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THS posted:nasser was cool imo That's why they had him murked
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R. Guyovich posted:that guy is one of those insane "left" anti-assadists, in the same mold as louis proyect and all the pre-2016 dsa geezers
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don't play around with trotskyism, folks! -- getfiscal i think
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Nov 18, 2018 19:07
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Mess with the Trot Ya git got
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The real left supports Assad insofar as he's a target of imperialist aggression but also thinks Assad should be decapitated by the Syrian proletariat after the imperialist marauders are ejected.
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Graphic posted:The real left supports Assad insofar as he's a target of imperialist aggression but also thinks Assad should be decapitated by the Syrian proletariat after the imperialist marauders are ejected. that's the stuff
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Real left, I’m searching for a real left Someone to set the proles free
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Kurnugia posted:The real left supports assad. Frankly, this ought to be a litmus test for anyone who calls themselves a socialist real socialists support kings who start civil wars by murdering their subjects for demanding democratic reforms
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Graphic posted:The real left supports Assad insofar as he's a target of imperialist aggression but also thinks Assad should be decapitated by the Syrian proletariat after the imperialist marauders are ejected. Love this thread b/c poo poo like this gets posted and all I can do is nod and say "I thought I was the only one"
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apropos to nothing posted:real socialists support kings who start civil wars by murdering their subjects for demanding democratic reforms cry
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BULBASAUR posted:Love this thread b/c poo poo like this gets posted and all I can do is nod and say "I thought I was the only one" lol same
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It's called the science of marxism-leninism, and science tells me that the curse is real
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nobody in the US even supports assad. what support have you given to him? defend him from people on the internet who say hes bad? I'll bet he appreciates it. "supporting" assad is the most meaningless political position you can have in the US but it gives you a chance to further alienate yourself from the actual struggle of working people so I guess theres that
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apropos to nothing posted:real socialists support kings who start civil wars by murdering their subjects for demanding democratic reforms it's p fascinating tho, how (correctly) wanting to oppose the american empire gets some types of people to feel like they need to argue in support of just about anyone opposed to them
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Kurnugia posted:it's p fascinating tho, how (correctly) wanting to oppose the american empire gets some types of people to feel like they need to argue in support of just about anyone opposed to them you can oppose US military intervention anywhere without "supporting" dictators
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yeah, that's what i meant by implication. i was just doing a bit of phrenology ther
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apropos to nothing posted:nobody in the US even supports assad. what support have you given to him? defend him from people on the internet who say hes bad? I'll bet he appreciates it. "supporting" assad is the most meaningless political position you can have in the US but it gives you a chance to further alienate yourself from the actual struggle of working people so I guess theres that at this point, I've given up on ever hearing anything about the content posted in the private Pol Pot subreddit
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I'm not posting this for any other reason than that I came across is on Twitter and immediately thought of this thread. https://twitter.com/DeathToAmerikkk/status/1064245836656214016
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assad is daddy and i want his cummies
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apropos to nothing posted:nobody in the US even supports assad. what support have you given to him? defend him from people on the internet who say hes bad? I'll bet he appreciates it. "supporting" assad is the most meaningless political position you can have in the US but it gives you a chance to further alienate yourself from the actual struggle of working people so I guess theres that cry
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sry
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wipe my tears
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apropos to nothing posted:nobody in the US even supports assad. what support have you given to him? defend him from people on the internet who say hes bad? I'll bet he appreciates it. "supporting" assad is the most meaningless political position you can have in the US but it gives you a chance to further alienate yourself from the actual struggle of working people so I guess theres that this but it's about the YPG
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I mean sending PissPigGranddad to join the YPG still counts as praxis, right? How many Twitter tankies have joined the SAA?
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Crazycryodude posted:I mean sending PissPigGranddad to join the YPG still counts as praxis, right? How many Twitter tankies have joined the SAA? PPG sent himself.
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apropos to nothing posted:nobody in the US even supports assad. what support have you given to him? defend him from people on the internet who say hes bad? I'll bet he appreciates it. "supporting" assad is the most meaningless political position you can have in the US but it gives you a chance to further alienate yourself from the actual struggle of working people so I guess theres that I mean you're not wrong but you're also being pretty pedantic. People are just saying they side with Assad when it comes to Assad vs. reactionary islamists and US imperialism. Are you going to jump down someone's throat for saying they "support" Medicare For All because they're not a member of the House or Senate, writing and voting on M4A legislation?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:this but it's about the YPG yeah, no argument here
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Graphic posted:I mean you're not wrong but you're also being pretty pedantic. People are just saying they side with Assad when it comes to Assad vs. reactionary islamists and US imperialism. Are you going to jump down someone's throat for saying they "support" Medicare For All because they're not a member of the House or Senate, writing and voting on M4A legislation? support for medicare for all is something that you can in fact give tangible support towards even if you arent a politician. its also ludicrous to compare assad to medicare for all. of course reactionary islam and us imperialism are bad, but assad is also bad. the syrian working class however is good. and while many of them might support assad for understandable reasons, socialists shouldnt be tailing monarchies that butcher their own people. the left in the US criticizes, rightly, the CPUSA for supporting democrats despite the fact that no better option exists in almost virtually all national level races and the majority of workers in the US support them. they do this because both dems and reps are bourgeois capitalist parties. why does this acknowledgement and refusal to support either side change when both sides are even more reactionary than 2 liberal parties?
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im gay
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heck, same
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I guess I'm just confused why the position of "I/we oppose any and all US military intervention abroad" is not a strong enough or meaningful enough stance for socialists to hold. what is it about defense of assad and the assad regime which adds to the strength of the argument and the movement against US military intervention abroad?
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Look, if you don't tweet #HandsOffSomeCountry at least once every 24 hours I don't see how you can call yourself a socialist.
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HandsOffMyWife
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https://twitter.com/kenroth/status/1064244354938748931?s=21 When you’re the head of “Human Rights” Watch
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apropos to nothing posted:I guess I'm just confused why the position of "I/we oppose any and all US military intervention abroad" is not a strong enough or meaningful enough stance for socialists to hold. what is it about defense of assad and the assad regime which adds to the strength of the argument and the movement against US military intervention abroad? You're SAlt right? quote:”Neutrality?” – But the proletariat is nothing like neutral in the war between Japan and China, or a war between Germany and the USSR. “Then what is meant Is the defense of China and the USSR?” Of course!
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apropos to nothing posted:of course reactionary islam and us imperialism are bad, but assad is also bad. the syrian working class however is good. and while many of them might support assad for understandable reasons, socialists shouldnt be tailing monarchies that butcher their own people. quote:We do not and never have put all wars on the same plane. Marx and Engels supported the revolutionary struggle of the Irish against Great Britain, of the Poles against the tsar, even though in these two nationalist wars the leaders were, for the most part, members of the bourgeoisie and even at times of the feudal aristocracy ... at all events, Catholic reactionaries. When Abdel-Krim rose up against France, the democrats and Social Democrats spoke with hate of the struggle of a “savage tyrant” against the “democracy.” The party of Leon Blum supported this point of view. But we, Marxists and Bolsheviks, considered the struggle of the Riffians against imperialist domination as a progressive war. Lenin wrote hundreds of pages demonstrating the primary necessity of distinguishing between imperialist nations and the colonial and semicolonial nations which comprise the great majority of humanity. To speak of “revolutionary defeatism” in general, without distinguishing between exploiter and exploited countries, is to make a miserable caricature of Bolshevism and to put that caricature at the service of the imperialists. Read Trotsky.
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Graphic posted:Read Trotsky. owned lmao GalacticAcid posted:https://twitter.com/kenroth/status/1064244354938748931?s=21 Just to make sure we're all keeping score here: the real story is that Cuba withdrew all 11,000 of their doctors working in Brazil with the reasonable expectation that a lot of them would be murdered.
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the world trembles over *checks notes* Chinese social imperialism
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