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CPL593H posted:I knew Tom Cruise was a nut but I didn't know he was also a pile of trash. He's been a scientologist for decades.
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Nov 20, 2018 06:08
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I Before E posted:I for one welcome our robot top overlords I mean yes same just not that one
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Nov 20, 2018 06:17
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:I mean yes same just not that one He's got that weird Dane Dehaan energy that really does it for me
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Nov 20, 2018 06:21
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It's been heavily rumored that Travolta was trying to leave the church after his son passed away. It was clear his son had autism and Scientology forbids psychiatric medications (man I wonder why this is) so his son never received the care he was supposed to. The rumor is he couldn't leave because the church has the audio of him talking about his homosexuality during the auditing process. Apparently Travolta is a nice dude, though incredibly odd. Also the whole masseuse harassment scandal...
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Nov 20, 2018 06:27
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I do legit wonder how much of Cruise being horrible is him being completely brainwashed by a horrible cult with weird lovely beliefs. Like out of all the famous Scientologists, Cruise always seemed in the deepest.
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Nov 20, 2018 06:31
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CPL593H posted:This is a running theme with Spielberg. Very much so and I've talked about it quite a bit. It's just that Catch Me If You Can is Spielberg wearing his father abandonment issues right on his sleeve, far moreso than probably any of his other movies outside of maybe Jurassic Park or Close Encounters, so ... no poo poo. You seem oddly antagonistic today / tonight. axelblaze posted:I do legit wonder how much of Cruise being horrible is him being completely brainwashed by a horrible cult with weird lovely beliefs. Like out of all the famous Scientologists, Cruise always seemed in the deepest. If Katie Holmes is to be believed, and I don't think there's any reason to not believe her, Cruise is legitimately nuts and has fully bought into Xenu and all that poo poo.
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Nov 20, 2018 06:33
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CPL channel your anger into the Star Wars thread
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Nov 20, 2018 06:35
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Timby posted:Very much so and I've talked about it quite a bit. It's just that Catch Me If You Can is Spielberg wearing his father abandonment issues right on his sleeve, far moreso than probably any of his other movies outside of maybe Jurassic Park or Close Encounters, so ... no poo poo. You seem oddly antagonistic today / tonight. Yeah but that might be a result of being in for decades and having his brain loving warped by a cult that was at his Beck and call
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Nov 20, 2018 07:08
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Yeah but that might be a result of being in for decades and having his brain loving warped by a cult that was at his Beck and call Yeah, I have a hard time being angry at Tom Cruise as an individual in the same way I have a hard time being angry at Jake Paul as an individual, the systems and structures that created them have harmed so many other people that it just seems useless to blame the individual instead of that system which has caused so much more pain. I don't blame my nose when I have a cold, right?
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Nov 20, 2018 07:12
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sponges posted:Ed Asner is still alive I'm reading that in this tone in the middle of Ezra Miller/Adventure Time chat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QyY4jei6rM
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Nov 20, 2018 07:12
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If Bronson Pinchot's Random Roles is the truth, Tom Cruise was a piece of poo poo before Scientology. Also Booger recently gave an interview where he mentioned Cruise's religious hypocrisy while filming Risky Business.
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Nov 20, 2018 07:36
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James Woods Fan posted:It's been heavily rumored that Travolta was trying to leave the church after his son passed away. It was clear his son had autism and Scientology forbids psychiatric medications (man I wonder why this is) so his son never received the care he was supposed to. The rumor is he couldn't leave because the church has the audio of him talking about his homosexuality during the auditing process. Apparently Travolta is a nice dude, though incredibly odd. Also the whole masseuse harassment scandal... So whats stopping him now that his son is dead? It would hardly be shocking to anyone if they outed him and its not like anyone (esp in hollywood) would give a poo poo anyway. He's 64 its not exactly going to destroy his career. Seems more like he'd rather live the B-team celebrity scientologist life than not.
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Nov 20, 2018 07:48
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CelticPredator posted:gently caress Adventure Time. Adventure Time was good at some point as opposed to Invader Zim which sucked from the get
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Nov 20, 2018 07:50
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Broke: Adventure Time Joke: Regular Show Woke: Xavier Renegade Angel
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Nov 20, 2018 07:53
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James Woods Fan posted:It's been heavily rumored that Travolta was trying to leave the church after his son passed away. It was clear his son had autism and Scientology forbids psychiatric medications (man I wonder why this is) so his son never received the care he was supposed to. The rumor is he couldn't leave because the church has the audio of him talking about his homosexuality during the auditing process. Apparently Travolta is a nice dude, though incredibly odd. Also the whole masseuse harassment scandal... I think it was the untreated seizure disorder rather than the autism that killed the kid
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Nov 20, 2018 07:53
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sponges posted:Adventure Time was good at some point as opposed to Invader Zim which sucked from the get Adventure Time can choke on em. My guts I mean.
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Nov 20, 2018 08:00
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Broke brain: Rick and Morty Woke brain: 12 oz Mouse
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Nov 20, 2018 08:11
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precision posted:The dude that plays aquaman is pretty fun it'll probably be better than justice League at least No he's not. He's just attractive. He's not a good enough actor to be "fun". People project "fun bro" onto him because he looks the part, but I've never gotten that out of any of his performances.
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Nov 20, 2018 08:14
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The Peccadillo posted:I think it was the untreated seizure disorder rather than the autism that killed the kid You are correct.
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Nov 20, 2018 08:56
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precision posted:I mean, he's a high ranking Scientologist so of course he is I kind of figured they were less of a cult and more of a tax shelter or some kind of scam like that. James Woods Fan posted:It's been heavily rumored that Travolta was trying to leave the church after his son passed away. It was clear his son had autism and Scientology forbids psychiatric medications (man I wonder why this is) so his son never received the care he was supposed to. The rumor is he couldn't leave because the church has the audio of him talking about his homosexuality during the auditing process. Apparently Travolta is a nice dude, though incredibly odd. Also the whole masseuse harassment scandal... If they're just blackmailing him with proof that he's gay he should just come out. No one's really going to give a poo poo and it's not 1950, he'll still get work and then they won't have anything to hold over him. Timby posted:Very much so and I've talked about it quite a bit. It's just that Catch Me If You Can is Spielberg wearing his father abandonment issues right on his sleeve, far moreso than probably any of his other movies outside of maybe Jurassic Park or Close Encounters, so ... no poo poo. You seem oddly antagonistic today / tonight. I wasn't really implying anything by that, I was just throwing it out there because it gets talked about a lot in reference to his movies. CelticPredator posted:CPL channel your anger into the Star Wars thread That would be an exercise in masochism if there ever was one. BENGHAZI 2 posted:Yeah but that might be a result of being in for decades and having his brain loving warped by a cult that was at his Beck and call I see what you did there.
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Nov 20, 2018 09:34
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Just got a youtube ad for sperm donation with the campaign title "get a grip"
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Nov 20, 2018 09:39
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The Peccadillo posted:Just got a youtube ad for sperm donation with the campaign title "get a grip" I once got a Facebook ad that used some combination of the words "Bangkok" and "gay cruise" that was definitely not done by mistake.
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Nov 20, 2018 09:47
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Lurdiak posted:No he's not. He's just attractive. He's not a good enough actor to be "fun". People project "fun bro" onto him because he looks the part, but I've never gotten that out of any of his performances. Yeah I mean there's a reason his best performance involves subtitles. He's no The Rock, let alone Ahnuld. Also bonus movie fact: Carl Weathers is in Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
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Nov 20, 2018 09:53
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porfiria posted:Yeah I mean there's a reason his best performance involves subtitles. He's no The Rock, let alone Ahnuld. Denzel is in Death Wish.
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Nov 20, 2018 10:32
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Adventure Time was legit great in its early seasons, then it somehow became a 14 year old's LiveJournal fan fiction of Adventure Time.James Woods Fan posted:It's been heavily rumored that Travolta was trying to leave the church after his son passed away. It was clear his son had autism and Scientology forbids psychiatric medications (man I wonder why this is) so his son never received the care he was supposed to. The rumor is he couldn't leave because the church has the audio of him talking about his homosexuality during the auditing process. Apparently Travolta is a nice dude, though incredibly odd. Also the whole masseuse harassment scandal... Yeah, not exactly sympathetic to the guy if he chose the church over his son's life.
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Nov 20, 2018 12:07
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I remember talking to my ex about it when it happened, with her saying "he killed his son by withholding meds because of his cult", but I was like ... You don't know that, you have an untreated seizure disorder too and fall down in the bathroom all the goddamn time, and that doesn't have anything to do with scientology or having a bad dad
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Nov 20, 2018 12:14
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CelticPredator posted:Adventure Time can choke on em. You dumb
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Nov 20, 2018 12:22
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You’re a gently caress
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Nov 20, 2018 12:44
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One of these days someone’s gonna shoot a satellite dish somewhere and Tom Cruise is gonna age 60 years in a minute.
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Nov 20, 2018 12:52
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Lurdiak posted:No he's not. He's just attractive. He's not a good enough actor to be "fun". People project "fun bro" onto him because he looks the part, but I've never gotten that out of any of his performances. He's excellent in The Bad Batch. That movie just wouldn't work as well without him. banned from Starbucks posted:So whats stopping him now that his son is dead? It would hardly be shocking to anyone if they outed him and its not like anyone (esp in hollywood) would give a poo poo anyway. He's 64 its not exactly going to destroy his career. Seems more like he'd rather live the B-team celebrity scientologist life than not. feedmyleg posted:Yeah, not exactly sympathetic to the guy if he chose the church over his son's life. You don't just "leave" Scientology. It's not like how you can just stop going to your temple or stop being Catholic. The whole "sign up" process has you relive trauma repeatedly while being recorded. They systematically brainwash and break you while making notes of everything. They have powerful lawyers with infinite pockets and time. Don't think give out special web browsers that censor the news and poo poo? They have a network of spies, stalkers and harrassers to bother anyone that tries to leave or messes with members. The only way to leave 'religious' organizations like Scientology and the Church of the Latter Day Saints is to basically die. I dunno how folks like Leah Ramini manage it.
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Nov 20, 2018 13:40
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I'm only basing this on Nathan Rabin's review of her book but I think Leah Ramini basically got out by willingly revealing anything Scientology had on her and then just fighting them at every turn when they tried other techniques. She has the money to ward off their bullshit and she's not willing to be quiet about any of it so I think these days they're mainly reactive to her
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Nov 20, 2018 13:49
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axelblaze posted:I'm only basing this on Nathan Rabin's review of her book but I think Leah Ramini basically got out by willingly revealing anything Scientology had on her and then just fighting them at every turn when they tried other techniques. She has the money to ward off their bullshit and she's not willing to be quiet about any of it so I think these days they're mainly reactive to her Yeah, that seems to be the only way to do it, which sounds exhausting. I remember Harris Wittles talking about Scientology. His girlfriend was deep in the church of scientology, and he was struggling with heroin addiction. He went to their rehab center, which he said was beautiful and nice, and everyone he met was just the nicest person and supportive. He described it like the weird off-putting perfection of The Stepford Wives. He didn't follow through after his first meeting, and the church, he assumes, made her cut all contact with him after they creeped him out. He sought rehab somewhere else, and, well, relapsed and died. The point is, like many other religions and organizations, at first everything seems great and beautiful and perfect, like the religion worked for those people. Once you're in, they hook you, and the price to get out is either 1) die, or 2) exist in the public eye as a whistleblower, meanwhile everyone you love and care for--friends and family and loved ones--in the church are completely removed from your life. S'hosed up.
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Nov 20, 2018 13:56
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Franchescanado posted:The only way to leave 'religious' organizations like Scientology and the Church of the Latter Day Saints is to basically die. I dunno how folks like Leah Ramini manage it. I think she replaced it with Catholicism.
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Nov 20, 2018 14:07
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Wheat Loaf posted:I think she replaced it with Catholicism. Whoosh
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Nov 20, 2018 14:39
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Also love the people who don't understand how abuse warps your brain on a small scale let alone a big one like a cult with millions of dollars getting indignant about behavior caused by being in that cult
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Nov 20, 2018 14:41
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Franchescanado posted:He's excellent in The Bad Batch. That movie just wouldn't work as well without him. He's in a decent little wintry thriller called Braven where he's a logger stuck in a cabin in the woods fending off Garret Dillahunt and his goons. Stephen Lang plays his dad. It was a good time.
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Nov 20, 2018 14:43
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Wheat Loaf posted:I think she replaced it with Catholicism. Tom Cruise, on phone with the Vatican: " listen, you don't wanna mess with this. We killed a man who . ." The Pope: "A man, like singular? Lol uh oh, watch out for these guys!"
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Nov 20, 2018 14:54
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The other thing with Scientology is it's like specifically made to appeal to people with mental illness. Like one of it's central tenants is that all mental illness and bad feeling are caused by alien ghosts. To someone that wants to think they are in full control of themselves, it makes you feel way better if you can convince yourself that all your problems are being caused by an single external force rather than being forced to accept there's some parts of you that are not working correctly and you need help. From everything I know about Cruise (which admittedly still isn't that much), you can see why this whole thing would just dig itself completely into his particular brain.
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Nov 20, 2018 15:01
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James Woods Fan posted:I was listening to Filter (shut up) and I was wracking my brain trying to remember who the lead singer was brothers with. T1000? Really? Man I was way off. I thought it was the douche from Sugar Ray or something. Fun fact, the guitar riff from Hey Man Nice Shot was borrowed from the superior Ungod by Stabbing Westward, because the same guitarist played for both bands at the time. Skwirl posted:Drunk driving is different from being drunk. and I'll amend my rules to put "not be racist" in between 1 and 2. Though it's mystifying to me that Mel Gibson is basically blackballed from the industry and Woody Allen is still making movies. Hacksaw Ridge was nominated for multiple academy awards and won 2, and he starred in the family comedy Daddy’s Home 2. BENGHAZI 2 posted:Yeah but that might be a result of being in for decades and having his brain loving warped by a cult that was at his Beck and call lol banned from Starbucks posted:So whats stopping him now that his son is dead? It would hardly be shocking to anyone if they outed him and its not like anyone (esp in hollywood) would give a poo poo anyway. He's 64 its not exactly going to destroy his career. Seems more like he'd rather live the B-team celebrity scientologist life than not. He’s been in an anti-gay cult for decades, it’s extremely difficult to overcome that amount of brainwashing and self-hatred. porfiria posted:Also bonus movie fact: Carl Weathers is in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Lance Henriksen is also in Close Encounters.
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Also the church is real big on cutting off contact with anyone who leaves Imahine just completely losing large parts of your support network over night, it's loving terrifying
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