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Anyone else's non-pagan rulers dying constantly in battle? Played a Catholic Duke and as the Byzantine Emperor and each game if I let them lead armies they'd get killed in single combat after a few battles. Over the course of the both games of 11 rulers, 10 died in battle and the longest they lasted was 6 years. Personal combat skill didn't seem to make much of a difference. Pagans are fine though, even with low personal combat skill. Makes me think a battlefield duelling event is out of whack as that is what seems to kill me everytime
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Nov 17, 2018 19:47
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DeadLetterOfficer posted:Anyone else's non-pagan rulers dying constantly in battle? Played a Catholic Duke and as the Byzantine Emperor and each game if I let them lead armies they'd get killed in single combat after a few battles. Over the course of the both games of 11 rulers, 10 died in battle and the longest they lasted was 6 years. Personal combat skill didn't seem to make much of a difference. Out of curiosity what time period? Probably not relevant, but I suspect Catholics get buffs once crusades start up. My pagan game so far has given me the impression that pagans completely dominate battlefield events when they’re leading troops.
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Nov 17, 2018 19:52
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 The best ruler I could ever want and and his heirs are all poo poo.
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Nov 17, 2018 19:54
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cheesetriangles posted:
Divorce your wife, marry a younger one, make more babies.
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Nov 17, 2018 19:56
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Torrannor posted:Divorce your wife, marry a younger one, make more babies. Hey that's a great idea. The Pope loves me so he is sure to grant it.
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Nov 17, 2018 20:08
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:Out of curiosity what time period? Probably not relevant, but I suspect Catholics get buffs once crusades start up. My pagan game so far has given me the impression that pagans completely dominate battlefield events when they’re leading troops. Old Gods start so that would make sense. But even my strong, brave, brilliant strategist Emperor with the +25 combat skill handgun died in his second battle, then his 4th when I reloaded. This was in battles where I outnumbered them 10 to 1. Not the end of the world though. It's basically a free suicide to get my groomed heir on the throne as soon as he hits 16. Torrannor posted:Divorce your wife, marry a younger one, make more babies. Seduction focus and impregnate everyone with a good trait. Legitimise the good kids. DeadLetterOfficer fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Nov 17, 2018 |
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Nov 17, 2018 20:14
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cheesetriangles posted:Hey that's a great idea. The Pope loves me so he is sure to grant it. KILL YOUR WIFE AND GET ANOTHER! SACRIFICE THEM ALL!
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Nov 17, 2018 20:47
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MaxieSatan posted:Man, I did the "Forge Bloodline" thing for the first time today, and I really wish it was a little less opaque what the event-chain ones do. I'm not even sure if the choices I got were tied to the goals I was pursuing or if I just did a completely different thing than my original intent. There's a bloodline you can get for completing each of the listed tasks in the ambition There's a different bloodline for going half and half on any combination of two Events will pop up about forging a bloodline; these produce different results than the first two options, and I believe have 8 different potential bloodlines available (four with the first choice, each splitting into two with the second.)
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Nov 17, 2018 21:22
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MaxieSatan posted:Man, I did the "Forge Bloodline" thing for the first time today, and I really wish it was a little less opaque what the event-chain ones do. I'm not even sure if the choices I got were tied to the goals I was pursuing or if I just did a completely different thing than my original intent. If you want to be 100% less opaque, someone put together a list on the Paradox forums, but otherwise it's basically what Strudel said. Once you know what event chain options there are it's pretty clear which choices lead to what. (also the Benevolence bloodline chain is currently bugged to hike your revolt risk through the roof, apparently, so, um, don't pursue that one). DeadLetterOfficer posted:Anyone else's non-pagan rulers dying constantly in battle? Played a Catholic Duke and as the Byzantine Emperor and each game if I let them lead armies they'd get killed in single combat after a few battles. Over the course of the both games of 11 rulers, 10 died in battle and the longest they lasted was 6 years. Personal combat skill didn't seem to make much of a difference. Battle is a lot more of a meatgrinder in 3.0 for some reason, I've had to replace a ton of commanders playing as a Catholic king, and it took several tries to get my Eleanor of Aquitaine start off the ground because she kept being killed or incapped in battle. It's not just battlefield duelling, even just the random deaths or comas seem more common than I remember. That said, I've had a few that managed to stick around once they improved personal combat skill through experience or items. End of the day it's still RNG and sometimes the dice come up snake eyes. I think Pagan warrior societies give powers that buff your survivability (and I hope someone mods in knightly orders or some other warrior societies that do similarly), but I don't know if there's anything more than that (haven't really looked at the code though). In other news, guess who forgot to turn off Sunset Invasion and had the Aztecs arrive in 1189 (shortly after the Mongools actually, yay for the Delayed Random game rule)? Although actually the Aztecs aren't the real problem, after conquering England, Scotland, Normandy and Portugal they got ground down enough by defensive pacts and a Crusade that I could probably take them on my own at this point. The REAL problem is that the goddamn Kaiser, who is second only to the Mongols in levy size, took them as a tributary state so now they can call him in against basically anything that might ever get rid of them, including vassal revolts. I guess I'll just have to get used to the smell of burning sacrifices wafting over the Channel. edit: oh boy, Aztec England just got a crusade called against them, I can't WAIT to find out what happens when they call the Kaiser into it. answeredit: the Kaiser joined the crusade so now the Aztecs only have Wales and Galicia left, score. Dallan Invictus fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Nov 18, 2018 |
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Nov 17, 2018 21:43
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So apparently Greeks can try to forge a claim that they are descendents of Alexander the Great See guys our Dynasty is Makedon... Alexander was from Makedon... soo put two and two together and yes we are his true heirs! A bunch of events and about 20,000 prestige and 5,000 gold down the toliet you get this sexy bloodline.  Yes you get once a lifetime invasions which will make retaking the Roman Empire so much easier Jack2142 fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Nov 17, 2018 |
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Nov 17, 2018 21:51
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DeadLetterOfficer posted:Anyone else's non-pagan rulers dying constantly in battle? Played a Catholic Duke and as the Byzantine Emperor and each game if I let them lead armies they'd get killed in single combat after a few battles. Over the course of the both games of 11 rulers, 10 died in battle and the longest they lasted was 6 years. Personal combat skill didn't seem to make much of a difference. Yeah, one ruler of mine lasted two days before dying in the same battle as his predecessor. What I've found is that if you're going to be a warmongering Catholic you really have to prepare for it by taking the war focus and being an rear end in a top hat to people until you can duel them; the duelist trait being worth a cool +30 personal combat goes a long way toward staying alive on the battlefield and the other minor buffs (Warrior et al) stack up quickly as well. In general though I'm cool with all of it. Like, yeah, this scholar king with noodle arms probably can't take the furious berserker jarl the size of a truck who's done nothing but fight for three decades, fair enough Pdox.
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Nov 17, 2018 21:57
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Jack2142 posted:So apparently Greeks can try to forge a claim that they are descendents of Alexander the Great I got that one as an Italian ruling from Rome and with only one county of Greek land, though I was also trying to revive Hellenism in secret so that may have something to do with it.
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Nov 17, 2018 22:00
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Can only Byzantium reform Rome?
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Nov 17, 2018 22:12
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It seems like the 'Go on a pilgrimage' mission for monastic orders is bugged - it never gets removed after you've returned and got pilgrim status.
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Nov 17, 2018 22:15
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cheesetriangles posted:Can only Byzantium reform Rome? If you're Catholic Rome doesn't need reforming. You have direct successors already in the Papacy and the Holy Roman Empire.
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Nov 17, 2018 22:25
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The amount of prestige you get from duels should really be tied to the combat ability of your opponent. I keep getting into duels with my daughter/rival who by this point has one eye, one hand and one leg and I still get 100 prestige each time. Who is honestly impressed by a lunatic viking hacking off bits of his daughter every few years?
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Nov 17, 2018 22:25
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cheesetriangles posted:Can only Byzantium reform Rome? Yes. But you need not be Orthodox iirc, Catholics can do it, too.
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Nov 17, 2018 22:27
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Oh gods that even bloodline that lets you plot for any title is crazy good if you want to do land management and if you've been sprouting down unrelated cadet dynasties, I wonder if you can take the ambition again?
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Nov 17, 2018 22:36
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Raided the vactican and stole Jesus's foreskin. Game is good.
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Nov 17, 2018 22:44
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When it comes to Pagan Reformation, what leaderships did you all pick? In terms of options it seems like the most vague in terms of what benefits and drawbacks it gives you. If it wasn't for the potential loss of Great Holy Wars then Autonomous would be quite a near pick, giving you extra attributes and potential paths to take!
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Nov 17, 2018 22:50
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Honestly, I feel like the West-African specific one is meh. I wish that you could take either two premade ones or three individual ones, because as is they feel kinda, lifeless afterwards I dunno, it's a great system though. Maybe that would make them overpowered?
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Nov 17, 2018 22:53
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SkySteak posted:When it comes to Pagan Reformation, what leaderships did you all pick? In terms of options it seems like the most vague in terms of what benefits and drawbacks it gives you. If it wasn't for the potential loss of Great Holy Wars then Autonomous would be quite a near pick, giving you extra attributes and potential paths to take! Oh, I went with Autonomous anyway, largely for rp reasons. Who needs GHWs when I can just run a regular holy war six times?
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Nov 17, 2018 22:54
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Randarkman posted:If you're Catholic Rome doesn't need reforming. You have direct successors already in the Papacy and the Holy Roman Empire. Thems fighting words.
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Nov 17, 2018 22:57
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Jacque Pott posted:I got that one as an Italian ruling from Rome and with only one county of Greek land, though I was also trying to revive Hellenism in secret so that may have something to do with it.
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Nov 17, 2018 23:01
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I decided to get the dlc after all. I'm playing as Isabella of Jerusalem in 1220. She has become a fat drunk lunatic but everybody loves her and so do I. What areas exactly do I need to control to form the empire of Outremer? The tooltip just says "near east". Jerusalem and Syria? Plus Anatolia?
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Nov 17, 2018 23:09
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If you are trying to Forge a bloodline, DO NOT PICK THE OPTION TO REFORM LAWS. It's absolutely awful. It gives some meager monthly piety and prestige and a bonus to other Just rulers. On the flip side, it will cause every single province in your entire country to get a massive revolt risk. It does not go away once the peasants revolt. You must wait it out. Literally every county in my entire realm is revolting every month, to the point I can't even click close all the popups telling me there is a revolt before another wave pops.
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Nov 17, 2018 23:22
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Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:If you are trying to Forge a bloodline, DO NOT PICK THE OPTION TO REFORM LAWS. It's absolutely awful. It gives some meager monthly piety and prestige and a bonus to other Just rulers. On the flip side, it will cause every single province in your entire country to get a massive revolt risk. It does not go away once the peasants revolt. You must wait it out. Literally every county in my entire realm is revolting every month, to the point I can't even click close all the popups telling me there is a revolt before another wave pops. This happened to me too and it was miserable. NO ONE DO THIS.
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Nov 17, 2018 23:32
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What triggers the Alexander's bloodline event chain? Is it just random?
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Nov 17, 2018 23:39
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The Battle Axe posted:This happened to me too and it was miserable. NO ONE DO THIS. JosefStalinator posted:What triggers the Alexander's bloodline event chain? Is it just random?
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Nov 17, 2018 23:43
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pidan posted:I decided to get the dlc after all. I'm playing as Isabella of Jerusalem in 1220. She has become a fat drunk lunatic but everybody loves her and so do I. Not Anatolia from what I remember JosefStalinator posted:What triggers the Alexander's bloodline event chain? Is it just random?
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Nov 17, 2018 23:44
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I took the bloodline to have a better chance to capture artifacts when sieging and I didn't get a single one ever. I think it might only apply to personally leading troops.
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Nov 18, 2018 00:03
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Oh oops my son randomly inherited the kingdom of pannonia in my poland blob game. -500 modifier in the elective gavelkind. I had to boat race to form the wendish empire and now I'm not sure. I wanted to remain pure and form the polish empire, but that's just not possible before I die and drop all my kingdoms to randos dynasty members. I really don't like that kingdom titles are magically created on ascension if you own enough of the de jure land.
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Nov 18, 2018 01:03
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Its intentional to prevent Gavelkind abuse where you could keep massive territories by ensuring you only had one top-level title.
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Nov 18, 2018 01:07
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That has me thinking: is it easier to kill yourself dueling in battles now?
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Nov 18, 2018 01:17
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Pope decided to call his first crusade for loving Sweden, and after being the top contributor I not only got a 6k gold purse, but my brother got set up on the throne. Of course Sweden was a disjointed mess of tribal counties, and not three years later he loses his kingdom and gets run out of town by rampaging pagans. He then shows back up in my court with his tail between his legs... and 8k more gold.  ..... So yeah, now I have a -40 tyrant malus for imprisoning/banishing him. It hurts sure, but I think I can spend my way through the pain.
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Nov 18, 2018 01:40
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I'm playing as the Byzantines and for some reason I can't nominate my brother as heir. I could before but people didn't like him so I gave him some counties and made him a commander and now I can't nominate him. Anyone know why?
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Nov 18, 2018 01:40
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Figured it out... I accidentally gave him a city instead of a castle. gently caress me.
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Nov 18, 2018 01:44
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My current game has, for three generations, ruled three counties in Italy as direct vassels of the Pope while becoming Magi in the Hermetic Order. The first in this line made a handgun artifact. Since then, the family's hobby has been destabilizing the whole Europe and Africa by poo poo talking the kings and emperors to a point that they offer to duel, then Indiana Jones'ing them right off the bat without mercy. This had led to only West Francia not being a total mess on the map, I mean random start doesn't create as much chaos as an rear end in a top hat with a pistol and euphoria potion.
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Nov 18, 2018 01:46
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cheesetriangles posted:I took the bloodline to have a better chance to capture artifacts when sieging and I didn't get a single one ever. I think it might only apply to personally leading troops. cheesetriangles posted:Figured it out... I accidentally gave him a city instead of a castle. gently caress me.
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cheesetriangles posted:Figured it out... I accidentally gave him a city instead of a castle. gently caress me.
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