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twoday posted:https://twitter.com/eha_news/status/1064847888046596097?s=20 They're doubling down and it owns https://www.thenational.scot/news/17235220.spanish-foreign-minister-declares-an-independent-scotland-would-be-welcome-in-eu/
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Coohoolin posted:They're doubling down and it owns Oh drat. Spain has been fierce in it's opposition of recognizing regions breaking away to become nations due to Catalonia's secessionist movement. Turning around from their 2014 stance and going "yeah we'll let Scotland in" sure is unexpected. OhFunny has issued a correction as of 18:38 on Nov 20, 2018 |
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Coohoolin posted:They're doubling down and it owns Looking forward to the reconstruction of Hadrian's wall
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it’s not unexpected at all and the idea that an independent Scotland could eventually gain entry to the EU is not controversial either now or in 2014. How good an idea that would be will depend entirely on the outcome of the uk/Eu trade deal talks.
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Well before Spain was going to veto it because they didn't want to encourage independence movements
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oliwan posted:lol @ the guardian This O'Hara oval office just loving wrote a study for the Tony Blair Institute which just lol at taking that twat's blood money.
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twoday posted:Well before Spain was going to veto it because they didn't want to encourage independence movements Yeah I was going to say it is fairly unexpected actually because due to the whole Catalonia situation they have been fairly hardline about their feelings on the matters of regions breaking away then joining the EU. If Scotland can do it then it undermines a lot of their rationale for their stance on Catalonia.
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twoday posted:Well before Spain was going to veto it because they didn't want to encourage independence movements Spain didn’t say they would veto an independent scotland’s attempts to join the Eu. Spain did say an independent Scotland would have to apply to join rather than be allowed continual membership, but that’s also what the EU said.
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They did make that threat but it was dropped later so you're both right? It's not like they flipped to 'we support it' though their stance is still opposed to any succession movements in general. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...n-a7662531.html 2017 posted:Spain has long opposed the breakup of the UK as it fears this would give a boost to separatists in Catalonia, who have been putting pressure on the conservative government of Mariano Rajoy for an independent state.
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COMRADES posted:Yeah I was going to say it is fairly unexpected actually because due to the whole Catalonia situation they have been fairly hardline about their feelings on the matters of regions breaking away then joining the EU. If Scotland can do it then it undermines a lot of their rationale for their stance on Catalonia. If Scotland becomes independent, it'll be because the SNP persuades Westminster to sanction another referendum on independence. Amicable divorce is very different from unilateral secession, which is what Catalan nationalists have been aiming for.
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forkboy84 posted:This O'Hara oval office just loving wrote a study for the Tony Blair Institute which just lol at taking that twat's blood money. his treachery has disgraced us
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That's why Spain has softened their stance sure but they were very much opposed in 2014 and still aren't exactly keen on the idea is all. Anyway I feel like Catalans would love an amicable divorce if Spain would let them have it but that's another thread I suppose.
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Spain can gently caress off their moaning about gibraltar when they gave those 2 in morocco back to morocco
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Pissflaps posted:Spain didn’t say they would veto an independent scotland’s attempts to join the Eu. Scotland only got their referendum because Cameron knew the wind was blowing towards "No". We only got an EU referendum because he thought he could get away with it a second time. I live in Barcelona and while I'm fairly neutral when it comes to whether Catalonia should be independent or not, I will say that after two years the ultra-pro-independence-everyone-else-is-a-fascist lot really get on my nerves. And their politicians are as retarded as ours. Captain Splendid has issued a correction as of 19:05 on Nov 20, 2018 |
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Also Spain feels more comfortable playing realpolitik with secessionist movements now that they know everyone will politely not notice them crushing the Catalans
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Looking like it's the curtains for Harry Leslie Smith  https://twitter.com/Harryslaststand/status/1064960820851879936
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How can anyone be this dumb and still appear to be a functioning adult. Is her carer just out of the frame
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OhFunny posted:What were the amendments? They passed the SNP's as well. https://twitter.com/BBCParliament/status/1064958853027168256 That's about the most information I can find
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logikv9 posted:the UK makes me feel good about myself how low must your self-esteem be for this steaming shitpile of a country make you feel good?
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Jose posted:Spain can gently caress off their moaning about gibraltar when they gave those 2 in morocco back to morocco Posting the Mail Online below the line comments now?
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:how low must your self-esteem be for this steaming shitpile of a country make you feel good? it makes me feel good knowing that my dead gay country is somehow being outdone when it comes to killing itself
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COMRADES posted:Yes, a market crash has never caused an economic recession. I mean it's not suddenly it is way harder to get credit for regular people or anything when that happens. No effects at all! Definitely no mass layoffs ever! post hoc ergo propter hoc you said the economy crashed because stocks crashed, THIS IS FALSE edit also DJI is -2% over 6 months, that by definition is a recession for those stocks, and nothing happened to the real economy because of that https://www.google.com/search?q=dow+jones+6+months&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b edit again because I checked and you also lied about the FTSE lmao, over 10% down over 6 months Goa Tse-tung has issued a correction as of 13:44 on Nov 21, 2018 |
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Goa Tse-tung posted:post hoc ergo propter hoc OK you obviously don't know the difference between a crash, a recession, or a correction then. How did I "lie" about FTSE?   Looks like it was more or less relatively flat all year to me, not really going anywhere. Volatile, sure, but could say that about any market this last year. Call me when you're hitting the circuit breakers daily and people are doing bank runs. COMRADES has issued a correction as of 17:06 on Nov 21, 2018 |
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Goa Tse-tung posted:you said the economy crashed because stocks crashed, THIS IS FALSE I really don't get why this is controversial. If a stock price is crashing the investors will demand action and typically the first thing that happens is layoffs and pay freezes for the workers. The next thing that happens is cut backs on investments and shuttering plans for new expansions which people were relying on for jobs, along with wage and benefit cuts. You get that right? It's basic. In fact, stock crashes effect middle class and poor people the most. You really think it only matters to the rich? They just buy the dip and hold. Sometimes if the loss is big enough they even get it covered by your tax dollars; another way it affects ordinary people. If your government gives X pounds sterling to a bank as a bailout then that directly represents money that can't be spent on public goods and services. Not to mention the effect it has on retired people on a fixed income mostly generated from retirement savings. If the Tories intentionally gently caress the FTSE as a "see shoulda voted with us" and you think that will have 0% effect on anyone working for those companies or regular people on the street then you're just wrong. e: Like you get how bank runs during the Great Depression happened, right? quote:The United States stock market crash in 1929 left the public susceptible to rumors of an impending financial crisis. There was a decrease in investment and consumer expenditure, which led to increased unemployment and decline in industrial production. A wave of banking panics worsened the situation, with anxious depositors rushing to withdraw their bank deposits. The simultaneous withdrawals forced banks to liquidate loans and sell their assets to meet the withdrawals. *Meaning they had nothing to lend either, if they didn't just go bankrupt outright, so sucks for if you need credit which 99% of the modern economy runs on. Super heavy galactic stuff, here. COMRADES has issued a correction as of 17:13 on Nov 21, 2018 |
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