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T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

EvilGenius posted:

I'd much rather buy an original console than a mobile processor running an emulator that just happens to be inside a case that looks similar to the original.

I know 99% of people won't know the difference, but there's something about knowing that what you're seeing and hearing is all being generated by 80s circuits and processors rather than in software.

Somewhere in gay heaven Alan Turing is snickering at you.

(gay heaven is christian hell)

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IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Antioch posted:

I'm going to see the Backstreet Boys concert next summer. I got sent an email that was like "Hey, you get a free copy of the new album for each ticket you bought, click here". So I did, thinking it'll be a download code or something.

Nope, they're sending me 4 physical CDs. I don't think I have a way to play CDs any more. No DVD/Bluray player in the house, haven't had a disc drive in my PC for years, laptop doesn't have one, car has just Bluetooth and Aux In.

What the hell am I supposed to do with a CD?

I got the same when I went to a Deftones concert. Incubus was opening for them, so I got their latest (half) album. I'm not sure why they do this, because if you're going to a concert, the chances are high that you have their latest stuff. I didn't, so whatever, and I still buy CDs and rip them, but it seems like you either have your case, or you're sending stuff to people who already have the album.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas
I just saw an image thread in GBS with a '56k no' warning. Are there people out there still in 56k? Is the modern internet even possible on 56k?

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


IUG posted:

I got the same when I went to a Deftones concert. Incubus was opening for them, so I got their latest (half) album. I'm not sure why they do this, because if you're going to a concert, the chances are high that you have their latest stuff. I didn't, so whatever, and I still buy CDs and rip them, but it seems like you either have your case, or you're sending stuff to people who already have the album.

Probably all just a way to skim more money or inflate sales numbers or something. Like how all the chud book authors/publishers game the bestseller lists.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Antioch posted:

I'm going to see the Backstreet Boys concert next summer. I got sent an email that was like "Hey, you get a free copy of the new album for each ticket you bought, click here". So I did, thinking it'll be a download code or something.

Nope, they're sending me 4 physical CDs. I don't think I have a way to play CDs any more. No DVD/Bluray player in the house, haven't had a disc drive in my PC for years, laptop doesn't have one, car has just Bluetooth and Aux In.

What the hell am I supposed to do with a CD?

My wife got that for a P!nk concert she bought 4 tickets to. She already had the digital album and doesn't even use that since it's easier to stream.

It makes no sense.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

ReidRansom posted:

Probably all just a way to skim more money or inflate sales numbers or something. Like how all the chud book authors/publishers game the bestseller lists.

Or they got a bunch of CDs pressed then suddenly realised none of their fans are buying them so they might as well give them away

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


Antioch posted:

I'm going to see the Backstreet Boys concert next summer. I got sent an email that was like "Hey, you get a free copy of the new album for each ticket you bought, click here". So I did, thinking it'll be a download code or something.

Nope, they're sending me 4 physical CDs. I don't think I have a way to play CDs any more. No DVD/Bluray player in the house, haven't had a disc drive in my PC for years, laptop doesn't have one, car has just Bluetooth and Aux In.

What the hell am I supposed to do with a CD?

Display them and/or rip them with a USB optical drive.

On the other hand, if you're going to the concert you're already a borderline superfan and they assume you have the tracks on Apple Lossless or something anyway; the fact that the CD works is just to meet the convention that something that looks and feels like the CD version of an album will behave like it.

ReidRansom posted:

Probably all just a way to skim more money or inflate sales numbers or something. Like how all the chud book authors/publishers game the bestseller lists.

Danger - Octopus! posted:

Or they got a bunch of CDs pressed then suddenly realised none of their fans are buying them so they might as well give them away

Or these, yes.

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DrChu
May 14, 2002

I'm not sure if it still works this way, but it used to be that those tickets that included an album counted as an album sale, so all those old artists that could draw crowds would have albums on the charts despite no airplay or people buying them in stores.

http://www.mtv.com/news/1488027/billboard-sours-on-princes-musicology-sales-experiment/

Edit: here's a more recent article, it's still a thing - https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8030253/concert-ticket-bundles-chart-boost-metallica-taylor-swift-kenny-chesney

quote:

In October, P!nk's new album, Beautiful Trauma, debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard 200, with two-thirds of her 384,000 albums sold tied to ticket sales, while about 80,000 of the 134,000 copies of Shania Twain's Now album sold in its first week came from ticket bundling, according to Nielsen Music. Katy Perry, Arcade Fire and The Chainsmokers all topped the chart with bundles, too.

DrChu has a new favorite as of 01:27 on Nov 17, 2018

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


EvilGenius posted:

I just saw an image thread in GBS with a '56k no' warning. Are there people out there still in 56k? Is the modern internet even possible on 56k?

Some places the cell phones still get stuck on EDGE or low-quality UMTS/EVDO, which has better throughput than dial-up once it gets going but comparable-to-worse latency.

So yeah, browsing can still be that bad. At least on mobile they have mobile sites (and if you're tethering your desktop browser probably has an F12 tool to fake it). Even then, though, most modern mobile sites are made for relatively recent smartphones, so they can only help so much.

Pilsner
Nov 23, 2002

Vic posted:

All these mini releases of old computers/consoles are hilarious and I can't figure out why people pay for that.

I wouldn't say they're silly really, nostalgia is strong and buying an actual old console with games will cost ten times as much, and with no benefits of emulation such as save states. One thing I've been enjoying greatly lately are old Gameboy, NES and SNES games emulated on the Nintendo 3DS (I actually bought it for my son, but I've been the one playing it the most :P ). They cost just a few bucks per game, and some games like the old Zelda games truly great games, and there's just something so awesome about playing Zelda LTTP on a small hand-held, portable console. Re-playing Link's Awakening was just nostalgia overload. Right now I'm playing through the Super Mario Land series.

EvilGenius posted:

I just saw an image thread in GBS with a '56k no' warning. Are there people out there still in 56k? Is the modern internet even possible on 56k?

Obsolete and failed: SA megathreads that were started in 2008.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Vic posted:

All these mini releases of old computers/consoles are hilarious and I can't figure out why people pay for that.
Because now that they can monetize old games again they're going after ROM sites to make it harder to play the games without these devices?

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

EvilGenius posted:

I just saw an image thread in GBS with a '56k no' warning. Are there people out there still in 56k? Is the modern internet even possible on 56k?

Every year there are clickbait articles where the author is trying to figure out how AOL still has around 2 million dialup subscribers and/or if dialup AOL is usable in the current era.

The answers are old people and not really unless all you do is send and receive plain text emails.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Are any of those 2 million subscribers actually connecting by modem or are they just keeping the service running so they can have an excuse to keep billing them?

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

Pilsner posted:

Obsolete and failed: SA megathreads that were started in 2008.

Isn't the Legends of Galactic Heroes thread almost as old as ADRTW? Last I checked it was the longest running megathread on the forums.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
I was almost expecting the controversy over the PSClassic was that it was going to turn out to be a PSTV in a new case with a Vita game card containing the 20 games.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
If they'd only have made the Playstation Classic with just a few more classic games and a scanline display feature it would've satisfied at least 90% of the vocal nerds and cost almost exactly the same amount of money. It's the general lazyness that's so despicable, not the specific nonsense.

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

The mini ps1 is dumb because it misses the real nostalgic moments of that console like sitting it upside down because the laser mechanism is hosed or when your friends old roommate 'Steve' installed a modchip for a few beers.

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
We have no reason to believe his name wasn't actually Steve.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
https://twitter.com/CriticalHitNet/status/1063379856468205569

quote:

Q: Can’t I just buy a Raspberry Pi, an enclosure, gamepad, keyboard, and mouse, 3D print a faceplate, install Armbian, buy 30+ games, build the source for ARM or install/configure in DOSBox for each and every game, create a menu system with game art, and tell everyone about it at parties?

No.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Or you could just direct your browser to archive.org and start playing games.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

EvilGenius posted:

I just saw an image thread in GBS with a '56k no' warning. Are there people out there still in 56k? Is the modern internet even possible on 56k?

Probably not, but I do think the bandwidth-friendly thread isn't obsolete because of mobile users. I stopped reading the Game of Thrones threads because pricks insisted on posting as much as a loving gigabyte of animated meme GIFs on the same page and going "hurr, get a real internet" when you complained.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

I hate how animated GIFs are still a thing people make when browsers have supported real video formats for a while. On my phone I just browse SA with GIFs turned off in the Awful App but even on my desktop with my fast nternet connection they take longer to load and look worse than a proper video.

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

DrChu posted:

I'm not sure if it still works this way, but it used to be that those tickets that included an album counted as an album sale, so all those old artists that could draw crowds would have albums on the charts despite no airplay or people buying them in stores.


Mike Love's doing it at Beach Boys concerts this year with one of his solo albums, so I'd imagine it counts for something.

Vic
Nov 26, 2009

malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX

This is the only one I'll allow :colbert:

SubNat
Nov 27, 2008

BattleMaster posted:

I hate how animated GIFs are still a thing people make when browsers have supported real video formats for a while. On my phone I just browse SA with GIFs turned off in the Awful App but even on my desktop with my fast nternet connection they take longer to load and look worse than a proper video.

Yup, I really wish sites would just let you use webm/mp4 files in place of gifs in any case where you could usually use them. Instead of forcing you to handle them as 'proper' videos.
If sites like tumblr and other social media sites let people use video files in place of gifs, anywhere where gifs are usually used, gifs would start dying down pretty drat quickly.

Right now I think it's hanging around a lot because a lot of social media sites have weird artificial restrictions on how to handle video content vs 'images', which itself is pretty obsolete.
They'd save so much bandwidth too, if every 2-5MB reaction gif were a 500kB webm/mp4 instead.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


SubNat posted:

Yup, I really wish sites would just let you use webm/mp4 files in place of gifs in any case where you could usually use them. Instead of forcing you to handle them as 'proper' videos.
If sites like tumblr and other social media sites let people use video files in place of gifs, anywhere where gifs are usually used, gifs would start dying down pretty drat quickly.

Right now I think it's hanging around a lot because a lot of social media sites have weird artificial restrictions on how to handle video content vs 'images', which itself is pretty obsolete.
They'd save so much bandwidth too, if every 2-5MB reaction gif were a 500kB webm/mp4 instead.

They'll take my GIFs from my cold dead (hard G) hands!

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
So it's not even x86? :frogout:
There are actual single board PCs that you could just run DOS on.

Antioch posted:

I'm going to see the Backstreet Boys concert next summer.
Speaking of obsolete and failed...

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
Is MHL still around? It seemed like there was a slight blip on the radar of devices that supported it, then it seemingly vanished overnight.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Dewgy posted:

Yes, also gives very very good cooking advice.

And is very likably chill while doing so.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Phanatic posted:

Strange Days is wonderful except for one single dumb thing. Almost everything in it is put together perfectly, and Angela Bassett is even more of a badass than Linda Hamilton is in that other James Cameron movie.

Yup.

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

RC and Moon Pie posted:

Mike Love's doing it at Beach Boys concerts this year with one of his solo albums, so I'd imagine it counts for something.

Well, Mike Love is old and obsolete since about 1972 :colbert:

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

EvilGenius posted:

I'd much rather buy an original console than a mobile processor running an emulator that just happens to be inside a case that looks similar to the original.
Yeah, but thanks to obscene pricing emulation is a good way to go nowadays.

Even so, emulation will help preserve all our dumb stuff when time decides to rot boards, leak cap juice, or just cause things to die.

JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



spaceblancmange posted:

The mini ps1 is dumb because it misses the real nostalgic moments of that console like sitting it upside down because the laser mechanism is hosed or when your friends old roommate 'Steve' installed a modchip for a few beers.

:aaaaa:

My ex-bf tried to mod chip my original (the truly old school original one, the one that audiophiles go nuts for and would be worth a kajillion dollars now) PS and fried it. To make up for it, he bought me another one off eBay, which ran okay for about a year, and then stopped booting until I figured out it would work if I ran it upside down. I never knew that was A Thing, thought it was just mine. Mind blown.

And man, now I'm itching to play some Star Wars: Masters of Teras Kasi. (Tee hee. "HOAR WINS". "Fuckin whore!")

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Yeah if I recall the reason flipping it upside down works is because the mechanical track for the laser gets worn down and flipping it like that helps seat it properly. It's kinda like how the PS2 had a laser height tracking problem that you could manually fix (and that they fixed in later versions by just locking the laser to a set height).

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

SubNat posted:

They'd save so much bandwidth too, if every 2-5MB reaction gif were a 500kB webm/mp4 instead.

They'd save even more bandwidth if they just deleted every stupid reaction gif immediately upon upload.

T.C.
Feb 10, 2004

Believe.

It's an emulated system where you start a bunch of games from a menu. That's not the experience I'd want an independant box for. I might as well just buy things on GOG and play on my normal computer. It's also super joystick focused, which wasn't really the experience for most people. It's weird to me that their trailer thing shows them playing on an X-Box controller or something.

If I were buying a classic system, I'd want something that started up in DOS and had a bunch of games installed on it that you'd run from the environment. Sure, maybe make a menu that you can start to run things easier, but the whole point of an independent retro system is to recreate the experience.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK
Including the need to juggle HIMEM.SYS and interrupts before anything worked correctly.

JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



Kwyndig posted:

Yeah if I recall the reason flipping it upside down works is because the mechanical track for the laser gets worn down and flipping it like that helps seat it properly. It's kinda like how the PS2 had a laser height tracking problem that you could manually fix (and that they fixed in later versions by just locking the laser to a set height).

Interesting!

Mine also developed a problem where it wouldn't boot up if it had the controllers or memory cards plugged in. I'd slap in my trusty MTV Music Generator disc, flip her upside down with nothing else attached, she'd slowly fire up, then tell me "NO CONTROLLERS FOUND" or some such. I'd sigh, say, "yeah, honey, I know", plug everything in, and we'd be good.

I somehow made my first two (and part of my third) albums with that tech. I can't imagine having that patience now.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
When I tried to sell mine recently I looked up if audiophiles still cared and found many people saying their's was hosed as the original laser and carrier was poo poo etc. It was suprising as my OG playstation never had any problems ever from when I bought it new. I sold that fucker about 2 months ago to a collector for $200 and chucked in a CRT and time crisis gun and game to sweeten the deal. It was a risk holding out on price but I really needed exactly $200 at the time and luckily I found the right buyer.
I used mine for a CD audio a lot over the past 12 years+, but gave no fucks as all my CDs were packed away plus also have a $20 s/h denon sacd/dvd spare if I ever want to set up some nice audio system in the future.

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Audiophiles cared about PS1s for about six months, then moved on to the next piece of snake oil crap.

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