who will go "but you don't do anything for me, why should I give a poo poo" because that is all they expect from people who treat politics as a way of making money in your loving capitalist hellscape of a country. I never said there aren't, but those people aren't saying that bi-partisanship is needed you disingenuous sack of poo poo.
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eke out posted:i think part of that reaction is also that he's almost always blaming the state of California in particular because to do otherwise would be to admit there's uh... a little bit of Yeah there's a shitton of federal land in the western US Getting the various stakeholders (private, state, federal, and tribal) to even agree to a broad outline of how to manage their forests is like herding cats, much less actually implementing any of it
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Josef bugman posted:I am in the UK I get to vote with my loving conscience clear by voting Labour am i misunderstanding this or are you implying that you have a clear conscience because you have the opportunity to vote for labour? if so: lol
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what is lol about that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzuKaTuk_lw
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Rigel posted:OK, counting only Americans, how many of you did not know this? Raises hand Legit did not know this. Always knew he was a hitter, and I'm sure this has been revealed to me in a trivia game at some point. Sandlot aside, baseball sucks tho, so I'm not the best gauge of common baseball knowledge.
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eke out posted:am i misunderstanding this or are you implying that you have a clear conscience because you have the opportunity to vote for labour? if so: lol As in, I have a clearer one than voting Democrat. At least my guy is going to be supporting thing like increased workers rights, expansion of Green energy and the removal of big monied interests in large sections without having to be continually screamed at. Also in this instance it was referring to the problem of "lol voting 3rd party". Because I know that, bare minimum, Labour is probably going to oppose the government.
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Groovelord Neato posted:what is lol about that. the last twenty years of the labour party
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eke out posted:the last twenty years of the labour party So the last 20 years of the democrats as well?
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Josef bugman posted:So the last 20 years of the democrats as well? ain't none of us claiming we have a clear conscience lol Groovelord Neato posted:eke out did you miss the last general election over there or... as much as i'd look forward to minority leader bernie sanders, i don't think that'd exculpate the democratic party any more than jezza makes up for blair
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Chilichimp posted:Raises hand Ruth was one of the best pitchers of his time. In fact, he still held pitching records for years after he died. He'd have made the Hall of Fame as a hitter or pitcher, but if he had stayed a pitcher he would never have been the American icon he is now. :themoreyouknow:
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Hoggs rule https://mobile.twitter.com/davidhogg111/status/1063535481609170944
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eke out posted:as much as i'd look forward to minority leader bernie sanders, i don't think that'd exculpate the democratic party any more than jezza makes up for blair Well it's a good thing I couldn't vote in anything prior to the 2010 election isn't it mate. I feel fairly okay that I have voted in the best/most morale manner instead of "holding my nose" voting. That is what I meant on that score. And if you don't have a clear conscience about your voting, or at the very least didn't at the time, what the gently caress are you good for?
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Party Plane Jones posted:welp i could have done without seeing that Uh, where did it go? You didn't mod-delete it, did you?
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How many Republicans will vote against this? https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeMyGod/status/1063557854521479169 quote:Democrats want to change a rule banning House members from wearing hats on the chamber floor to accommodate the first Muslim women to ever be elected to Congress — one of whom wears a headscarf. House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, Democrat Rep. Jim McGovern, and congresswoman-elect Ilhan Omar of Minnesota are the co-authors of the proposal, which was included as part of a slate of rule changes that Democrats will seek to implement once they assume control.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Big Coat playing the long game New thread subtitle right here
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:How many Republicans will vote against this? why carve out an exemption for religious headwear instead of just allowing all hats
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knox_harrington posted:It's more that you spend years training people to be incredibly violent and then under the conditions of war people either become hosed up as a result (which I've seen) or it uncovers a horrible side they've been keeping from the organisation or themselves. yeah, its horrible poo poo in general. i just assumed they would have caught this dude earlier.
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This should be good: NBC News is also reporting that she has testified before the SSCI and also "wants to speak to Mueller".
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enraged_camel posted:This should be good: Seems like there's a lot of dangers involved in pleading guilty, namely being murdered by Russian agents.
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