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The Glumslinger posted:Last weekend, Walmart was kicking out one shelters from their parking lot because they wanted their parking back when walmart bigwigs die i hope god takes the form of lenin and sends their diseased souls through a literal Bullet Hell
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Gareth Gobulcoque posted:That's hard for me to look at and not think how many thousands more stories like it there will be in the very near future. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AhTGK1ybkk
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Nov 18, 2018 21:38
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Feranon posted:when walmart bigwigs die i hope god takes the form of lenin and sends their diseased souls through a literal Bullet Hell Aztec Hell. with no dog spirit guide to guide them past the soul-eating vampire bats and other horrors of Xibalba.
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Nov 18, 2018 22:42
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Bip Roberts posted:Yeah, from my experience mustelids a nightmare for gnomes and leprachauns. Once I saw a stoat take out a whole hive. It was horrifying with blood and little hats and little shoes all over the place. The most adorable and playful slaughter of gnome folk.
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Nov 18, 2018 22:56
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Is it possible that if someone dies in this forest fire, they just vaporize with no forensic evidence left? Those fires get pretty hot.
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Nov 18, 2018 23:27
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Big Dick Cheney posted:Is it possible that if someone dies in this forest fire, they just vaporize with no forensic evidence left? Those fires get pretty hot. if the sky laser hits you directly, yes.
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Nov 18, 2018 23:28
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Big Dick Cheney posted:Is it possible that if someone dies in this forest fire, they just vaporize with no forensic evidence left? Those fires get pretty hot. good news! we already have an established tradition of just never acknowledging deaths in natural disasters, like how hundreds or thousands of people are still "missing" after Katrina because they were in prison and the staff evacuated while leaving them locked up
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Nov 18, 2018 23:29
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Epic High Five posted:good news! we already have an established tradition of just never acknowledging deaths in natural disasters, like how hundreds or thousands of people are still "missing" after Katrina because they were in prison and the staff evacuated while leaving them locked up PRISONER: Please do not leave us here! Unlock us! We will drown! You are leaving us to die! GUARD: I am leaving you only to "missing", do not worry I will shoot a looter in your name.
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Nov 18, 2018 23:32
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Epic High Five posted:good news! we already have an established tradition of just never acknowledging deaths in natural disasters, like how hundreds or thousands of people are still "missing" after Katrina because they were in prison and the staff evacuated while leaving them locked up yeah there's at least a thousand people "unaccounted for" after paradise burned down and there's a good chance that most of those folks are dead but they won't officially be categorized as such until they find the remains....which there aren't any of see also: all the "unaccounted for" hurricane victims who are currently underwater skeletons
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Stairmaster posted:why not call it camp creek fire then Because the river's not on fire.
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Thousands of people are still "missing" from the tsunami in Japan a few years back because their bodies were washed out to sea, but the official categorization isn't really that important. In a couple months it'll be pretty clear that all the people still missing are dead.
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Nov 18, 2018 23:41
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Feranon posted:yeah there's at least a thousand people "unaccounted for" after paradise burned down and there's a good chance that most of those folks are dead but they won't officially be categorized as such until they find the remains....which there aren't any of not even underwater lol staff got back to the prisons afterwards and wrote up a report about how sinister gang elements from MS-13 snuck in, released all the prisoners, and replaced them with picked over skeletons
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Epic High Five posted:not even underwater lol what if they are right and ms-13 are the plucky freedom fighters we need in these trying times
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Epic High Five posted:not even underwater lol Is this real or a joke
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ikanreed posted:Is this real or a joke Welcome
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ikanreed posted:Is this real or a joke you can tell it's not real because in reality the prison just sent a request to a local judge that they have a contract to fill empty beds in their facility with prisoners and to find a reason to send the next thousand or so people to jail for whatever they're in court for
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I think a lot of people have no idea just how insanely dystopian the american prison system really is. "well we left all the prisoners to die, but we gotta keep profits up so arrest more people for us!" is just the tip of the iceberg
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Al! posted:id like to think having their lives destroyed by the fire would awaken the chuds to the reality of climate change and a new understanding that the refugees at the southern border are just like them but of course the camps will be hotbeds of right wing radicalization why would people who suddenly lost everything discover compassion
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Feranon posted:yeah there's at least a thousand people "unaccounted for" after paradise burned down and there's a good chance that most of those folks are dead but they won't officially be categorized as such until they find the remains....which there aren't any of Oh, c'mon, don't be dramatic skeletons don't last very long in salt water, a year at most
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Luneshot posted:I think a lot of people have no idea just how insanely dystopian the american prison system really is. "well we left all the prisoners to die, but we gotta keep profits up so arrest more people for us!" is just the tip of the iceberg Pennsylvania had a minor scandal where the private juvenile prison companies were outright bribing a judge a set fee for every child he sentenced to their jails. Luckily we caught the bad apple, and the rest of the bunch is unspoiled!
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Luneshot posted:I think a lot of people have no idea just how insanely dystopian the american prison system really is. "well we left all the prisoners to die, but we gotta keep profits up so arrest more people for us!" is just the tip of the iceberg it's this, especially in Louisiana google "Palantir" for a good look into tech hell dystopia
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SKULL.GIF posted:why would people who suddenly lost everything discover compassion People?sure! Chuds? Ehh * hand eiggle5*
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Al! posted:id like to think having their lives destroyed by the fire would awaken the chuds to the reality of climate change and a new understanding that the refugees at the southern border are just like them but of course the camps will be hotbeds of right wing radicalization funny joke
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Big Dick Cheney posted:Is it possible that if someone dies in this forest fire, they just vaporize with no forensic evidence left? Those fires get pretty hot. crematorium ovens operate a few hundred degrees hotter than a forest fire at ground level and even they have chunks of bone left over
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The Muppets On PCP posted:crematorium ovens operate a few hundred degrees hotter than a forest fire at ground level and even they have chunks of bone left over but good luck finding an errant phalange bone in a charred hellscape
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Posted on Reddit/Facebook Y'all, I don't even know how to begin to describe the devastation here. (Updated 11/15 @ 7:15 pm) 631 people still missing. 63 confirmed dead. 8,756 residences confirmed destroyed. Hundreds of animals confirmed dead. Thousands still missing. Thousands being cared for in evacuation shelters. It's not just Paradise that has been effected -- even though they are getting the most media coverage. The foothills of the Sierras are filled with little and medium size towns where tens of thousands of people live. Chico is a city of approximately 100,000 people. We were facing a housing crisis previous to the fire with a less than 1% vacancy rate and pretty much ZERO affordable housing. There are going to be tens of thousands of people who have lots their homes and can't go back home because of environmental toxins. We have 1,000 people LIVING in the Walmart parking lot right now because so many of our evacuation shelters are full. The shelters (official and not) are being hit by the norovirus which is contagious and causes vomiting and diarrhea. The air is toxic -- everyone is wearing N95 masks and still we having burning lungs and eyes. It looks like a zombie apocalypse because of the smoke blotting out the sun and haze for days and miles. The sun has been blocked for so long so now it's getting much colder than it typically is -- at night it's down in the 30s and we have people camping in tents at Walmart. The National Guard is here. FEMA arrived yesterday. FEMA has rented out the old Sears to set up base. I heard someone was renting out Toys R Us so we could convert it to a shelter. We already have struggled to keep people safe and warm over the winter months before the fire, I literally have no idea how we're going to do it now. Schools have been cancelled all week and will be cancelled again next week (in conjunction with the holiday break). I can't imagine coming back to school on the 26th and acting like everything is normal. So much chaos and displacement. So much trauma. How can I expect anything of students who are dealing with so much? We have friends who drove through flames and only narrowly escaped with their lives. We have many people who jumped out of their cars and RAN down the mountain because that was the better option than sitting and waiting to be engulfed in flames in their cars. What are we going to do with everyone and everything displaced? Chico literally cannot absorb everyone. How can we heal from this massive, wide-scale trauma? I have literally no ability to imagine normalcy. Everyone is talking about "rebuilding" and being "Butte Strong" but as a public health professional who has traveled extensively around the developing world I just can't see it happening. I know we'll continue to move forward because that's how time and life works, but I can't imagine recovery. It's too much. We have the nation's attention right now, but how long will that last? Not long enough I already know. The rest of the world is marching on and we are stuck in this horror show. I'm sorry this is verbal word vomit -- but I just need people outside of Butte County to understand. I keep hearing all these positive messages and how can we help and I just don't know what to say. Yes, people are being amazing right now and our community is helping however we can, but compassion fatigue will set in. REGULAR fatigue will set in. The trauma and devastation will grow. I just don't know how we are going to recover from this. Please don't offer platitudes. I can't handle them right now. If you don't like this message then keep scrolling. Or delete me. I don't want any loving positive Polly messages right now. This is devastation like you cannot imagine if you aren't here, and if you are here you are doing whatever you can to hold on and I understand. I just needed to get this out. I haven't felt this hopeless in a long time. I don't have solutions, I don't have things to hang onto for better days. This is awful and terrible and I just don't know what to do. I don't need anything. Our family has everything we need. We're doing all the self-care possible. We're carrying on with life, volunteering our time and resources, but none of this is ok. Just know that.
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it's truly tragic that a few thousand americans are forced to live the way that the american war machine has forced millions to live across the globe
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the bitcoin of weed posted:too bad FEMA does not actually exist tbf i don't know what you can do to fix "everything you have known for your entire life including your career and your home and possibly your friends and relatives have burned up overnight and there's nothing to ever go back to because the economy wasn't doing great in the first place and you'll never rebuild"
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Al! posted:tbf i don't know what you can do to fix "everything you have known for your entire life including your career and your home and possibly your friends and relatives have burned up overnight and there's nothing to ever go back to because the economy wasn't doing great in the first place and you'll never rebuild" eat the rich??? 
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Norovirus is no minor thing. Between potential sky-high fevers, dehydration, and the ease of transmission where there’s inadequate sanitation, those poor refugees could be in for a world of hurt.
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Al! posted:tbf i don't know what you can do to fix "everything you have known for your entire life including your career and your home and possibly your friends and relatives have burned up overnight and there's nothing to ever go back to because the economy wasn't doing great in the first place and you'll never rebuild" It would be cool if the CA govt used some of the $15b in our ironically named "Rainy Day Fund" to build 10,000 units of housing by Chico or whatever, but in the alternative I imagine that private charities and FEMA will work together to at least get them enough coffins.
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Al! posted:tbf i don't know what you can do to fix "everything you have known for your entire life including your career and your home and possibly your friends and relatives have burned up overnight and there's nothing to ever go back to because the economy wasn't doing great in the first place and you'll never rebuild" maybe put up some food and shelter for the people making GBS threads all over each other in a walmart parking lot at the very least. long term, maybe help with permanent resettlement? hard to say
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Vox Nihili posted:It would be cool if the CA govt used some of the $15b in our ironically named "Rainy Day Fund" to build 10,000 units of housing by Chico or whatever, but in the alternative I imagine that private charities and FEMA will work together to at least get them enough coffins. I mean an entire day of rain would be a disaster in a lot of California
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Vox Nihili posted:It would be cool if the CA govt used some of the $15b in our ironically named "Rainy Day Fund" to build 10,000 units of housing by Chico or whatever, but in the alternative I imagine that private charities and FEMA will work together to at least get them enough coffins.
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the bitcoin of weed posted:maybe put up some food and shelter for the people making GBS threads all over each other in a walmart parking lot at the very least. long term, maybe help with permanent resettlement? hard to say that's not FEMAs job, their job is to funnel money to private contractors to pretend to do those things
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jBrereton posted:Maybe it could pay for them to move to a different state less wracked by wildfires + in need of more democrat voters just a thought here it wasn't democrat voters that got displaced
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Vox Nihili posted:It would be cool if the CA govt used some of the $15b in our ironically named "Rainy Day Fund" to build 10,000 units of housing by Chico or whatever, but in the alternative I imagine that private charities and FEMA will work together to at least get them enough coffins. Hell yeah they only need to live in tents for a year until their house is built then it can get burned down again a few years later when the chaparral does its thing.
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