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Fulchrum posted:...the hell is wrong with Indigenous Peoples day? i was wondering what that poster's beef was, too
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Fulchrum posted:...the hell is wrong with Indigenous Peoples day? No beef with that and maybe I'm being over sensitive here I'm just sick of the hot take parade. I'm already seeing some dipshit site taking that tweet and spinning it into how she actually hates natives
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Nov 18, 2018 20:20
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It's always weird seeing people care about Columbus day because my state doesn't recognize it or indigenous peoples say. We just don't have any holiday then.
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Nov 18, 2018 20:21
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cheetah7071 posted:It's always weird seeing people care about Columbus day because my state doesn't recognize it or indigenous peoples say. We just don't have any holiday then. its not a national holiday? lol, that's pretty funny
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Nov 18, 2018 20:24
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Rex-Goliath posted:No beef with that and maybe I'm being over sensitive here I'm just sick of the hot take parade. I'm already seeing some dipshit site taking that tweet and spinning it into how she actually hates natives Don't let them sink their talons in too deep into ya. Some Alex Jones clone will always try to spin any good news as the worst and most horrible traitor possible. (And that counts FOX news!) KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Nov 18, 2018 |
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Nov 18, 2018 20:24
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https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/368849-biden-on-young-people-complaining-they-have-it-tough-give-me-aThe Hill posted:Former Vice President Joe Biden pushed back this week on millennials who say they have it tough, saying he does not sympathize with them.
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Nov 18, 2018 20:24
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RaySmuckles posted:its not a national holiday? lol, that's pretty funny It's a federal holiday but that only really matters for federal employees
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Nov 18, 2018 20:27
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AntifaSupersoldier posted:https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/368849-biden-on-young-people-complaining-they-have-it-tough-give-me-a i don't think anybody is saying this unless we have people who think eg Harris and Booker aren't centrists, which i'd enjoy seeing argued in this thread longer quote from the article, not that i'm a bidenliker (for 2020)  : quote:"The younger generation now tells me how tough things are. Give me a break. No, no, I have no empathy for it. Give me a break," Biden, 75, told The Los Angeles Times earlier this week.
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Nov 18, 2018 20:27
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cheetah7071 posted:It's a federal holiday but that only really matters for federal employees gotcha, thanks edit: even the full biden quote isn't very good. "finished the civil rights movement in the first stage?" well, glad that's all been wrapped up then
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Nov 18, 2018 20:29
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AntifaSupersoldier posted:https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/368849-biden-on-young-people-complaining-they-have-it-tough-give-me-a I just said the guy is charismatic.  A bit irrelevant on the Hitler-Hanks spectrum.
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Nov 18, 2018 20:30
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KickerOfMice posted:I just said the guy is charismatic. not saying that this is you, but its amazing how many people think onion joe is actual joe biden
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Nov 18, 2018 20:31
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GreyjoyBastard posted:i don't think anybody is saying this That some  poo poo to talk about "we" with the Civil Rights movement there given his loving history.
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Nov 18, 2018 20:32
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RaySmuckles posted:gotcha, thanks i basically agree, i just like for us to have more information about the things we're mad about when we're not just venting
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Nov 18, 2018 20:33
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RaySmuckles posted:not saying that this is you, but its amazing how many people think onion joe is actual joe biden It was a funny character though.  *speeds off in a badass trans-am*
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Nov 18, 2018 20:33
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None of that quote sounds good, and that second part is just neoliberal trumplike dementia Also are we really going to let 75 year olds lecture us about marriage equality? I remember the last twenty years and it wasn’t lgbtq getting help from the senior citizens. This was the generation that “evolved” on gay marriage, not long after they finally had accepted biological evolutionary theory as well. Peacoffee fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Nov 18, 2018 |
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Nov 18, 2018 20:34
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GreyjoyBastard posted:i don't think anybody is saying this You're an old white guy who'd like another old white to be in power again, that's normal
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Nov 18, 2018 20:34
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It's completely fair to say Joe Biden's stance is "gently caress them kids" considering he basically put the phrase into legislation with the student loan crap.
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Nov 18, 2018 20:35
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Fulchrum posted:...the hell is wrong with Indigenous Peoples day? if there was a 'Hitler Day' and someone decided to fix it by calling it 'Jewish People's Day' I'd be pretty annoyed. Just delete the day and give people a day not connected to the dude what killed them
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Nov 18, 2018 20:35
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https://twitter.com/tucsonpeck/status/1063882272452038656?s=21
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Nov 18, 2018 20:37
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I was listening to an economist on NPR the other day who actually made the point that, ironically, the insurance industry may end up being our saviors, because only they have the immense lobbying power necessary to, uh... "encourage" politicians to do something meaningful about climate change. Basically, once their profits start tanking, they will start refusing to insure certain people, and that will result in massive amounts of civil unrest. Not just the poors either. For example, most beachfront property in Florida is about ~25 years from being uninsurable, which will start being reflected in prices soon.
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Nov 18, 2018 20:41
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enraged_camel posted:I was listening to an economist on NPR the other day who actually made the point that, ironically, the insurance industry may end up being our saviors, because only they have the immense lobbying power necessary to, uh... "encourage" politicians to do something meaningful about climate change. Basically, once their profits start tanking, they will start refusing to insure certain people, and that will result in massive amounts of civil unrest. NPR has really gone to poo poo with thier reporting, and I used to be a big fan. I could make the same argument about my turkey-spinach meatballs. It could work!
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Nov 18, 2018 20:44
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KickerOfMice posted:NPR has really gone to poo poo with thier reporting, and I used to be a big fan. I could make the same argument about my turkey-spinach meatballs. It could work! What? Are you not familiar with what happens when insurance companies refuse to insure certain groups of people?
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Nov 18, 2018 20:46
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KickerOfMice posted:NPR has really gone to poo poo with thier reporting, and I used to be a big fan. I could make the same argument about my turkey-spinach meatballs. It could work! Hoo boy...I remember I listened to a few episodes of the NPR politics podcast in 2016, and it was execrable. It was basically entirely, "LOL, did you hear about this CRAZY thing that Trump said? It was CRAZY! Let's talk about how CRAZY it was for thirty minutes but also deliberately not call what he said bad or racist or fascistic or really cast any value judgments upon it. We're serious centrists!!!" It was like a satirical caricature of CNN's coverage of the election. Only not.
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Nov 18, 2018 20:46
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enraged_camel posted:What? Not in this instance, educate me, please.
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Nov 18, 2018 20:47
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The federal government will step in to back policies to prop up real estate prices before they let ol whitey take it on the chin on their beachfront property. Edit: I could see massive civic projects to reclaim private land lost to sea level rise to be honest.
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Nov 18, 2018 20:49
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KickerOfMice posted:Not in this instance, educate me, please. "pre-existing conditions"
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Nov 18, 2018 20:50
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enraged_camel posted:"pre-existing conditions" Well you know very well how I think about that, dumbass. M4A.  I mean, the idea (NPR GUEST) that The insurance industry is going to be our savior. Cmon. KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Nov 18, 2018 |
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Nov 18, 2018 20:53
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KickerOfMice posted:Well you know very well how I think about that, dumbass. M4A. I think we're talking past each other then? What I'm saying is that the whole pre-existing conditions debate shows us how people feel about insurance companies refusing to provide coverage for certain groups of people. Climate change will cause the exact same issue, except with other types of insurance. 25 years from now we will be having the flood/hurricane/etc. insurance version of today's pre-existing condition debate.
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Nov 18, 2018 20:56
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KickerOfMice posted:Well you know very well how I think about that, dumbass. M4A. I mean, even oil companies are starting to publicly sound the alarm about climate change.
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Nov 18, 2018 20:59
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enraged_camel posted:I think we're talking past each other then? Yeaaah that flew over my head. Hmm. that's actually a good question, let me think about it. Would you link the interview?
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Nov 18, 2018 20:59
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Isn't beachfront property insured by the federal government because no private insurance company would ever issue flood insurance at anything like an affordable rate
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Nov 18, 2018 21:01
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Nov 18, 2018 21:04
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KickerOfMice posted:Yeaaah that flew over my head. Hmm. that's actually a good question, let me think about it. I don't have it handy, sorry. It was on the radio while I was driving, about a month ago. But there are many sources that describe this phenomenon, example: https://www.wsj.com/graphics/climate-change-forcing-insurance-industry-recalculate/ quote:Changing risk probabilities may make some areas uninsurable altogether, or at least so risky the cost would be prohibitively expensive for insurance buyers, executives say.
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Nov 18, 2018 21:06
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enraged_camel posted:I mean, even oil companies are starting to publicly sound the alarm about climate change. They have? Do you have any links to press releases or articles about that?
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Nov 18, 2018 21:09
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So what Fox show did a scary caravan special this morning?
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Nov 18, 2018 21:09
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Jealous Cow posted:The federal government will step in to back policies to prop up real estate prices before they let ol whitey take it on the chin on their beachfront property. the WPA, except instead of building post offices and dams we're building
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Nov 18, 2018 21:11
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Mr.Unique-Name posted:They have? Do you have any links to press releases or articles about that? https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/sep/20/exxonmobil-joins-oil-gas-climate-change-alliance-global-warming
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Nov 18, 2018 21:13
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VitalSigns posted:Isn't beachfront property insured by the federal government because no private insurance company would ever issue flood insurance at anything like an affordable rate Yes. enraged_camel is wrong to compare refusing cover pre-existing conditions with refusing to insure land that will soon be underwater. Regardless of you opinion on personal responsibility, when the government covers all the costs of rebuilding a home destroyed by hurricanes every five years, people keep building more homes in the same at risk locations. The result is the level of risk and liability progressively increases, and the costs continue to spiral. Worse still, the political will to change course because ever more scarce. By making people pay market rates for insurance and eliminating perverse incentives, we can encourage appropriate climate adaptation. Unfortunately a lot of people aren't equipped to properly judge the real risk of a property. That's why its important the true costs are presented upfront before they buy. It's regrettable that there are already people in places at risk that would be ruined by changing the prices. However if we continue as things are now for their benefit, it will be at the expense of someone else. Maybe some kind of compensation is in order, but we have to make coastal real estate match the true social cost.
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Nov 18, 2018 21:15
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enraged_camel posted:I don't have it handy, sorry. It was on the radio while I was driving, about a month ago. This is very good. It's import we begin climate mitigation as fast as possible, and disincentivizing development in the highest risk locations is a good way to start. We should also discourage people from rebuilding structures in locations that are frequently destroyed in large storms and floods.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Nelson is going to concede at 3 today; the gap in votes narrowed to 10k between him and Scott after all the recounts are in. I wish I had more of a reaction to this, but its Florida, so never hope
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