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Mulva posted:I mean has there ever been a good video game that implemented them? Imperials ain't poo poo in Fire Warrior.
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So no. e: To be clear, I have nothing against the Tau. I think they'd be amazingly fun as an army.....if, you know, there was a Kroot HQ choice so we could completely ignore the blue skinned jackasses. vvvv and fair cop, that wasn't a bad game. Mulva fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Nov 18, 2018 |
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Nov 18, 2018 16:50
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Mulva posted:I mean has there ever been a good video game that implemented them?
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Nov 18, 2018 17:29
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Mulva posted:So no. Not using combined arms would miss the whole point of the Tau. The blue guys do the shooting, the birdmen do the chopping, there are airstrikes and cruise missile barrages everywhere. Their shortcomings are operational, not strategic or tactical.
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Nov 18, 2018 18:57
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Welp RT game. When you're a 7.5 foot tall catachan in archeotech power armor, it appears you can get a lot of mileage out of impersonating a space marine when trying to scare the enemy shitless.
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Nov 18, 2018 22:45
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Mulva posted:I mean has there ever been a good video game that implemented them? Aren't the only two games really Fire Warrior and Dawn of War: Dark Crusade/Soulstorm? There's a tau hero for Last Stand in DoW 2 but that barely counts.
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Nov 19, 2018 10:32
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There hasn't even been a good miniature game that featured Tau 
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Nov 19, 2018 10:56
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JcDent posted:There hasn't even been a good miniature game that featured Tau From what I’ve heard Infinity is actually a good ruleset, though? 
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Nov 19, 2018 13:34
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Mulva posted:So no. There was an all-kroot army list, I think in Chapter Approved 2004. It was actually pretty good.
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Nov 19, 2018 13:55
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Ronwayne posted:Welp RT game. When you're a 7.5 foot tall catachan in archeotech power armor, it appears you can get a lot of mileage out of impersonating a space marine when trying to scare the enemy shitless. I mean, anyone in archaeotech power armor could reasonably pull that off. Or just a Catachan veteran, shirtless, with a red bandana and a huge loving knife.
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Nov 19, 2018 15:16
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Space Marines were an attempt to create artificial Catachans.
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Nov 19, 2018 17:18
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Aren't the only two games really Fire Warrior and Dawn of War: Dark Crusade/Soulstorm? There's a tau hero for Last Stand in DoW 2 but that barely counts. *crosses finger* Please don't suck BFG:A2, please don't suck BFG:A2...
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Nov 19, 2018 17:43
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Aren't the only two games really Fire Warrior and Dawn of War: Dark Crusade/Soulstorm? There's a tau hero for Last Stand in DoW 2 but that barely counts. I will defend Fire Warrior because as kinda crap as the game was it was my introduction to 40k, and yes I bought it pre-owned at gamestop because 10 year old me thought the fire warrior crouched on a pile of skulls was awesome. Also, that game's depiction of bolters is still my head cannon on how they work and will be forever.
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Werix posted:I will defend Fire Warrior because as kinda crap as the game was it was my introduction to 40k, and yes I bought it pre-owned at gamestop because 10 year old me thought the fire warrior crouched on a pile of skulls was awesome. How did it depict bolters?
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chin up everything sucks posted:How did it depict bolters?
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Nov 20, 2018 03:02
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4BD8uiTUGw holy heck was it a bad game
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Asehujiko posted:Rocket launchers, basically. Watch the intro movie here. Those things killing Taus are bolter rounds.
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Asehujiko posted:Rocket launchers, basically. Bolter rounds are supposed to be rocket propelled and blow people apart on hit, so that's about right.
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MaliciousOnion posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4BD8uiTUGw Fire Warrior was goddamn abysmal, but the trailer is a great 90 second intro to 40k for newbies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t-btrx_dAA SKULLS. VIOLENCE. BUTT METAL.
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Fire Warrior has a great novelization. Just a Tau grunt losing his mind as he runs into nonstop Video Game Bullshit like keycards and boss fight mechanics.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Fire Warrior has a great novelization. Just a Tau grunt losing his mind as he runs into nonstop Video Game Bullshit like keycards and boss fight mechanics.
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Nov 20, 2018 07:50
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Didn’t that novel say the main character was blessed by Khorne somehow?
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Werix posted:Watch the intro movie here. Those things killing Taus are bolter rounds. Heck yeah, it just looks and feels brutal. Bolters should be more powerful on the TT. And chainswords. And *gets lost in a 3 hour long rant about the TT*
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:Didn’t that novel say the main character was blessed by Khorne somehow? Yes. There are two events I particularly remember from that novel: 1. He clowns on a squad of Dark Angels by literally running around them in a circle and causing them to have a friendly fire incident because they just hold their triggers and rotate in place. 2. The finale involves a demon repeatedly changing the god it's allied to because this is a 4-phase puzzle boss and you're going to like it, mister. Not quite on par with the dialysis midget from the Word Bearers trilogy, but gloriously stupid nonetheless.
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Dachshundofdoom posted:1. He clowns on a squad of Dark Angels by literally running around them in a circle and causing them to have a friendly fire incident because they just hold their triggers and rotate in place. The most finely-honed, preternaturally skilled warriors that humanity has to offer, folks
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Hexenritter posted:The most finely-honed, preternaturally skilled warriors that humanity has to offer, folks Some writers should never be allowed near a keyboard.
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:Didn’t that novel say the main character was blessed by Khorne somehow? Yep. Not at first, but somewhere along the line Kais got Khorne's attention and blessing.
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Is the NCO from the first level who's like, "The dropship crashed, I'm your mission control." actually dead in the crash and just your dude being possessed?
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Ronwayne posted:Fire Warrior was goddamn abysmal, but the trailer is a great 90 second intro to 40k for newbies drat, that was great - i especially liked the ending if you want a vision of the future, imagine the imperium's boot stamping on its own face ... forever
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Kais the protagonist of Fire Warrior is now a legendary Tau Warrior nicknamed the Living Weapon. A recent novel revealed he was brought with the 4th expansion fleet Tau in statis. However his statis malfunctioned and as a result he was kept aware and awake, rather then asleep like normal for like more than a hundred years. He spent that time running battle simulations in his head about how to kill anyone he encounters, downloading all the information the Tau Empire had about it's tech and its enemies and their combat abilities. As part of a Tau deal with the Dark Angels Kais is sent to eliminate one of their successor chapters. And he utterly decimates them until the chapter master orders a orbital strike on his own monastery they are fighting in, one of the few things Kais did not account for. However Kais survives the blast and the Tau recover him. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Nov 21, 2018 |
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MonsterEnvy posted:Kais the protagonist of Fire Warrior is now a legendary Tau Warrior nicknamed the Living Weapon. A recent novel revealed he was brought with the 4th expansion fleet Tau in statis. However his statis malfunctioned and as a result he was kept aware and awake, rather then asleep like normal for like more than a hundred years. Lmao I love 40k
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Nov 20, 2018 23:44
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Kais is now the tau version of an Eversor assassin.
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chin up everything sucks posted:Kais is now the tau version of
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MonsterEnvy posted:As part of a Tau deal with the Dark Angels wat
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chin up everything sucks posted:Kais is now the tau version of an Eversor assassin.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:They're not important because they're not supposed to be important, I see. This makes them a really attractive choice to do anything with or write anything about. So reaching waaaaayyyyy back to when they were first introduced the explicit design intention of the Tau was that they were not meant to be a major faction, they were meant to be representative of the innumerable small scale civs/empires that are tooling about the galaxy doing their own thing just off-stage of the major players. The idea was that there are thousands of "Tau Empires" out there so wouldnt it be cool to make your own? Hence why they started as this coalition of different species. Just like the missing space marine legions were meant to be a blank space for people to create their own chapters the Tau were meant to seed the idea that people could come up with their own unique races. Except thats not how 40K has ever worked, people have always preferred to buy into established fluff rather than make their own. So simply by dint of being a named faction the Tau almost immediately became a major faction and the original design intention vanishes (also design intentions can go to hell when you realise you make a lot more money selling people stuff than encouraging them to make their own stuff). Which is why you have this weird contradiction of the Tau being simultaneously important and unimportant. This tiny empire on the fringes of the Imperium is also showing up at every major event and wrecking hive fleets and space marine chapters and whatever.
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Without reading the book I'm gonna guess somehow the Dark Angels super secrets and the fallen are involved.
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The Lone Badger posted:Kais is now the tau version of the Doom Slayer. A psychic plague was affecting the region, and appeared to be being spread by one of the Fallen. The Fallen was captured by the Angels of Absolution successor chapter. The Dark Angels struck a bargain with the Tau to take care of each other's problems. The Tau would eliminate the population of the Angels of Absolutions planet many who were hit by the psychic plague, along with the Angels of Absolution as having captured a Fallen they may know too much in the Dark Angel's eyes. The fact that they may have also been exposed to the plague is another bonus reason in their eyes to get rid of them. The Tau of the 4th Sphere meanwhile want to eliminate their non Tau allies, and also snuff out the psychic plague. However to avoid controversy, they want the Dark Angels to wipe them out so they have plausible deniability. So the Dark Angels pick up the Fallen leave without explanation, then soon after a Tau ship comes along as they want take care of the angels of absolution as quietly as possible. So they send Kais in a Ghostkeel to wipe out the Angels of Absolution's Fortress Monastery alone. Which he nearly does. The New Primaris marine recruits into the Dark Angels were finding this all super shady. Which is made worse when they find out the Dark Angels were wiping their minds and altering their memories about the shady stuff. When an injured Primaris makes it clear he remembers the tampering to the medic, the Dark Angels medic euthanizes him while talking out loud the poor man succumbed to his injuries. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Nov 21, 2018 |
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And this is why Orkz is best. So much less complicated and back asswards.
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It should also be mentioned that "Kais" is like "awesome" in stupid blue people, as there are like 3 entirely separate characters that have a vaguely similar name and people often mix up a few of them. So Shas'o Vior'la Kais isn't Shas'la T'au Kais isn't Shas'o T'au Kais. O'Shovah has a Kais in his full name too, it's practically filler in their ridiculously long names.
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